Jump to content

Samsung Galaxy S8 & Dual Sim/Duos


Andrew Revering

Recommended Posts

I think snapdragon 835 and x16 modem are not great but average in s8.Hpue not impressed.

 

A chipset and its baseband modem likely do not define handset RF performance.

 

AJ

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Then why does B41 perform worse than on Note 5?

Because the S8 may have a weaker RF design than the Note 5 which causes it to perform worse.

 

Every device has a different RF design which may make it better, worse, or equivalent to predecessors or related.

 

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Because the S8 may have a weaker RF design than the Note 5 which causes it to perform worse.

 

Every device has a different RF design which may make it better, worse, or equivalent to predecessors or related.

 

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

If you owned Samsung corp, why would the owner not fire the first engineer that put a new phone out that performed worse than the previous phones. Why should the RF be worse on a new phone?  I would be asking questions.  There may be a good reason, but I sure would need an explanation.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If you owned Samsung corp, why would the owner not fire the first engineer that put a new phone out that performed worse than the previous phones. Why should the RF be worse on a new phone? I would be asking questions. There may be a good reason, but I sure would need an explanation.

I remember one Verizon Galaxy note variant was a spectacular failure in the past. I think Robert had experience with it.

 

Let's also think this through.

 

The galaxy S8 is a universal model so it supports every carrier. What it doesn't support is B41 4x4 so we know Samsung is lacking on that front.

 

If that's the case, could it be possible that decided to not extremely optimize the B41 portion since it seems to be an egregious afterthought considering other 835 devices have 4x4 support for B41.

 

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On top of that HPUE is a gimmick no difference, there needs to be some serious optimization done because in its current form it's broken.

 

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

To me in my opinion HPUE does not live up to the claims that Sprint has made.

 

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I remember one Verizon Galaxy note variant was a spectacular failure in the past. I think Robert had experience with it.

 

Let's also think this through.

 

The galaxy S8 is a universal model so it supports every carrier. What it doesn't support is B41 4x4 so we know Samsung is lacking on that front.

 

If that's the case, could it be possible that decided to not extremely optimize the B41 portion since it seems to be an egregious afterthought considering other 835 devices have 4x4 support for B41.

 

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

Does the S8 at least support 4x2 mimo? I thought all Sprint LTE devices supported 4x2 mimo and, 64qam

 

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

To me in my opinion HPUE does not live up to the claims that Sprint has made.

 

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

I agree I kinda wanna go back to my Note 5, and I might. My nephew wants an S8+ I might give him mine and stick it out a bit longer lol.

 

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I agree I kinda wanna go back to my Note 5, and I might. My nephew wants an S8+ I might give him mine and stick it out a bit longer lol.

 

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Does the Note 5 support CA at all?

 

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I agree I kinda wanna go back to my Note 5, and I might. My nephew wants an S8+ I might give him mine and stick it out a bit longer lol.

 

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

The note 8 might have good band 41 since it is looking like it will have 4x4 MIMO on b41 but idk the Note 7 was also disappointing on b41.

 

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The note 8 might have good band 41 since it is looking like it will have 4x4 MIMO on b41 but idk the Note 7 was also disappointing on b41.

 

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Too big unfortunately, S8+ is pushing the threshold loo.

 

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The note 8 might have good band 41 since it is looking like it will have 4x4 MIMO on b41 but idk the Note 7 was also disappointing on b41.

 

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

No it doesn't. Same setup as the S8.

 

 

 

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

No it doesn't. Same setup as the S8.

 

 

 

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

Band 41 MIMO doesn't seem like it's that important this year. Next year it should be though. I just wonder if Sprint will allow 4x4 B25 MIMO on the S8 or not. Sometimes the phone is capable but Sprint never enables the features. Seeing as the FCC tested it. I hope a software update comes around to enable.

 

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I will stick with s8 until s9 or note 8 review is out. I agree I though s8 was going be better band 41 phone with so called 30 percent better coverage with hpue .note 5 still king of band 41 in my book.Is lg g6 any better than s8 rf.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I will stick with s8 until s9 or note 8 review is out. I agree I though s8 was going be better band 41 phone with so called 30 percent better coverage with hpue .note 5 still king of band 41 in my book.Is lg g6 any better than s8 rf.

Might as well wait til the S9. Apparently no b41 4x4 MIMO on Note 8.

 

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

They are not going launch any gigabit lte this year ,or if they do most of markets be low. I'm still waiting on 3xca in delaware. Been 2 years,since 2 x was launch.my next phone will be a great rf performer like note 5 was before I will buy it.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Band 41 MIMO doesn't seem like it's that important this year. Next year it should be though. I just wonder if Sprint will allow 4x4 B25 MIMO on the S8 or not. Sometimes the phone is capable but Sprint never enables the features. Seeing as the FCC tested it. I hope a software update comes around to enable.

 

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

 

will be coming in a future SW update.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don't get the obsession with needing such fast speeds on your phone. is going from 30 mbps to 100 mbps really going to make a difference on your cell phone? ...and that you have to base your phone buying decisions on it. Email, apps, even streaming works at any level of LTE just fine.

 

What are you guys doing that requires such speed?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I dont think we care to much about speed on galaxy phone , more like holding on band 41 longer than older model like note 5 or s 7 . Lot us on this thread had lot galaxy phones with better rf setups. So you think Samsung would improve on phone signal as phones tech grows.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don't get the obsession with needing such fast speeds on your phone. is going from 30 mbps to 100 mbps really going to make a difference on your cell phone? ...and that you have to base your phone buying decisions on it. Email, apps, even streaming works at any level of LTE just fine.

 

What are you guys doing that requires such speed?

Nope not true. Streaming on band 26 is definitely a bad experience with lots of 144p and buffering apps can't download anything either. Band 25 was just like that on 5x5. Basically 5x5 is a bad experience unless in a area with good band 41 or rural. There are plenty of sites still with a horrible experience because of this. No one is obsessed with needing 30-100mbps but rather obsessed with having consistently fast data so we can stream without buffer and actually download things at least reasonably fast. This is why I say unless b26 starts using CA like the other carriers this will never happen.

 

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nope not true. Streaming on band 26 is definitely a bad experience with lots of 144p and buffering apps can't download anything either. Band 25 was just like that on 5x5. Basically 5x5 is a bad experience unless in a area with good band 41 or rural. There are plenty of sites still with a horrible experience because of this. No one is obsessed with needing 30-100mbps but rather obsessed with having consistently fast data so we can stream without buffer and actually download things at least reasonably fast. This is why I say unless b26 starts using CA like the other carriers this will never happen.

 

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

I sent you a message while back did you see that? It involves band 26.

 

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • large.unreadcontent.png.6ef00db54e758d06

  • gallery_1_23_9202.png

  • Similar Content

  • Posts

    • Hopefully this indicates T-Mobile hasn't completely abandoned mmwave and/or small cells? But then again this is the loop, so take that as you will. Hopefully now that most macro activity is done (besides rural colo/builds), they will start working on small cells.   
    • This has been approved.. https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/fcc-approves-t-mobiles-deal-to-purchase-mint-mobile/  
    • In the conference call they had two question on additional spectrum. One was the 800 spectrum. They are not certain what will happen, thus have not really put it into their plans either way (sale or no sale). They do have a reserve level. Nationwide 800Mhz is seen as great for new technologies which I presume is IOT or 5g slices.  T-Mobile did not bite on use of their c-band or DOD.  mmWave rapidly approaching deadlines not mentioned at all. FWA brushes on this as it deals with underutilized spectrum on a sector by sector basis.  They are willing to take more money to allow FWA to be mobile (think RV or camping). Unsure if this represents a higher priority, for example, FWA Mobile in RVs in Walmart parking lots working where mobile phones need all the capacity. In terms of FWA capacity, their offload strategy is fiber through joint ventures where T-Mobile does the marketing, sales, and customer support while the fiber company does the network planning and installation.  50%-50% financial split not being consolidated into their books. I think discussion of other spectrum would have diluted the fiber joint venture discussion. They do have a fund which one use is to purchase new spectrum. Sale of the 800Mhz would go into this. It should be noted that they continue to buy 2.5Ghz spectrum from schools etc to replace leases. They will have a conference this fall  to update their overall strategies. Other notes from the call are 75% of the phones on the network are 5g. About 85% of their sites have n41, n25, and n71, 90% 5g.  93% of traffic is on midband.  SA is also adding to their performance advantage, which they figure is still ahead of other carriers by two years. It took two weeks to put the auction 108 spectrum to use at their existing sites. Mention was also made that their site spacing was designed for midrange thus no gaps in n41 coverage, while competitors was designed for lowband thus toggles back and forth for n77 also with its shorter range.  
    • The manual network selection sounds like it isn't always scanning NR, hence Dish not showing up. Your easiest way to force Dish is going to be forcing the phone into NR-only mode (*#*#4636#*#* menu?), since rainbow sims don't support SA on T-Mobile.
    • "The company’s unique multi-layer approach to 5G, with dedicated standalone 5G deployed nationwide across 600MHz, 1.9GHz, and 2.5GHz delivers customers a consistently strong experience, with 85% of 5G traffic on sites with all three spectrum bands deployed." Meanwhile they are very close to a construction deadline June 1 for 850Mhz of mmWave in most of Ohio covering 27500-28350Mhz expiring 6/8/2028. No reported sightings.  Buildout notice issue sent by FCC in March 5, 2024 https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/letterPdf/LetterPdfController?licId=4019733&letterVersionId=178&autoLetterId=13060705&letterCode=CR&radioServiceCode=UU&op=LetterPdf&licSide=Y&archive=null&letterTo=L  No specific permits seen in a quick check of Columbus. They also have an additional 200Mhz covering at 24350-25450 Mhz and 24950-25050Mhz with no buildout date expiring 12/11/2029.
  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...