newboyx Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 http://investor.cincinnatibell.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=111332&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1916140&highlight Verizon gobbles up another. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawvega Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Just their spectrum licenses, but regardless I'm sure the FCC and justice department will be A-OK with this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioc21 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 http://investor.cincinnatibell.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=111332&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1916140&highlight Verizon gobbles up another. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk Just their spectrum licenses, but regardless I'm sure the FCC and justice department will be A-OK with this. More accurate to say that Cincinnati Bell is selling its wireless operations to Verizon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubbiefan82 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Big surprise verizon doesn't want any part of there landline business lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Kudo Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 More accurate to say that Cincinnati Bell is selling its wireless operations to Verizon. It's not selling the wireless operations. It'll get a lease back on the spectrum and shut down the network before handing control of the licenses back to Verizon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas L. Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ugh this is so annoying there's not going to be anyone left that the duopoly hasn't eaten. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duddys31 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I think it's crazy that Verizon and at&t can keep buying all these small carriers but sprint can't buy t mobile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Expect VZW to cut a side deal with T-Mobile for Cincinnati Bell's AWS spectrum. My analysis projects that VZW will swap Cincinnati Bell's AWS A block 20 MHz license for T-Mobile's AWS E block 10 MHz license. Then, T-Mobile can finally deploy band 4 LTE in Cincinnati. AJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericwalton Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Well, I'm not terribly upset by it. In fact, I'm praying Cincinnati Bell uses that money to build out actual FTTH service around here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supert0nes Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Maybe VZW will offload some of the 700 as well. T-Mobile? AT&T? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Maybe VZW will offload some of the 700 as well. T-Mobile? AT&T? Well, it was VZW that held the Lower 700 MHz A block and B block licenses in Cincinnati. Those have already been offloaded to T-Mobile and AT&T, respectively. The one CBW Lower 700 MHz license that I am aware of is the Lower 700 MHz A block in Dayton, not Cincinnati. And it appears to have major DT channel 51 issues. AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas L. Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Expect VZW to cut a side deal with T-Mobile for Cincinnati Bell's AWS spectrum. My analysis projects that VZW will swap Cincinnati Bell's AWS A block 20 MHz license for T-Mobile's AWS E block 10 MHz license. Then, T-Mobile can finally deploy band 4 LTE in Cincinnati. AJ Why weren't they able to do to it before? I thought it markets where that was the case they were refarming HSPA+ to PCS and doing 5x5 LTE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Why weren't they able to do to it before? I thought it markets where that was the case they were refarming HSPA+ to PCS and doing 5x5 LTE. T-Mobile has offered millions of devices over the years that do not support band 2 W-CDMA 1900. AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milan03 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 T-Mobile has made a very optimistic decision to deploy LTE to 250 million pops by the end of the year and 280+ mil by mid 2015, which includes deploying suburban/rural LTE on PCS (Band 2) spectrum in GSM only markets where they will completely skip HSPA+ (in some areas) at first, and go straight to GSM/LTE setup. That strategy allows them to deploy wider 10Mhz LTE channels, reuse some of their existing PCS infrastructure (panels), and make minimal required hardware and engineering adjustments in order to meet their goals. They will be required to install new BTS and RRUs, as well as AAV backhaul upgrades. To bring it back on topic, this means they could go with PCS LTE in Cincy market immediately, then add AWS once they sort out the spectrum issues. Not sure if that's actually happening in that market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supert0nes Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Well, it was VZW that held the Lower 700 MHz A block and B block licenses in Cincinnati. Those have already been offloaded to T-Mobile and AT&T, respectively. The one CBW Lower 700 MHz license that I am aware of is the Lower 700 MHz A block in Dayton, not Cincinnati. And it appears to have major DT channel 51 issues. AJ Thank you for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas L. Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 T-Mobile has made a very optimistic decision to deploy LTE to 250 million pops by the end of the year and 280+ mil by mid 2015, which includes deploying suburban/rural LTE on PCS (Band 2) spectrum in GSM only markets where they will completely skip HSPA+ (in some areas) at first, and go straight to GSM/LTE setup. That strategy allows them to deploy wider 10Mhz LTE channels, reuse some of their existing PCS infrastructure (panels), and make minimal required hardware and engineering adjustments in order to meet their goals. They will be required to install new BTS and RRUs, as well as AAV backhaul upgrades. To bring it back on topic, this means they could go with PCS LTE in Cincy market immediately, then add AWS once they sort out the spectrum issues. Not sure if that's actually happening in that market. A little off topic also, does this mean that the areas getting PCS LTE are those that are currently EDGE only? If a market already has HSPA+ it most likely won't get PCS LTE? Sent from my LG-LS980 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milan03 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 A little off topic also, does this mean that the areas getting PCS LTE are those that are currently EDGE only? If a market already has HSPA+ it most likely won't get PCS LTE? Sent from my LG-LS980 using Tapatalk Pretty much, but not all of them, according to Mike Sievert. EDGE markets will be getting either PCS or AWS LTE, and some of them 700a. Most markets with live HSPA+ have enough AWS for LTE overlay. Exception being Cincinnati. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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