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Long Island Network Vision/LTE Deployment schedule update


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by Robert Herron

Sprint 4G Rollout Updates

Wednesday, July 11, 2012 - 7:03 AM MDT

 

The next market in our Network Vision/LTE deployment schedule update series is...Long Island. Which I like to pronounce Lawn Guy-land. But I digress...the Long Island market has yet to be announced by Sprint, and may not be announced until as late as this Fall.

 

The Sprint Long Island market encompasses Nassau and Suffolk counties. This includes the cities of Hempstead, Levittown, Garden City, West Babylon, Freeport, Hicksville, Valley Stream, Islip, Long Beach, Huntington Station, Massapequa, Happaugue, the Hamptons and Montauk. Sprint's Network Vision OEM Alcatel/Lucent is scheduled to begin mobilizing their subcontractors around the market in November. The first completed Network Vision sites are scheduled to start coming online in December.

 

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Anticipated Sites Complete at Market Launch. According to the Network Vision schedules that S4GRU has reviewed, if Sprint launched the market in May, these are the anticipated sites that would likely have LTE complete at that time. This would provide fairly good LTE coverage over many parts of the market.

 

Schedule details and the bottom line

 

Sprint has not yet selected a date to formally "launch" LTE service in Long Island. It is difficult to try to pick a date now this far out, but we will try. In looking at the schedule as of today, it would indicate a May market launch (going on a 40% - 50% completion for launch). But there is no way to know if AlcaLu and their subcontractors will actually hit their schedule dates this early in the deployment for this market. We will be able to gauge better after a few months of production.

 

Alcatel/Lucent needs to hit a production rate of only 25 sites per month to stay on schedule. This is a pretty low amount compared to many markets. There is no reason why they should not be able to complete the market on time, and there is a good chance that they may even be able to get ahead of schedule.

 

S4GRU has examined the schedule in great detail in this market and sees that most of the sites will be complete by September 2013. However, there may be a few sporadic sites that will linger past the completion.

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Photo of Long Island provided courtesy of Wikimedia Commons.

 

NOTE: S4GRU Sponsor Members can track regular updates of

Network Vision sites completed nationwide. Completed sites are shown in an interactive Google Maps interface. Information about sponsorship can be found here: S4GRU Sponsorship

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I am getting really jealous of all of these posts as I know the Albuquerque market is so far out.

 

As a fellow New Mexican, I feel your pain. <sent from my office in Los Alamos>

 

Robert

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It is odd how LI got screwed over by Sprint.. WIMAX only made it to the western edges of Nassau County and now a year or so to get LTE... When I had my EVO, I was getting decent 4G is parts of Queens but once into Nassau, it vanished.. But it looks like it'll be there eventually... It seems like Sprint LTE will get to where I live earlier than where I visit..

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It is odd how LI got screwed over by Sprint.. WIMAX only made it to the western edges of Nassau County and now a year or so to get LTE... When I had my EVO, I was getting decent 4G is parts of Queens but once into Nassau, it vanished.. But it looks like it'll be there eventually... It seems like Sprint LTE will get to where I live earlier than where I visit..

 

They definitely didn't get priority in WiMax. However, being in the second round of NV, I certainly wouldn't categorize them as screwed this time. I think Long Island is getting fair placement, IMO.

 

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what's the deal with these 25 sites a month it should be no less then 40 a month

 

Let me give you some background info. The deployment speed is not determined based on some guy in Overland Park who deems some markets worthy of being deployed faster than others. The biggest factor in market deployment speed is the backhaul being installed ahead of Network Vision.

 

In the instance of Long Island, the schedule completes around September 2013. And since backhaul runs about 45 days ahead of a site being complete, we know that backhaul work will be complete in the market around August 1st. So backhaul deployment will run approximately from November 2012 - July 2013.

 

So there are two choices here. Sprint can hold off starting NV deployment in Long Island when there is enough backhaul deployed where they can produce 40 sites per month...or, they can get started right away behind the backhaul crews and deploy 25 sites per month.

 

With the slower production rate, right behind deployment crews, they can get sites coming online sooner. Customers want to see progress. Even at 25 sites per month, approximately 6 sites are going live every week. If they wait until they can produce 40 sites per month, they will not start the market until March.

 

I think customers would rather they start in November, than to start in March. Since the finish date is going to be the same either way.

 

Hopefully this helps to explain the situation.

 

Robert

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At this point, I'd settle for 3G that worked during the daytime and didn't constantly time out due to capacity issues.

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At this point, I'd settle for 3G that worked during the daytime and didn't constantly time out due to capacity issues.

 

3G improvements will still occur over the market in advance of Network Vision. These can be tracked at network.sprint.com

 

Robert

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Interesting map; more people live in Suffolk County (appx 1.5 million) than Nassau (1.34 million), yet Nassau is getting about twice as many installations as Suffolk.

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hey s4gru can please update us on whats going on with long island you know like after hurricane sandy what percent of site complete and rough estimate of when we should be seeing lte coverage ?? i would really appreciate it as im sure alot of long islanders would .

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It doesn't look like anything is going on on LI. The coverage map, as per Sensorly http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/2906-sprint-lte-coverage-maps-via-sensorly/ shows some coverage at a very tiny portion of the Queens/Nassau border, and absolutely nothing for the rest of Nassau and all of Suffolk.

 

Now if they had tested any equipment, one would think there would be a data point in Nassau and Suffolk. Hey, we only have over 2.8 million people, you would think someone other than me would have loaded the Sensorly app and found 4g.

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It doesn't look like anything is going on on LI. The coverage map, as per Sensorly http://s4gru.com/ind...s-via-sensorly/ shows some coverage at a very tiny portion of the Queens/Nassau border, and absolutely nothing for the rest of Nassau and all of Suffolk.Now if they had tested any equipment, one would think there would be a data point in Nassau and Suffolk. Hey, we only have over 2.8 million people, you would think someone other than me would have loaded the Sensorly app and found 4g.

 

There about 3 dozen sites converted all the way across the island past the Hamptons. However, LI is an Alcatel Lucent market. A/L starts their market upgrades with the 3G side first, and after they get about 30% of the market complete, they start bringing online the LTE side too. It is probably another 30-45 days until the first LTE sites start firing up on LI. Ericsson and Samsung markets are handled differently.

 

Robert

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