bigsnake49 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) According to Fiercewirelees Dish is looking to hire a CMO first to start up the wireless part of the business. http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/report-dish-looking-hire-cmo-help-jumpstart-wireless-push/2015-05-14 The fact that they are hiring a CMO first means that they will probably be an MVNO to either Sprint or T-Mobile. Probably lease Dish's spectrum in exchange. Sprint makes sense because of the available 2.5 GHz spectrum. If Dish markets video as the selling point of their service, then they will need vast amounts of spectrum and Sprint has plenty. On the other hand, Sprint does not really need Dish's spectrum. They could use Dish's spectrum near their PCS Block G. T-mobile makes sense because they need Dish's spectrum a lot more than Sprint, so it will cost Dish a lot less. I don't think Tobile's network currently can accommodate Dish's demands. Maybe they can start by being an MVNO of Sprint and then choose either or both providers to host their spectrum. Edited May 14, 2015 by bigsnake49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilotimz Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 According to Fiercewirelees Dish is looking to hire a CMO first to start up the wireless part of the business. http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/report-dish-looking-hire-cmo-help-jumpstart-wireless-push/2015-05-14 The fact that they are hiring a CMO first means that they will probably be an MVNO to either Sprint or T-Mobile. Probably lease Dish's spectrum in exchange. Sprint makes sense because of the available 2.5 GHz spectrum. If Dish markets video as the selling point of their service, then they will need vast amounts of spectrum and Sprint has plenty. On the other hand, Sprint does not really need Dish's spectrum. They could use Dish's spectrum near their PCS Block G. T-mobile makes sense because they need Dish's spectrum a lot more than Sprint, so it will cost Dish a lot less. I don't think Tobile's network currently can accommodate Dish's demands. Maybe they can start by being an MVNO of Sprint and then choose either or both providers to host their spectrum. Att. Lots of behind the scenes negotiations between Att and dish / ergen. Sent from my Nexus 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdk Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I guess they are realizing spectrum speculation and squatting is not a great model. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) Att. Lots of behind the scenes negotiations between Att and dish / ergen. Sent from my Nexus 5 Wow, so all the T-Mobile love is just posturing? Are you talking about a spectrum sale? Hosting? How will it play in terms of the ATT/Directv merger? Coopetition? Edited May 14, 2015 by bigsnake49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 What is a CMO? Charlie's malevolence officer? AJ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilotimz Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Wow, so all the T-Mobile love is just posturing? Are you talking about a spectrum sale? Hosting? How will it play in terms of the ATT/Directv merger? Coopetition?Spectrum sale and hosting. Specifically my area and surrounding areas and no doubt elsewhere they're targeting pcs H block and adjacent holdings. Word is that they'll utilize it for wireless to the home service using 4x4 mimo equipment or similar technologies via macro sites and small cell pico sites feeding from the neighborhood uverse fiber to the node cabinets which are spaced in a manner that no subscriber can't be fed less than 24 Mbps on copper (so a 3-4000' or so from each other at max). No idea on how the hell Att is going to pay the billions to do it along with their other domestic and international adventures. Sent from my Nexus 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 What is a CMO? I was wondering that very thing. The article just starts using the acronym without ever defining it for those of us who aren't corporate executives. - Trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 What is a CMO? Charlie's malevolence officer? AJ Chief Marketing Officer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 Spectrum sale and hosting. Specifically my area and surrounding areas and no doubt elsewhere they're targeting pcs H block and adjacent holdings. Word is that they'll utilize it for wireless to the home service using 4x4 mimo equipment or similar technologies via macro sites and small cell pico sites feeding from the neighborhood uverse fiber to the node cabinets which are spaced in a manner that no subscriber can't be fed less than 24 Mbps on copper (so a 3-4000' or so from each other at max). No idea on how the hell Att is going to pay the billions to do it along with their other domestic and international adventures. Sent from my Nexus 5 It would make much more sense for Sprint to host the spectrum adjacent to PCS G (PCS H + 2000-2020MHz) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Chief Marketing Officer I know, hence why I was joking. But it seems that a CTO would be a better choice to "jump start" Dish's moribund, meandering wireless business. AJ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnys8913 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 oh this will be interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 I know, hence why I was joking. But it seems that a CTO would be a better choice to "jump start" Dish's moribund, meandering wireless business. AJ It will be interesting to see what ends up happening since Dish has flirted around with Sprint, T-mobile and now ATT. Verizon must feel left out ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercurial1 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Chief Marketing OfficerI have also seen the acronym to be chief mobility officer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arysyn Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I wrote a topic post here this morning about the Dish possibilities, among others : http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/6990-googlesprint-and-a-little-bit-of-disht-mobile/ I'm hoping Dish will purchase T-Mobile, or at least sell their spectrum to T-Mobile, particularly here in Chicago, since T-Mobile needs it in order to bring up their AWS LTE, at least sell maybe a 5x5 portion of AWS spectrum to T-Mobile here in their Chicago market, so T-Mobile, which already is bringing AWS LTE here to 15x15 in July, with this added spectrum could bring it up to 20x20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dean Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 No idea on how the hell Att is going to pay the billions to do it along with their other domestic and international adventures. Look at it this way, we can see the DeathStar implode (to quote Oasis) like "Champagne Supernova in the Sky"... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou99/maximus1987 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I wrote a topic post here this morning about the Dish possibilities, among others : http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/6990-googlesprint-and-a-little-bit-of-disht-mobile/ I'm hoping Dish will purchase T-Mobile, or at least sell their spectrum to T-Mobile, particularly here in Chicago, since T-Mobile needs it in order to bring up their AWS LTE, at least sell maybe a 5x5 portion of AWS spectrum to T-Mobile here in their Chicago market, so T-Mobile, which already is bringing AWS LTE here to 15x15 in July, with this added spectrum could bring it up to 20x20. Aws3 is not compatible with current phones. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou99/maximus1987 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Att. Lots of behind the scenes negotiations between Att and dish / ergen. Sent from my Nexus 5 Att has 2, AWS, 5, 12/17, 29, 30 for lte. Would they add another band for macro network? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou99/maximus1987 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 It would make much more sense for Sprint to host the spectrum adjacent to PCS G (PCS H + 2000-2020MHz)Unless their antennas can handle it, It's irrelevant how close to G block those freqs are. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmachine Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Look at it this way, we can see the DeathStar implode (to quote Oasis) like "Champagne Supernova in the Sky"... AT&T probably sees it more like this: Now witness the fire power of this fully-armed and operational battle station! But of course we all know that didn't work out as expected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dean Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 AT&T probably sees it more like this: Now witness the fire power of this fully-armed and operational battle station! But of course we all know that didn't work out as expected. Yea... AJ and Robert flying their X-Wing Fighters, skimming the surface of the start at light speed. They know where to hit them... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Yea... AJ and Robert flying their X-Wing Fighters, skimming the surface of the start at light speed. They know where to hit them... That is one scary "Star Wars" character. I wonder what it looks like underneath its mask... AJ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arysyn Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Aws3 is not compatible with current phones. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk So the spectrum sold at the auction was spectrum that doesn't work for currently available devices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou99/maximus1987 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 So the spectrum sold at the auction was spectrum that doesn't work for currently available devices?Yes Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 So the spectrum sold at the auction was spectrum that doesn't work for currently available devices? Uh, yeah. But if you did not know that, you are qualified to run a T-Mobile news web site. AJ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arysyn Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Uh, yeah. But if you did not know that, you are qualified to run a T-Mobile news web site. AJ I read so many wireless websites that have conflicting information where some said it did and some said it did not. I was just meaning to verify it here on S4GRU. Plus, it had been awhile since I read about the technical specifics and with everything ongoing in my life, including my pain management situation, I wasn't really thinking about the inner working of AWS3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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