CDMA carriers use more LTE data than GSM.

[lou99/maximus1987]

ok.... Some people who live in RUAL areas choose to live in RUAL areas for a reason, they like nature and dont want to see steel in the air out their back door....

 

The towers have to go somewhere. Tall steel powerlines have to go somewhere. It's not like there's this many towers

 

 

[joshnys8913]

Well I am not going to argue with you because you could care less and secondly people have a right to voice their opinion(s) in the United States.

[WiWavelength]

The towers have to go somewhere. Tall steel powerlines have to go somewhere.

 

No, they do not "have to go somewhere" -- not under the current system in which wireless operators are private businesses.

 

Now, if we want to get sensible and make telecom a national utility, then we can have one infrastructure entity.  Everywhere gets fiber and wireless.  Providers pay for their use and sell their services over the top of the national infrastructure.

 

Then, if locales want to opt out, they can -- or maybe not.  That depends on the court system.  Highways get built via eminent domain.  National telecom infrastructure could, too.

 

AJ

[lou99/maximus1987]

Highways get built via eminent domain.  National telecom infrastructure could, too.

 

AJ

This isn't even a question of eminent domain. If a carrier buys land, they can be blocked - even in Nowheresville - from building.

 

Telecom infrastructure already has eminent domain perks: since Kelo vs New London (2004), private property can be forcibly bought and transferred to another private party as long as the tax revenue generated by new owner is greater than current owner.

[lou99/maximus1987]

 

Now, if we want to get sensible and make telecom a national utility, then we can have one infrastructure entity.  Everywhere gets fiber and wireless.  Providers pay for their use and sell their services over the top of the national infrastructure.

 

AJ

 

That's not gonna happen. And it looks like we're gonna have 4 carriers with 300-ish mil coverage anyway.

[WiWavelength]

That's not gonna happen. And it looks like we're gonna have 4 carriers with 300-ish mil coverage anyway.

 

If the "ish" is a euphemism for shit, yes.  VZ and AT&T -- not just their wireless arms -- will never cover the US as befits the most dominant country in the world.  Meanwhile, Sprint and T-Mobile will be just shit across most of our geographic area.

 

AJ

[lou99/maximus1987]

If the "ish" is a euphemism for shit, yes. VZ and AT&T -- not just their wireless arms -- will never cover the US as befits the most dominant country in the world. Meanwhile, Sprint and T-Mobile will be just shit across most of our geographic area.

 

AJ

TMO is gaining postpaid phones with everyone knowing their coverage is shit.

Not everyone needs or can afford vzw coverage.

 

 

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[joshnys8913]

Anyways, lol

[WiWavelength]

That's not gonna happen.

Capitalist $Murica.

 

AJ

[Arysyn]

I was reading an article on Fierce Wireless about Verizon, where one of the commenters mentioned that in Florida, Verizon has only six towers covering three counties, which sounds absurd to me, but is this even remotely true?

[lou99/maximus1987]

Capitalist $Murica.

 

 

AJ

Has it happened even in communist china?

 

Have softb and TMO even attempted network sharing? No because it's not in softb's interest to compete in 4 carrier market so they'd rather take the chance republican admin wins in 2016.

 

Is even china even discussing doing this? No so it must not be that great an idea in practice.

 

 

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[WiWavelength]

Has it happened even in communist china?

 

Have softb and TMO even attempted network sharing? No because it's not in softb's interest to compete in 4 carrier market so they'd rather take the chance republican admin wins in 2016.

 

Is even china even discussing doing this? No so it must not be that great an idea in practice.

 

What the hell does China have to do with this?  You miss my point completely.

 

The US does not need to follow any other country.  The US needs to lead -- like it used to do.  Blaze the trail.  Show the rest of the world how it is done.  Build the Interstate Highway System, go to the Moon, establish the Internet, etc.  The long term payoff is immense.

 

Today, none of those great, big things would happen.  All would be left to for profit corporations, which would endeavor only when and where convenient for short term profits.

 

But, in order to appreciate that point, you may need to remove your head from so far up your gluteus maximus.  Or did I get that punctuation wrong?  Should it be gluteus, maximus?  Or gluteus maximus, maximus?

 

 

AJ

[lou99/maximus1987]

What the hell does China have to do with this? You miss my point completely.

 

The US does not need to follow any other country. The US needs to lead -- like it used to do. Blaze the trail. Show the rest of the world how it is done. Build the Interstate Highway System, go to the Moon, establish the Internet, etc. The long term payoff is immense.

 

Today, none of those great, big things would happen. All would be left to for profit corporations, which would endeavor only when and where convenient for short term profits.

 

But, in order to appreciate that point, you may need to remove your head from so far up your gluteus maximus. Or did I get that punctuation wrong? Should it be gluteus, maximus? Or gluteus maximus, maximus?

 

 

AJ

UMTS or is it umts or UMT-S

 

Did I get the punctuation wrong?

 

 

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[WiWavelength]

UMTS or is it umts or UMT-S

 

Did I get the punctuation wrong?

 

You got the whole thing wrong.

 

It is not "universal."

 

And it is W-CDMA.

 

 

AJ

[lou99/maximus1987]

You got the whole thing wrong.

 

It is not "universal."

 

And it is W-CDMA.

 

 

AJ

We already have 2 carriers with nationwide networks; what else do you want?

 

 

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[bigsnake49]

Don't want to be a spoil sport especially on the 700 MHz but I will be. Primary users for the 700 MHz band at first was for public safety, until Verizon and AT&T started throwing there weight around and saying let's share in which the FCC said ok  but under certain conditions. For example, here are some users in the 700 MHz space with frequencies they are licensed for

 

 

 

 

These are just some examples. People have to think about the other users in the space of frequencies. It is not just CellPhones.

Yeah, they just started using and it came about right before the 700Mz auction. Actually they need to move all of PS away from 800MHz and put them on 700Mz, right next to the 700MHz public safety broadband allocation. That way Sprint can expand to 10x10 in 800MHz.

[bigsnake49]

I was reading an article on Fierce Wireless about Verizon, where one of the commenters mentioned that in Florida, Verizon has only six towers covering three counties, which sounds absurd to me, but is this even remotely true?

While I can't dispute that, Verizon's coverage in Florida is excellent!

[Arysyn]

While I can't dispute that, Verizon's coverage in Florida is excellent!

I'd imagine so. I'm a fan of Verizon Wireless, as they are always focusing on their network coverage and quality. Yet, my mother is reluctant on us ever getting Verizon because of price. However, Sprint's coverage and quality is getting much better and could close in as they further advance their 2.5ghz.

 

Now if Masa decided to spend big on the 600mhz auction, and win nationwide 10x10 or more of it, then Sprint would absolutely dominate wireless in the U.S.

[cortney]

We already have 2 carriers with nationwide networks; what else do you want?

 

Can you tell me the price of rice in China?

[lilotimz]

Can you tell me the price of rice in China?

 

Varies depending on locale and if you're getting domestic produced rice or imported rice. 

[greenbastard]

The US does not need to follow any other country. The US needs to lead -- like it used to do. Blaze the trail. Show the rest of the world how it is done. Build the Interstate Highway System, go to the Moon, establish the Internet, etc. The long term payoff is immense.

 

AJ

I'm pretty sure that Eisenhower got the idea of the interstate system from the Germans. We definitely didn't blaze the trail there. Maybe perfected it, but not blaze.

[WiWavelength]

I'm pretty sure that Eisenhower got the idea of the interstate system from the Germans. We definitely didn't blaze the trail there. Maybe perfected it, but not blaze.

 

In geographic area, Germany is about the size of one US state.  So, it is not all that apt of a comparison.  I built a wireless network across my property, but that does not make me the equal of Sprint, for example.  Size/degree is everything.

 

No other country has done what the US has done, can do, and should do across such an immense geographic area.  Capitalism needs to take a back seat to the greater good.  That is my point.

 

AJ

[runagun]

Then you would be called a socialist.  And be relegated as such. Sadly the greater good is whats best for my pocket book.  That's this worlds mentality.  JFK's quote has been reversed.  Its not what you can do for your country its what your country can do for you. 

In geographic area, Germany is about the size of one US state.  So, it is not all that apt of a comparison.  I built a wireless network across my property, but that does not make me the equal of Sprint, for example.  Size/degree is everything.

 

No other country has done what the US has done, can do, and should do across such an immense geographic area.  Capitalism needs to take a back seat to the greater good.  That is my point.

 

AJ

[lou99/maximus1987]

In geographic area, Germany is about the size of one US state. So, it is not all that apt of a comparison. I built a wireless network across my property, but that does not make me the equal of Sprint, for example. Size/degree is everything.

 

No other country has done what the US has done, can do, and should do across such an immense geographic area. Capitalism needs to take a back seat to the greater good. That is my point.

 

AJ

If you're still talking about wireless… vzw and att have already built nationwide networks.

 

 

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[WiWavelength]

If you're still talking about wireless… vzw and att have already built nationwide networks.

 

No, they have not.  Much of their networks they did not "build," and those networks are not "nationwide."

 

Or if it is your standard that they do have "nationwide" networks, then so do Sprint and T-Mobile.

 

AJ