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San Diego Network Vision/LTE Deployment schedule update

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by Robert Herron

Sprint 4G Rollout Updates

Monday, July 2, 2012 - 12:30 PM MDT

 

The next market in our Network Vision/LTE deployment schedule update series is ...San Diego. The San Diego market has yet to be announced by Sprint, but is expected to be announced in the near future. Perhaps around the time of the first market launches.

 

The Sprint San Diego market encompasses San Diego County and parts of Imperial County, including the San Diego Metro Area, Encinitas, Carlsbad, Oceanside, Vista, San Marcos, Escondido and Calexico and El Centro to the East. Sprint's Network Vision OEM Alcatel/Lucent is scheduled to begin mobilizing their subcontractors around the market this month. The first completed Network Vision sites are scheduled to start coming online in August.

 

San Diego Market Launch

 

It was Sprint's original plan to launch markets when they reached 50% of sites converted to Network Vision. However, it has now been determined that Sprint will move up launches sooner than 50% completion in several markets. This is likely to maintain a Mid 2012 launch in markets that have already been announced. However, in an unannounced market like San Diego, we don't know if they will resume pushing back market launches to 50%, or if they will now settle on a 40% completion to be the new normal for market launches.

 

If Sprint waits for 50% completion to launch this market, it would make the launch approximately February/March (should the OEM stay on schedule). If they plan on a 40% market completion for launch, that would be January. You may think that 40% - 50% site completion is not enough to launch LTE service, but it would provide pretty good coverage. Even Verizon doesn't launch on all sites in a market initially. Usually less than 50%, then filling in with more and more sites every few months.

 

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Anticipated Sites Complete at Market Launch. According to the Network Vision schedules that S4GRU has reviewed, if Sprint launched the market in January, these are the anticipated sites that would likely have LTE complete at that time. This would provide fairly good LTE coverage over many parts of the market.

 

Schedule details and the bottom line

 

Sprint has not selected a date to formally "launch" LTE service in San Diego, yet. It is difficult to try to pick a date now this far out, but we will take a stab at it. In looking at the schedule as of today, it would indicate a January market launch (going on a 40% - 50% completion for launch). But there is no way to know if AlcaLu and their subcontractors will actually hit their schedule dates this early in the deployment for this market. We will be able to gauge better after a few months of production.

 

Alcatel/Lucent needs to hit a production rate of approximately 70 sites per month to stay on schedule. This market shouldn't have problems staying on time as 70 sites per month is a steady rate that can be achieved with proper planning.

 

S4GRU has examined the schedule in great detail in this market and sees that most of the sites will be complete by May 2013. However, there may be a few sporadic sites that will linger past the completion.

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Photo of the Downtown San Diego provided courtesy of Wikimedia Commons.

 

NOTE: S4GRU Sponsor Members can track regular updates of

Network Vision sites completed nationwide. Completed sites are shown in an interactive Google Maps interface. Information about sponsorship can be found here: S4GRU Sponsorship



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if I'm not mistaken, the towers East of El Centro are located at the edge of AZ.. I have one of those towers located about 2 miles north of where I live. I passed by there last week and the 3G speeds have increased significanly. download speeds last week were in the 1.5 and 1.2 up.

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if I'm not mistaken, the towers East of El Centro are located at the edge of AZ.. I have one of those towers located about 2 miles north of where I live. I passed by there last week and the 3G speeds have increased significanly. download speeds last week were in the 1.5 and 1.2 up.

 

Did you notice any new panels on the East Imperial County sites?

 

Robert

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Didn't notice anything new. The panels that I saw look the same as the ones here in Yuma.. I'll try and swing out that way and snap a picture..

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Hi Robert,

 

Is there a version of the above map that I can zoom in on to see if my home "tower" is included in the initial roll out?

 

The closest site, which is only about 400-feet from my house, is behind some cowling on a light pole. I eyeball it every time I pass it. I don't see where it's connected because it's just on a street corner. Is it possible the equipment is underground? Sorry I don't know the terminology for the computer stuff the antennas are connect to, but I don't see any of it nearby.

 

The next closest site to my house is in a parking lot behind Foster's Freeze. There are several light poles with similar antennas and they're quite obviously connected to cabinets and power feeds labeled Sprint, and Cricket.

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Hi Robert,Is there a version of the above map that I can zoom in on to see if my home "tower" is included in the initial roll out?The closest site, which is only about 400-feet from my house, is behind some cowling on a light pole. I eyeball it every time I pass it. I don't see where it's connected because it's just on a street corner. Is it possible the equipment is underground? Sorry I don't know the terminology for the computer stuff the antennas are connect to, but I don't see any of it nearby.The next closest site to my house is in a parking lot behind Foster's Freeze. There are several light poles with similar antennas and they're quite obviously connected to cabinets and power feeds labeled Sprint, and Cricket.

 

Emmm...Fosters. I miss Fosters. I could go for a chocolate dipped vanilla cone from Fosters Freeze now. Takes me back to my childhood.

 

What we were talking about, again???

 

OH yeah...

 

That maps above was database built using search modifiers. It does not exist anywhere but here. I did not save it anywhere except for the screenshot which I posted.

 

There is in our Premier Sponsor section a complete San Diego market map that shows every single site in the San Diego market. You can click on each site, and it will tell you schedule dates for that site.

 

Robert

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is there any chance that San Diego will have any sites that are scheduled for September? I can't wait to see the September maps.

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Would love to see an updated map for San Diego. Wasn't there work done already in July and August?

 

I am not aware of any San Diego work that has started yet.

 

Robert

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I suppose there wont be a September map for San Diego. Can we see the October map for sites scheduled for LTE?

 

If I don't publish an October map by October 1st, PM me and I will create one just for you.

 

Robert

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It's October 2nd :). Looking for that updated San Diego info please.

 

Thinking of jumping to the Note 2 on Sprint when it comes... Don't mind waiting a little... But I don't want to get led by the nose and misinformed.

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We are waiting for confirmation of work beginning in the field. Seems like most second round markets starts are running 30-60 days behind schedule.

 

Robert

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Someone on the Sprint community forums claims to have latched onto LTE in Encinitas near the LA Fitness or something.

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Someone on the Sprint community forums claims to have latched onto LTE in Encinitas near the LA Fitness or something.

 

Tell them to run the Sensorly app so it can be verified and seen by the rest of us. Thanks!

 

Robert

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Tell them to run the Sensorly app so it can be verified and seen by the rest of us. Thanks!Robert

 

Just wondering are there any updates for San Diego as we head into November? Is 4G still set for a January 2013 launch?

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We had our first Network Vision site go live in the San Diego market in this week's update. However, it is a brand new site and not a conversion. We are not certain yet if this is the beginning of Network Vision in the market or not. We are cautiously optimistic.

 

Robert

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Hey Guys, been following for awhile now and am thankful for all the great info. I posted some photos to my G+ about updates on the far east side of Poway .. https://plus.google.com/117968670793974469021/posts/dbRyHuZgBnP

 

They look to be NV panels? Speeds have doubled (*when operational*, right now coverage is up and down as they seem to be testing/working on equipment). Since I am dealing with serious coverage issues on my phone with the corporate level of sprint, I phoned in to add this to my ticket and they advised me Network Vision is actively happening in San Diego, and I will see this for the next few weeks throughout the city. we all know the agents fluff info sometimes, but from the looks of it, may be true!

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I see that your last post on Dec 26th showed that San Diego was at 5%. Is this current?

 

No. There have been updates since then. We are working on a new update today. If you become a S4GRU Sponsor, you can get access to maps showing which sites have work complete, and sites that are being worked on. http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1195-information-about-s4gru-sponsorship-levels-and-how-to-become-a-sponsor/

 

Robert

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I have checked the spot twice this week. I was able to get a 4G signal in La Mesa. I don't know if it has been reported before so sorry if this is a re-post. If you want to check it out for yourself go to the Vons on the corner of Baltimore and Lake Murray Blvd. Please report your findings. My first test came back 12.8M Down/10.3M Up. I tested it again and it was 10.9M Down/10.2M Up.(using speedtest.net) I hope this is permanent and not just a test site. Anyone with knowledge care to comment.

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There is a base tower in the 92108 area code of San Diego that is either in Beta testing for LTE or is fully active. I consistantly receive 4G on My Motorola Photon Q LTE every morning when commuting to work (for those of you who know San Diego, this is the area of the Grantville trolley station). I will find out tomorrow the exact base staion number and location and report it in a later post. I called the Sprint Engineering Team and asked if indeed this location is processing 4G LTE and they said "we can not confirm if the tower in this area is up and running because we are not authorized to disclose before the 'official' announcement."

I thought at first that maybe the Photon Q was blessed with a tri-band radio and was only receiving the WiMax signal broadcast from SDSU, which Sprint users have access to. But the Photon Q only has LTE capabilities. Soooooo.........

Very soon, San Diegans, hang in there!

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