WiWavelength

You need to take into account at least three things: Comcast has massive scale over wired broadband in this country. Wired and wireless are two different animals, but Sprint is not even close to Comcast level control of the latter. And Comcast is currently pressing for even greater control of the former. Comcast is inveterately using litigation, legislation, and regulatory capture to push an agenda that lines its pockets but damages this country's broadband future. Sprint is not doing the same. As in the first point, Sprint lacks the scale to do likewise. This is S4GRU. Consider where you are. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates. You implicitly accuse me of defending a "hated" Sprint? Damn right. What do you expect? Unpaid S4GRU staff to just commiserate or throw in the towel? If you want to sit at home in the dark about Network Vision and stew about its progress, well, you can do that almost anywhere else. Consider those key differences. If you cannot, I do not know what to say... AJ

But that also diminishes the degree of this accomplishment, which I feel you have overstated, Milan. AJ

A few sites does not a market make. Otherwise, Sprint has destroyed the rest of the domestic industry with the time to market of its LTE rollout. So, let us be honest. VZW has not overlaid AWS on every site in all of the markets it claims. Many sites do not currently need the added capacity and may not get overlaid for several years. AJ

Several recent posters should know that this thread is now on watch. It will not become a pro VZW, anti Sprint scribe. Rather, it will be locked, posthaste. So, keep your wits about you, and remember the rules. AJ

Charlie does not sell out. He sells others down the river. AJ

Maybe, but not right away. No current VZW devices support carrier aggregation. And as long as VZW maintains SVLTE capability, those devices likely never will support carrier aggregation. Such would just require too many simultaneous radio paths inside those devices to be practical. AJ

That is basically the way the tri band deployment is supposed to work. It would not make sense for you to enter the basement, lose the original band 25 carrier, then pick up the second band 25 carrier. It is not as if the second band 25 carrier has a propagation advantage over the original band 25 carrier. AJ

Mike, you need to check out several posts in the Chicago market thread. In a nutshell, SignalCheck band 26 detection or EARFCN conversion can be out of whack. http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1084-network-visionlte-chicago-market/?p=318697 http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1084-network-visionlte-chicago-market/?p=318819 http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1084-network-visionlte-chicago-market/?p=318820 AJ

Yep, confirmed. I just crunched the numbers by inputting the known band 26 EARFCN into the band 25 EARFCN conversion formula. The result exactly matched drock2750's erroneous band 25 frequencies. So, SignalCheck has gone awry. AJ

Go show that screenshot to Mike in the SignalCheck thread. Something is amiss because those are not valid band 25 frequencies. Based on the evidence, my guess is that you were connected to the band 26 carrier but that SignalCheck's band detection or EARFCN conversion contains an error. AJ

Let us be clear. VZW does not have a 20 MHz FDD band 4 network. Its AWS bandwidth is highly variable. AJ

Make the Nexus 6 a "pleasure model," and it will not be an issue. In fact, it will be a huge hit among this crowd. AJ

Yawn. This is old news. We have known about the band 4 AWS overlay for months and months already. VZW has even mentioned the added bandwidth in some of its previous TV commercials. This is just the big marketing push now. AJ

That is seriously way too many. You need to go on a diet. Here, to get started, have a Tab. AJ

The counterargument to that, though, is Netflix is not just pushing traffic down, for example, Comcast's network. Rather, Comcast's subscribers are using their broadband service and requesting those packets. So, who is really to "blame"? Netflix, Comcast, or Comcast's own subs? AJ

Cough, VZW Trojan horse, cough... AJ

Remember, Robert moved to western South Dakota and had to terminate his Sprint lines. He is now with that operator that goes by three letters, A, S, and S -- I might be off by a letter or two. But that three letter operator does not have Google Voice integration. AJ

To cut to the chase, can you explain why this is not covered under the peering agreement between Cogent and Comcast? If the traffic is that asymmetric, then Comcast should be receiving a positive cash flow from Cogent. As I understand peering agreements, they are much like reciprocal wireless roaming agreements -- cash truly changes hands only as necessary. I asked this question a few weeks ago. I do not recall a definitive answer from you. Why are you so apt to rationalize and/or defend Comcast? It is justifiably one of, if not the most, hated companies in America. Unless benefiting from a paycheck from Comcast or receiving philanthropic graft from Comcast, more or less no one likes Comcast. Rather, they put up with Comcast for lack of a viable alternative. And to be blatantly honest, if I ever met Brian Roberts -- Comcast family legacy CEO, for the uninformed -- I would tell him to his face that he is an "asshat." He has the financial and technological might to do great good for this country. Instead, he, his family, and their shareholders have assumed the mantle of the robber barons of a century ago. Shame on them. AJ

The governor of Google issued a stay of execution. AJ

For another parallel, AT&T and its ilk are akin to Stephen Abootman wanting more "Internet money:" AJ

That already happens -- it is analogous to broadband speed tiers. I pay for a middle tier; maybe my neighbor pays more for the highest tier. But that is not what this Net Neutrality debate is about. So, the parallel is not relevant. Instead, try this one. What if the local utility decided to charge both you and your washing machine manufacturer for the water your washing machine uses, would that be fair? You know, because washing machines use so much water that the utility might have to upgrade its pipes. Or what if the local utility decided not to charge you for the water that your washing machine uses so long as your washing machine manufacturer would be willing to pay for it, would that be fair? And not only would it be fair to you but also would it be fair to the market? Or would basically all manufacturers have to pony up, otherwise get run out of the market? Mine is not a perfect parallel, but it is relevant. For further reading, Radem does a fine job in the previous post of describing peering, which is central to the Internet but which AT&T and its cronies want to disrupt in a shakedown for more cash. AJ

Nope. You are dead wrong. And College Station, eh? I have to ask, are you a student at Texas A&M? If so, I am not surprised. Regardless, I already comedically summed up the situation seven years ago: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1210974-Commentary-Duo-of-Google-and-Sprint-could-put-AT-amp-T-in-a-headlock?p=9623746#post9623746 My little skit was inspired by former AT&T nee SBC CEO Ed Whitacre's own comments two years earlier. He basically dug his own ignorant, greedy grave: http://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2005/10/5498-2/ http://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2006/01/6089-2/ Yeah, in both my sendup and Whitacre's actual comments, there is a name for that -- it is called extortion. The Internet does not work that way. Users pay for their packets sent and received. They do not pay for their packets to be delivered. Your examples of Netflix, Facebook, etc., are specious. They already pay for their bandwidth, as do the users who request those packets. The problem is that the Twin Bells/Big Cable envy the short term money that the content providers are making. It is greed and envy -- pure and simple. You see, the Twin Bells/Big Cable are not content to be just "pipes" that require investment but make copious long term profits. Well, if not, they can get the hell out of the industry. And they can get the hell off of public right of way. AJ

Actually, that would be in your Google Next Week. AJ

Many an S4GRU member has had to be bleeped when he lost the ****ing signal. AJ

Uh, that is not your finger. AJ