pyroscott Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Again though if at the tower setting up lte & cdma on 800 and testing makes as much sense as doing it for lte on 1900 right now. Currently there are zero devices that support either so saying it makes little sense to do lte on 800 and test right now is no different than what they are doing on 1900 now already...unless like I said they still for some reason do not know if they will even put lte on 800 along side cdma1x too...or you took me saying that lte on 800 would mean no cdma1x if lte was there, which was not what i ment. I ment for both to be there from start. I see no reason why they when they would flip on live cdma 1x on 800 and NOT lte there too, less I'm missing something.... Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk I'm pretty sure what Robert is saying is that the contractors will install all the equipment that each tower is scheduled to have installed. Only certain towers will receive LTE on 800, and that has already been determined when they wrote up the Network Vision plan, but all the appropriate equipment for each tower will be installed. They will test everything and then go live with what the current handsets can support. Enhanced 1900 CDMA and 800 CDMA will go live. Depending on if there are LTE handsets released, the 1900 LTE will go live as well. The only variable will be if Sprint's LTE handsets can support LTE over 800. Until Sprint has a device that can access 800 LTE, it will be shut off. When they release a capable device, they will flip the switch at their headquarters and remotely activate the 800 LTE. Part of the Network Vision plan is to give Sprint enhanced control of the remote equipment from their headquarters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 All this doesn't mean anything unless Sprint moves iDEN to 900. Otherwise they can't run anything on 800 at all until decommissioning is complete. Except on for a few hundred sites fully outside of iDEN areas. Posted via Forum Runner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Slaughter Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) I'm pretty sure what Robert is saying is that the contractors will install all the equipment that each tower is scheduled to have installed. Only certain towers will receive LTE on 800, and that has already been determined when they wrote up the Network Vision plan, but all the appropriate equipment for each tower will be installed. They will test everything and then go live with what the current handsets can support. Enhanced 1900 CDMA and 800 CDMA will go live. Depending on if there are LTE handsets released, the 1900 LTE will go live as well. The only variable will be if Sprint's LTE handsets can support LTE over 800. Until Sprint has a device that can access 800 LTE, it will be shut off. When they release a capable device, they will flip the switch at their headquarters and remotely activate the 800 LTE. Part of the Network Vision plan is to give Sprint enhanced control of the remote equipment from their headquarters. there we go on same page then now. lol was totally lost for a bit there trying to make sense of it. lol Edit: Only thing id ? is why have it off, would LTE on 800 cost to have it on even if not being used really? Can't see them just flipping the switch and lighting up the US in one instance when the first 800MHz device is released is all...if so thats awesome and i wanna push that big red button to do so at that time. lol It kinda goes at the point of them transmitting LTE live right now on the fully finished NV sites yet there isn't a device out that can use it yet... Edited March 10, 2012 by Sgt. Slaughter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Slaughter Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 All this doesn't mean anything unless Sprint moves iDEN to 900. Otherwise they can't run anything on 800 at all until decommissioning is complete. Except on for a few hundred sites fully outside of iDEN areas. Posted via Forum Runner yup. OR they could just shut it off and claim "network outages" across all iDEN network and force those few left that they must convert over. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyroscott Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 there we go on same page then now. lol was totally lost for a bit there trying to make sense of it. lol LOL seemed like you guys were on different pages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Slaughter Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 LOL seemed like you guys were on different pages though i did add something to my post....hopefully not completely off now again. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 All these Network Vision details are like a puzzle. I get a piece here and I get a piece there. Some pieces make no sense, and seem contradictory. But then, I get another piece and some of the previous ones start to make sense. Sarge, I don't have all the pieces yet. And sometimes it can cause you guys to get a little frustrated. I understand. This is one of those subjects. I have shared what I know now. I will share more as I know more. I'm still amazed at all that info we have gotten. I would love to know more. I wake up every day excited about what new tidbit I will learn today. - Robert Posted via Forum Runner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitch1007 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Thanks Robert for all the info you are able to share with us! So for about two weeks my speeds have been in the 2+ Mbps range but today dropped back to the .5 range... Seems odd. Thats pretty much where is was before the sudden jump to 2+. Any thoughts on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Slaughter Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 All these Network Vision details are like a puzzle. I get a piece here and I get a piece there. Some pieces make no sense, and seem contradictory. But then, I get another piece and some of the previous ones start to make sense. Sarge, I don't have all the pieces yet. And sometimes it can cause you guys to get a little frustrated. I understand. This is one of those subjects. I have shared what I know now. I will share more as I know more. I'm still amazed at all that info we have gotten. I would love to know more. I wake up every day excited about what new tidbit I will learn today. - Robert Posted via Forum Runner hey no worries at all, appreciate everything thats shared. just was trying to make sense of it some is all there. there gonna do what there gonna do in the end and nothing any of us say of discuss is going to change that anyway, so in reality it doesn't really matter. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Slaughter Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Thanks Robert for all the info you are able to share with us! So for about two weeks my speeds have been in the 2+ Mbps range but today dropped back to the .5 range... Seems odd. Thats pretty much where is was before the sudden jump to 2+. Any thoughts on this? thinking you were clicking your heels jumping for joy for 2 weeks. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacinJosh Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 hey no worries at all, appreciate everything thats shared. just was trying to make sense of it some is all there. there gonna do what there gonna do in the end and nothing any of us say of discuss is going to change that anyway, so in reality it doesn't really matter. lol It's still all blurry to me and I haven't even seen the documents Robert has seen, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitch1007 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 thinking you were clicking your heels jumping for joy for 2 weeks. lol You got that right! I just hope it goes back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irev210 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 there we go on same page then now. lol was totally lost for a bit there trying to make sense of it. lol Edit: Only thing id ? is why have it off, would LTE on 800 cost to have it on even if not being used really? Can't see them just flipping the switch and lighting up the US in one instance when the first 800MHz device is released is all...if so thats awesome and i wanna push that big red button to do so at that time. lol It kinda goes at the point of them transmitting LTE live right now on the fully finished NV sites yet there isn't a device out that can use it yet... Seems like 800MHz and 2500MHz are going to be used in 2013 when LTE-Advanced goes live. I don't really see the point of doing it any other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newgroundsguru Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Damn, even Puerto Rico gets LTE before Arizona.. I'm in the wrong damn state lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynyrd65 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Anything coming to anywhere near Oklahoma soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmchssc Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Will there be any more neighborhood by neighborhood breakdowns for Network Vision rollouts in primary markets like there was for Chicago? I'm particularly interested in Boston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacinJosh Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 Will there be any more neighborhood by neighborhood breakdowns for Network Vision rollouts in primary markets like there was for Chicago? I'm particularly interested in Boston. If the information regarding neighborhood by neighborhood is leaked from Sprint, then I'm sure we will be the first to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Will there be any more neighborhood by neighborhood breakdowns for Network Vision rollouts in primary markets like there was for Chicago? I'm particularly interested in Boston. Currently, I do have geographic cluster info on approx. 1/3 of Sprint Markets. But I only have a cluster schedule for Chicago. I hope to get more in the future. - Robert Posted via Forum Runner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Slaughter Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Anyone still feel confident in sprint being complete with the rollout by the end of 2013..... To me seems like they might be pushing it given the info Robert has laid out for us thus far, unless they have multiple markets that will be done in a months time... Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Whoops my connection dropped during the chat tonight. Oh well off to bed I suppose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferd01 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Hi guys, I'm new in site. I really appreciate all the information that you guys specially Robert are shearing. I Just wanted to say that I think that most of the NV should be up and running befor 2013. If you guys think about it, Sprint got a big contract with apple selling the iPhone. I'm more than sure that the next iPhone will have the LTE just like the new iPad. I'm almost positive that following the tradition on apple reveling the new iPhone on October, Sprint needs to be sure that its VN is up and running for that realize day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Hi guys, I'm new in site. I really appreciate all the information that you guys specially Robert are shearing. I Just wanted to say that I think that most of the NV should be up and running befor 2013. If you guys think about it, Sprint got a big contract with apple selling the iPhone. I'm more than sure that the next iPhone will have the LTE just like the new iPad. I'm almost positive that following the tradition on apple reveling the new iPhone on October, Sprint needs to be sure that its VN is up and running for that realize day. Welcome to S4GRU. I sure appreciate your optimism. And the iPhone will certainly be a big factor in Sprint's urgency of deploying Network Vision. However, for them to be largely complete by 2013, it will include an acceleration that their internal schedules are not yet projecting. I hope to see you around the forums! We also have another liver chat scheduled for Tuesday night at 9:30 PM Mountain time. - Robert, S4GRU.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferd01 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Thanks bro. I've been reading this sites all weekend. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferd01 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Bye the way, if you know any updates on NV for Delaware, let me know. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Bye the way, if you know any updates on NV for Delaware, let me know. Thanks I know the entire schedule, as it sits from a few weeks ago. However, the schedule is largely in flux at the moment. But Delaware is not in the near future. I will say that much now. But stay tuned to S4GRU.com as the details change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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