Questions about availability of SVLTE on Sprints Network.....

[MileHI38]

Guys I'm new here, kind of did an introduction in the Market thread for the Denver Metro area. Anyhow I'm thinking of switching back to Sprint from a 4 year hiatus and was curious as to the capabilities of SVLTE currently on the new Sprint LTE plus network??

 

I read this quote in a XDA thread: "Until Sprint does VoLTE (Probably not until late 2015 to early 2016) this won't be possible. You can still do non-LTE data simultaneously just not LTE".

 

 

I use my Bluetooth 90% of the time I'm on the phone so I have both hands free to do data sessions on my phone (currently with T-Mobile) so it's easy to do both at the same time, or when I'm tethered to my Surface to take calls and still browse.

 

Guys tell me there is some kind of road map for this??

[zodiac12345]

Guys I'm new here, kind of did an introduction in the Market thread for the Denver Metro area. Anyhow I'm thinking of switching back to Sprint from a 4 year hiatus and was curious as to the capabilities of SVLTE currently on the new Sprint LTE plus network??

 

I read this quote in a XDA thread: "Until Sprint does VoLTE (Probably not until late 2015 to early 2016) this won't be possible. You can still do non-LTE data simultaneously just not LTE".

 

 

I use my Bluetooth 90% of the time I'm on the phone so I have both hands free to do data sessions on my phone (currently with T-Mobile) so it's easy to do both at the same time, or when I'm tethered to my Surface to take calls and still browse.

 

Guys tell me there is some kind of road map for this??

 

No, XDA is wrong, as usual when it comes to networks and the way the network side of phones work. No Sprint phone can do SVLTE, the last to do so was the Note 3. Every phone since then falls back to 1xRTT for voice, with no data. 

 

Just for future advice, do not listen to XDA for Sprint support. I have seen many threads that made me cringe. This one specifically just goes to show how XDA can be garbage. The thread itself mentions that if a Sprint Note 5 doesn't have the spinning spark logo in the status bar, that the phone doesn't connect to "Spark LTE", insinuating that Sprint disabled band 41 on the device after the first software update. It further tells the reader how to flash back to the old firmware to get a logo back!

 

SVLTE will not be possible until VoLTE becomes active on the Sprint. This will not happen for a while, due to areas with no LTE, areas with poor LTE, and just simple characteristics that 1xRTT travels farther than LTE. Sprint's plan is to continue using CDMA as the voice backhaul for some time. 

[Deval]

VoLTE won't be coming to Sprint till one of two things happen, or both.

 

• LTE coverage becomes ubiquitous with 1x voice coverage
• Someone develops technology which allows seamless handoff from VoLTE to 1x without dropping the call

[JThorson]

Well it is possible if you find an old phone such as the note 3 or gsIII, then you can do SVLTE.

[MileHI38]

Thanks guys for the responses^^^^^^^

 

I guess that answers my question, being that Sprint will not have SVLTE for quite a while until like Deval said above LTE coverage is the same as 1x voice coverage -or- technology provides something for the handoff from VOLTE to 1x...........

 

So T-Mobile's LTE coverage is the same as their voice coverage currently?? Is that why they can offer SVLTE, or is that just a benefit of GSM technology?

[RAvirani]

Thanks guys for the responses^^^^^^^

 

I guess that answers my question, being that Sprint will not have SVLTE for quite a while until like Deval said above LTE coverage is the same as 1x voice coverage -or- technology provides something for the handoff from VOLTE to 1x...........

 

So T-Mobile's LTE coverage is the same as their voice coverage currently?? Is that why they can offer SVLTE, or is that just a benefit of GSM technology?

With Tmos 700mhz their LTE coverage is as good as if not even better than their GSM/WCDMA coverage. Also, there is a technology available today which Tmo uses that allows voice handoff between LTE and WCDMA.

[Quantify]

As a user...TMOs band 12 coverage is not yet on par with HSPA. LTE handoffs to hspa are seamless though, and data during voice isn't a problem. Sprint 1x coverage is still more reliable indoors than TMO.

 

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[rackhivee]

I am not 100% but I believe you can do google voice integration to your Sprint number and then simply use the Google Voice dialer to make phone calls. Again, I am not 100% but I believe I read somewhere that this is possibility. Might be worth looking into if you're interested.

[Dkoellerwx]

Thanks guys for the responses^^^^^^^

 

I guess that answers my question, being that Sprint will not have SVLTE for quite a while until like Deval said above LTE coverage is the same as 1x voice coverage -or- technology provides something for the handoff from VOLTE to 1x...........

 

So T-Mobile's LTE coverage is the same as their voice coverage currently?? Is that why they can offer SVLTE, or is that just a benefit of GSM technology?

 

How much are you on the phone? I know it varies for each individual, but for me, I don't remember the last time I needed SvLTE.

[WiWavelength]

So T-Mobile's LTE coverage is the same as their voice coverage currently?? Is that why they can offer SVLTE, or is that just a benefit of GSM technology?

 

T-Mobile handsets do not support SVLTE.  They do simultaneous voice/data via VoLTE or e/CSFB fallback to W-CDMA.

 

AJ

[Houston_Texas]

I'm guessing earliest is 2020. Maybe 2019?

 

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[MileHI38]

Rackhivee - Can you explain to me how you would do Google voice integration? That might be an option as that would allow a data session at the same time you are on a Google voice call though VoIP right?

 

Dkoellerwx - I use the phone probably about a 50/50 split between phone calls and data. I guess I've been use to using SVDO back in the day with the Old Sprint using the HTC Evo LTE and don't remember if you could before with the Palm Pre or the HTC Evo 4g (Wimax) and then of course my stints with AT&T and T-Mobile currently so this is kind of a bummer but I would probably adjust.

 

AJ - Thanks for the clarification on that T-Mobile uses VoLTE and not SVLTE. I do remember that back when I was on Sprint the call quality on 1x was better than what I currently have had the past 4 years or so being on GSM networks.

 

Houston_Texas - I'm hoping they do something by 2019 at least 2020 seems so far away lol......

[Dkoellerwx]

Rackhivee - Can you explain to me how you would do Google voice integration? That might be an option as that would allow a data session at the same time you are on a Google voice call though VoIP right?

 

Once you have a Sprint number, just sign up for Google voice, and select Sprint integration. You can elect to receive SMS via the GV/Hangouts app, or regular messaging. Voice mail is handled by Google, but you can check it online and its writes them out for you (decent accuracy most of the time).  Using the Hangout dialer, you can make a call using your data connection, whether it be WiFi, LTE or EVDO.

 

 

Dkoellerwx - I use the phone probably about a 50/50 split between phone calls and data. I guess I've been use to using SVDO back in the day with the Old Sprint using the HTC Evo LTE and don't remember if you could before with the Palm Pre or the HTC Evo 4g (Wimax) and then of course my stints with AT&T and T-Mobile currently so this is kind of a bummer but I would probably adjust.

 

I think WiMax allowed voice and data since the WiMax radio was seperate from the CDMA radio (one of the reasons for big battery drain on 4G). If all else fails, you could looking into getting a hotspot with a small data bucket to use while you are on the phone. 

[MileHI38]

Thanks for the instructions on the Google voice integration

 

Makes sense because the battery life back then wasn't the greatest with Wimax for sure! Yea I'll look into a hotspot and check the prices/plans to see if they're reasonable maybe that might be an option.

[Houston_Texas]

Once you have a Sprint number, just sign up for Google voice, and select Sprint integration. You can elect to receive SMS via the GV/Hangouts app, or regular messaging. Voice mail is handled by Google, but you can check it online and its writes them out for you (decent accuracy most of the time). Using the Hangout dialer, you can make a call using your data connection, whether it be WiFi, LTE or EVDO.

 

 

 

I think WiMax allowed voice and data since the WiMax radio was seperate from the CDMA radio (one of the reasons for big battery drain on 4G). If all else fails, you could looking into getting a hotspot with a small data bucket to use while you are on the phone.

Last I tried, caller ID showed unknown plus hotspot didn't work when a call would come in. Just my use case.

 

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[Dkoellerwx]

Last I tried, caller ID showed unknown plus hotspot didn't work when a call would come in. Just my use case.

 

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Last time I used it (yesterday) my caller ID showed just fine. And I was not talking about the on-board hotspot. A stand alone unit for use while a phone call is in progress.

[Mitsospiros]

If your phone is connected to WiFi, you can talk and use data simultaneously.

[modplan]

Last I tried, caller ID showed unknown plus hotspot didn't work when a call would come in. Just my use case.

 

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If you have integration, caller ID works perfectly. Hotspot also works fine, a hangouts VOIP call is just another data session and does not affect hotspot in any way.

[MileHI38]

Thanks guys for the feedback looks like integration within Google voice is the best way to do both a data session and a VOIP call at the same time since they're both ran through LTE.

[travismheim]

Thanks guys for the feedback looks like integration within Google voice is the best way to do both a data session and a VOIP call at the same time since they're both ran through LTE.

I've been using Google voice calling almost exclusively for over a year now. It works very well. Another added benefit to simultaneous voice/data is all your devices you sign into hangouts on can send and receive calls/SMS through your Sprint number. The only drawback so far is MMS still only go to the phone, and for some reason I'm unable to send MMS to other Sprint users via Google voice.

 

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[Dkoellerwx]

I've been using Google voice calling almost exclusively for over a year now. It works very well. Another added benefit to simultaneous voice/data is all your devices you sign into hangouts on can send and receive calls/SMS through your Sprint number. The only drawback so far is MMS still only go to the phone, and for some reason I'm unable to send MMS to other Sprint users via Google voice.

 

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Can you elaborate on the MMS issue? The Google Voice app does not send MMS at all. I'm not sure about Hangouts, I never made the switch. I can send MMS just fine all my contacts, Sprint or not, using a regular texting app (I use Textra).

 

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[travismheim]

Can you elaborate on the MMS issue? The Google Voice app does not send MMS at all. I'm not sure about Hangouts, I never made the switch. I can send MMS just fine all my contacts, Sprint or not, using a regular texting app (I use Textra).

 

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Yeah, sorry that was a little confusing the way I worded it. I use Hangouts for Google voice. I can send MMS via Google voice through Hangouts to non Sprint carriers but I get an error when sending to Sprint users. I have to change to send via carrier number instead in Hangouts. I should also add, I use Hangouts for SMS as well. I have not tested using Hangouts for GV and another messaging app for SMS.

[Dkoellerwx]

Yeah, sorry that was a little confusing the way I worded it. I use Hangouts for Google voice. I can send MMS via Google voice through Hangouts to non Sprint carriers but I get an error when sending to Sprint users. I have to change to send via carrier number instead in Hangouts. I should also add, I use Hangouts for SMS as well. I have not tested using Hangouts for GV and another messaging app for SMS.

 

That's odd. I just use Textra for everything, SMS and MMS. I haven't run into any issues using GV that way. I can still send and receive messages on other devices, the just don't show the outgoing messages in Textra. 

[tanderson164]

My question is why should we have to do any work arounds? Volte should at least be an option for those who are in strong Lte areas or just don't care if they drop a call occasionally but Verizon was able to have that option implemented in there software. So why can't Sprint instead of all the BS workarounds?

 

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[garcon]

My question is why should we have to do any work arounds? Volte should at least be an option for those who are in strong Lte areas or just don't care if they drop a call occasionally but Verizon was able to have that option implemented in there software. So why can't Sprint instead of all the BS workarounds?

 

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They can. They won't.  They don't want dropped calls to be an issue and give people the impression that their network sucks again.  Sprint is just starting to turn their reputation around and they'd rather have a solid 1x voice network without VoLTE and wait for 1x SRLCC.  It helps that they didn't need to wait for VoLTE to deploy HD voice.  

 

Verizon doesn't care about dropped calls, and since they skipped 1xAdvance, they need VoLTE for HD Voice.  In any case, their network reputation is self perpetuating at this point.  A million customers could complain about dropped calls to everyone they know and people still wouldn't leave Verizon because they know verizon has the "most reliable network" -- there's no other reason to pay their absurd prices.