Ascertion Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 That's what it saysThat's what your permits say? If you look at mine, can you tell if theyre B41 permits or even Sprint permits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrell352 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Yep. Unfortunately a lot was earlier and its hard to see permits after a week old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrell352 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Also I called the city of Ocala to verify the sites. Its legit. There is one site that they described as tear and replace of tower that just finished on 8/27 but that tower has been finished for over 6 months. That's what your permits say? If you look at mine, can you tell if theyre B41 permits or even Sprint permits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenChase7 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Is that place any good? They're building one in my city. I've never eaten at Five Guys. But everyone is going nuts about how good it is. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro Its pretty good. I wouldn't say the greatest but, for a chain, their Burgers are pretty good. And if you like thick, fresh fires, they're pretty good, too. As they say, "There's nothing better than Five Guys in your mouth." (Sorry, I had to.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4NXS Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Aweomse stuff!! I never thought of looking up the building/electrical permits. Clay county has all the scanned documents for all the permits. There are tower locations identified that sprint doesn't even show on the NV uprade page. I was thinking I had stronger single at some of these areas. For instance the website https://network.sprint.com/search/32065/ does not show a tower at Knightboxx Rd. But there is a permit for that location. Time to re-review all my tower locations. http://www.claycountygov.com/services-we-provide/public-records-search-1/building Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4NXS Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Aweomse stuff!! I never thought of looking up the building/electrical permits. Clay county has all the scanned documents for all the permits. There are tower locations identified that sprint doesn't even show on the NV uprade page. I was thinking I had stronger single at some of these areas. For instance the website https://network.sprint.com/search/32065/ does not show a tower at Knightboxx Rd. But there is a permit for that location. Time to re-review all my tower locations. http://www.claycountygov.com/services-we-provide/public-records-search-1/building What's even cooler is there are plans for some of the sites on there along with the permits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarjxxx Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Well I seem to have stumbled across a very useful forum here. Been following some of these threads for a few days now and I have to say most of my apprehension about upgrading to Spark has been put to bed. I've been seeing a lot of horror stories online in other places (Sprint product reviews and customer care forums primarily), mostly about the M8/S5 and their ability to properly access the network. With the M8 being my target upgrade I've been holding off for a while on it, especially with the Ocala corporate store rep telling me himself that there have been a lot of problems with the transition and a lot of returns coming back in but I can see here that our market seems to be well underway, and from the M8 owners thread that most of the issues have been cured either with new properly functioning devices or the current updates. Wasn't sure as I've had one rep tell me we had Spark provisioned in Ocala but the aforementioned rep telling me pretty much the opposite. Good to see there is some certainty to the progress. I like this place, granted you guys are a bit more technical than I am, but I've picked up a lot in the last couple days hanging out here. It's nice to come across a Sprint (or any web) forum with some actual educated and informed members. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarjxxx Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) Also, I saw some mentioning a few pages back about TMo picking up better in Ocala and speculation on getting spectrum from MetroPCS but I can tell you this is not the case. Ocala just happens to be one of TMo's fully provisioned areas. I actually work for a Metro dealer in the Orlando market, (Leesburg area) and I can tell you that as far as we are aware, none of the MPCS legacy network has be repurposed yet in FL. There are still too many legacy subscribers for them to shut the network off yet. Which has made it a nightmare for us, trying to get the current customers onto the new network when they are going from LTE on their legacy devices to 2G/EDGE in most areas just as also mentioned earlier, or worse, when they do pick up HSPA+ on our "4G" devices it's running at barely above 3G speeds on the new TMo devices. Now this is just in our market however. The Jax/Ocala market however was fully provisioned from the start and they do have beautiful LTE coverage up there but Leesburg is something of a black hole for all carriers, even my Sprint phone has trouble picking up LTE in two of our stores. But this is a discussion for a different thread/forum... I just wanted to put that clarification out there. Edited August 28, 2014 by sarjxxx 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhenning Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I went into the Sprint store at the Town Center yesterday since I was in the area and questioned the data usage on my phone for the first day... I figured it might be late posting from previous month when I was streaming on a drive down from NC.... but whatever... anyway, in talking with the supposed most technical guy in the store, I asked if he knew anything about B41 towers... This guy seemed totally lost because it was clear I knew more about this then he did.... Is it any wonder that the store was empty??? Nobody in that store really knew what I was talking about... This guy claimed that all 3 bands were working because Jacksonville was a Spark market... And that I was getting the highest speed B41 already because the twirling LTE on my phone... Geesh... My knowledge mostly gleamed from this site makes me stand out ahead of those guys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhenning Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Its amazing how much band 41 there is downtown, riverside, and near the stadium. Sent from my Nexus 5 I am heading to game tonight... How do you get B41 on my Galaxy 5??? I have gotten LTE plenty of times there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tybo31316 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I am heading to game tonight... How do you get B41 on my Galaxy 5??? I have gotten LTE plenty of times there... If all of your bands are enabled. They should be. The phone will switch bands automatically. Usually for me I'll connect to band 25/26 while in motion then usually when I'm stopped or moving at slow speeds it will connect on its own. The easiest way to tell is to look at signal check pro or your debug menu. Around the downtown area you should have a problem connecting to b41 since the clear site density is good downtown. Sent from my Nexus 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tybo31316 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I went into the Sprint store at the Town Center yesterday since I was in the area and questioned the data usage on my phone for the first day... I figured it might be late posting from previous month when I was streaming on a drive down from NC.... but whatever... anyway, in talking with the supposed most technical guy in the store, I asked if he knew anything about B41 towers... This guy seemed totally lost because it was clear I knew more about this then he did.... Is it any wonder that the store was empty??? Nobody in that store really knew what I was talking about... This guy claimed that all 3 bands were working because Jacksonville was a Spark market... And that I was getting the highest speed B41 already because the twirling LTE on my phone... Geesh... My knowledge mostly gleamed from this site makes me stand out ahead of those guys... I stopped asking reps at the store info back in 2010. Before VZW,AT$T, and T-Mobile rolled out LTE. I was the Sprint store at the River City Market Place and I was getting my wife's GS2 Wimax repaired. I was just chatting with the rep about 4G and I asked him what he thinks about VZW rolling out 4G since sprint is basically the only carrier in the US with 4G right now. This dude said that no other carrier can deploy 4G because sprint owns the rights to 4G. And that sprint isn't going to allow other carriers to use it no matter how much money they threw at them. In which I knew that was a bold face lie. Since then I've never asked them network related questions ever again. Sent from my Nexus 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaryTheLabelGuy Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I stopped asking reps at the store info back in 2010. Before VZW,AT$T, and T-Mobile rolled out LTE. I was the Sprint store at the River City Market Place and I was getting my wife's GS2 Wimax repaired. I was just chatting with the rep about 4G and I asked him what he thinks about VZW rolling out 4G since sprint is basically the only carrier in the US with 4G right now. This dude said that no other carrier can deploy 4G because sprint owns the rights to 4G. And that sprint isn't going to allow other carriers to use it no matter how much money they threw at them. In which I knew that was a bold face lie. Since then I've never asked them network related questions ever again. Sent from my Nexus 5 Lol. Wow. Sprint should spend a lot of time educating their reps, especially now that the new network is up and running. It is imperative that Sprint explain, in detail, what Tri-Band is, how it works and how the customer will benefit. This should have been explained to the general public, front and center, along time ago - at the very least, made it a priority for reps to be completely knowledgeable of what Network Vision is and how the Tri-Band network works. Training and testing a rep's knowledge on the subject should be a condition of their employment. Sent from my LG G3 using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrell352 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I'm have seen them upgrading metro sites to T-Mobile sites on 3 occasions one is right down the road from me. It was a metro site with LTE and T-Mobile was not there then they came and threw some panels and hspa+ is full bars. LTE was on for a day then they turned it off. This was a month ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tybo31316 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I'm have seen them upgrading metro sites to T-Mobile sites on 3 occasions one is right down the road from me. It was a metro site with LTE and T-Mobile was not there then they came and threw some panels and hspa+ is full bars. LTE was on for a day then they turned it off. This was a month ago. Are the metro pcs converted sites the ones with the two big panels in the one smaller one in the middle? I know the regular t mobile site have the three large panels but I've noticed a few around Jacksonville that has the one small and the two big. Sent from my Nexus 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrell352 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Are the metro pcs converted sites the ones with the two big panels in the one smaller one in the middle? I know the regular t mobile site have the three large panels but I've noticed a few around Jacksonville that has the one small and the two big. Sent from my Nexus 5 Not sure. I don't look at T-Mobile sites as thoroughly as I do Sprint or Verizon sites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhenning Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Lol. Wow. Sprint should spend a lot of time educating their reps, especially now that the new network is up and running. It is imperative that Sprint explain, in detail, what Tri-Band is, how it works and how the customer will benefit. This should have been explained to the general public, front and center, along time ago - at the very least, made it a priority for reps to be completely knowledgeable of what Network Vision is and how the Tri-Band network works. Training and testing a rep's knowledge on the subject should be a condition of their employment. Sent from my LG G3 using Tapatalk I figure they think they can snow everybody except those of us who actually know and care about this stuff who frequent websites like this.. Since we are captured customers in a way, why should they really care... They are out there trying to sell to the masses.. As I said previously, I never buy a thing at the Sprint store because their knowledge is typically bad about these kinds of things although I was trying to tell my son-in-law last week to go get his IPHONE upgrade at a store since it would be free... But he went to BB instead... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarjxxx Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Interesting... I suppose it is possible they may have repurposed a few of the sites.. Like I said that is not my market so I'm not 100% sure but I don know that the area as a whole has not been repurposed yet. Did you see Tmo LTE pop up on those sites at the same time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tybo31316 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Aweomse stuff!! I never thought of looking up the building/electrical permits. Clay county has all the scanned documents for all the permits. There are tower locations identified that sprint doesn't even show on the NV uprade page. I was thinking I had stronger single at some of these areas. For instance the website https://network.sprint.com/search/32065/ does not show a tower at Knightboxx Rd. But there is a permit for that location. Time to re-review all my tower locations. http://www.claycountygov.com/services-we-provide/public-records-search-1/building The only tower on knight box has VZW and Tmobile unless Sprint is about to add equipment to it. Sent from my iPad mini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4NXS Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) I stopped asking reps at the store info back in 2010. Before VZW,AT$T, and T-Mobile rolled out LTE. I was the Sprint store at the River City Market Place and I was getting my wife's GS2 Wimax repaired. I was just chatting with the rep about 4G and I asked him what he thinks about VZW rolling out 4G since sprint is basically the only carrier in the US with 4G right now. This dude said that no other carrier can deploy 4G because sprint owns the rights to 4G. And that sprint isn't going to allow other carriers to use it no matter how much money they threw at them. In which I knew that was a bold face lie. Since then I've never asked them network related questions ever again. Sent from my Nexus 5 Well Sprint has two versions of 4G. 4G WiMax and 4G LTE. I bet he was trained to think that 4G is WiMax (most sprint phones that say 4G in the name are WiMax only). I don't know of any other carriers that are using WiMax. Definatly not under any ownership of Sprint as it's a wireless standard that anyone can get licensed on (just depends on frequencies used). I use it for private network coverage on large sites inlieu of 802.11. But more than likely they are all idiots in the store as they are there to sell phones. Most of the tech's you talk to on the phone are not much smarter. Edited August 28, 2014 by N4NXS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4NXS Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) The only tower on knight box has VZW and Tmobile unless Sprint is about to add equipment to it. Sent from my iPad mini That's what I was thinking. But there is a permit. I bet because AT&T owns the tower that clear is on now across blanding, they needed something to fill in the gap. Plus the tower on parkridge with the nest on it can't be upgraded anytime soon. Another gap. I'd be really happy to have this tower go active because I'm in that gap in Tanglewood. I get LTE from Sleepy Hollow (which isn't that bad of signal). Permit #: 13030442 Address: 9 KNIGHT BOXX RD Owner: SPRINT Contractor: MORGAN ELECTRIC Scope: ELECTRICAL ANTENNA CO LOCATE Edited August 28, 2014 by N4NXS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tybo31316 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 That's what I was thinking. But there is a permit. I bet because AT&T owns the tower that clear is on now across blanding, they needed something to fill in the gap. Plus the tower on parkridge with the nest on it can't be upgraded anytime soon. Another gap. I'd be really happy to have this tower go active because I'm in that gap in Tanglewood. I get LTE from Sleepy Hollow (which isn't that bad of signal). Permit #: 13030442 Address: 9 KNIGHT BOXX RD Owner: SPRINT Contractor: MORGAN ELECTRIC Scope: ELECTRICAL ANTENNA CO LOCATE The tower with the nest is a GMO site broadcasting band 25. Sprint does need band 26 in that area especially for inbuilding service. When I walk into the Winn Dixie on knightboxx my phone is useless. Also the ATT site with the equipment appears to have RRUs on it for band 41 but I never pick it up in that location. Sent from my iPad mini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4NXS Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) The tower with the nest is a GMO site broadcasting band 25. Sprint does need band 26 in that area especially for inbuilding service. When I walk into the Winn Dixie on knightboxx my phone is useless. Also the ATT site with the equipment appears to have RRUs on it for band 41 but I never pick it up in that location. Sent from my iPad mini Here is a couple photos of the AT&T tower. Gotta love the fake buzzards (look like mascovy ducks) hanging on the tower https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106286908/IMG_9354.JPG https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106286908/IMG_9363.JPG https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106286908/IMG_9357.JPG Here is a photo looking towards the Middleburg tower from Knightboxx. I need to drive down and take photos of it sometime. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106286908/IMG_9367.JPG I thought I may have recieved Band 41 on the corner of Knightboxx. Need to look back through my logs in a bit. I was thinking it may be coming from the clear shot to the Middleburg tower. My current test sheet shows I recieved the following signals from the corner of Knightboxx and Blanding -94 04A11B02 9474 B25 Blanding & Knightboxx Middleburg? -91 04A8831A 9524 B26 Blanding & Knightboxx Middleburg? Edited August 28, 2014 by N4NXS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4NXS Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) Incase anyone wants my current test list from the other day. I plan to compile with my log files. This was a manual take off when taking photos of the towers. -90 04A13801 9473 B25 Blanding & Constitution Constitution-77 04A13802 9473 B25 Blanding & Constitution Constitution-86 04A13803 9473 B25 Foxridge Center Drive Constitution-90 04A13A19 9523 B26 Blanding & Constitution Constitution-104 04A13A19 9523 B26 Blanding & Belmont Constitution-79 04A86A1A 9523 B26 Blanding & Constitution Constitution-97 04A86A1B 9523 B26 Foxridge Center Drive Constitution-80 04A08003 9473 B25 Kingsley @ Tower Kingsley-91 04A9101B 9523 B26 Kingsley @ Tower Kingsley-94 04A11B02 9474 B25 Blanding & Knightboxx Middleburg?-91 04A8831A 9524 B26 Blanding & Knightboxx Middleburg?-82 04A02401 9473 B25 Blanding & Parkridge Parkridge-82 04A02401 9473 B25 Blanding & College Parkridge-90 04A02401 9473 B25 Blanding & Londonberry Parkridge-95 04A02402 9473 B25 College & Peoria Parkridge-78 04A02402 9473 B25 College & Parkridge Parkridge-115 04A02403 9473 B25 Madison Ave & Blanding Parkridge-105 04A02403 9473 B25 Blanding at Shed Business Parkridge-92 04A02403 9473 B25 Blanding & Jeffeson Parkridge-108 04A02403 9473 B25 Jefferson Ave Parkridge-115 04A02403 9473 B25 Big Sur Ave Parkridge-90 0208A200 8320 B41 Sleepy Hollow @ Tower Sleepy Hollow-98 0208A201 8320 B41 Sleepy Hollow @ Tower Sleepy Hollow-110 0208A701 8320 B41 College & Brickyard Sleepy Hollow-115 04A8CF19 9523 B26 Harrison Tower Sleepy Hollow-112 04A8CF19 9523 B26 220 & Garden Centers Sleepy Hollow-101 04A8CF19 9523 B26 220 & College Sleepy Hollow-76 04A8CF19 9523 B26 220 & Sleepy Hollow Sleepy Hollow-93 04A8CF19 9523 B26 Sleepy Hollow Tower 1 Sleepy Hollow-99 04A8CF19 9523 B26 College & Old Jennings Sleepy Hollow-110 04A8CF19 9523 B26 College & Jefferson Sleepy Hollow Edited August 28, 2014 by N4NXS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syph3r Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 That's what I was thinking. But there is a permit. I bet because AT&T owns the tower that clear is on now across blanding, they needed something to fill in the gap. Plus the tower on parkridge with the nest on it can't be upgraded anytime soon. Another gap. I'd be really happy to have this tower go active because I'm in that gap in Tanglewood. I get LTE from Sleepy Hollow (which isn't that bad of signal). Permit #: 13030442 Address: 9 KNIGHT BOXX RD Owner: SPRINT Contractor: MORGAN ELECTRIC Scope: ELECTRICAL ANTENNA CO LOCATE I wonder if iden use to be on that tower because Verizon and T-Mobile are the only 2 on that tower right now. Sprint and clearwire have never been on that tower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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