Rawvega Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 October 23, 2013 | By Sean Buckley AT&T's decision to raise special access rates is drawing fire from a group of wireless operators and CLECs that say the move is an abuse of its dominant position. Competitive providers say that ILECs AT&T and Verizon collectively own about 80 percent of the special access market. Earlier this month, AT&T told its special access customers, which includes Sprint and tw telecom, in a letter that it would stop offering extended contracts and discounts for the special access lines they purchase to provide services to business customers and for wireless backhaul. Read more: Sprint, other competitive carriers rail against AT&T's special access rate increase - FierceTelecom http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/sprint-other-competitive-carriers-rail-against-atts-special-access-rate-inc/2013-10-23#ixzz2ie1lu06C Subscribe at FierceTelecom It'll be interesting to see how this plays out since ultimately any prices increases are eventually passed along to end users. (Bold emphasis mine) It's certainly an uphill battle when you're so beholden to two of your biggest competitors for such an integral part of your business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dave Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Looks like AT&T is scared of competition and trying hard to make it as difficult as possible for others that can potentially become a threat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaryTheLabelGuy Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Looks like AT&T is scared of competition and trying hard to make it as difficult as possible for others that can potentially become a threat. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swintec Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 if AT&T wants to get out of the TDM type services by 2020 why would they want to sign long term contracts anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaryTheLabelGuy Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 if AT&T wants to get out of the TDM type services by 2020 why would they want to sign long term contracts anymore? The question is: why? Why would they want to get out of the TDM services business? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraydog Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 AT&T wants out of the TDM business because it's a crazy cost infrastructure to maintain. Their TDM infrastructure is literal garbage. For a long time, AT&T had serious reliability issues due to TDM. When AT&T moved to IP backhaul, their reliability approved by leaps and bounds. What kills me here is why Sprint can't start slowly weaning themselves off most of the AT&T backhaul they use. I know that can't happen overnight, but in 3-4 years I think they could be free of most of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 AT&T wants out of the TDM business because it's a crazy cost infrastructure to maintain. Their TDM infrastructure is literal garbage. For a long time, AT&T had serious reliability issues due to TDM. When AT&T moved to IP backhaul, their reliability approved by leaps and bounds. What kills me here is why Sprint can't start slowly weaning themselves off most of the AT&T backhaul they use. I know that can't happen overnight, but in 3-4 years I think they could be free of most of it. What areas are known AT&T backhaul? I can't think of any off the top of my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 What areas are known AT&T backhaul? I can't think of any off the top of my head. Sprint uses a lot of it here even though Cox is readily available and quicker to install. Must have been a higher price though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Sprint uses a lot of it here even though Cox is readily available and quicker to install. Must have been a higher price though. Cox is readily available down there, huh? I'm sure there is some factor that's making them use AT&T if Cox appears to be the better option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Cox is readily available down there, huh? I'm sure there is some factor that's making them use AT&T if Cox appears to be the better option. Cox Communications that is but... Errrr.. Nevermind I already said the factor, cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Cox Communications that is but... Errrr.. Nevermind I already said the factor, cost. You inferred that you didn't know the reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 You inferred that you didn't know the reason. Don't know their terms, only seen quotes for other businesses. AT&T was cheaper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dave Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Don't know their terms, only seen quotes for other businesses. AT&T was cheaper. Not for long... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Not for long... Who's going to provide backhaul for AT&T LTE sites then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dave Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Who's going to provide backhaul for AT&T LTE sites then? Either the fiber fairy or the backhaul goblin. I don't know about rates, but in Florida, there is FPL fibernet, Comcast, Verizon, TWC, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 AT&T provides a lot of backhaul to Sprint in Texas, the South, Florida and California. Think of the former SBC companies...BellSouth, Southwestern Bell (SBC) and Pacific Bell. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdob07 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 At least a hand full of sites here in Louisville use AT&T for backhaul. Probably more but most of them it's hard to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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