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I am betting end of 2015. Or late 2015 at least. They need to get spark deployed in most major cities in each market, then focus on expansion sites and having higher cell density.

For the zero down argument youvhave to pay sales tax up front, plus if you are on ASL you pay a good chunck plus sales tax so sprint isnt out more money if you leave. For example I am ASL and a new phone on Easy pay (gs5) would cost $199 + full price sales tax up front, compared to going to target or bestbuy and getting it sub $99. Out the door cost for alot of customers will not be $0 + tax due to credit requirements.

When we explain it exactly how the ATT rep says and tells us to explain, then it falls back on ATT. When we tell the usually person this same line they feel like they are getting charged more. They see they pay $700 for a phone, instead of $199. They lose all interest at this point. It is a numbers gain and seeing a huge number like $700 is a turn off for consumers who are used to seeing below $200.

Every person I see upgrading and using next is more confused than before. Their pricing scheme makes no sense even after explained. I just tell people if they save money or not because thats what they wanna hear. Ever customer that get offered these plans gets furious that they are trying to force them by paying for the full phone cost , even if the subsidized phone cost is baked into their plan, and the new model keeps them seperate. People are more confused than ever in this market.

People will be unhappy. I can guarantee one of the big two if not both will still offer these subsidized phones. It will bring people over from the others that dont offer two year contracts. Unless there is a much larger movement the big 2 will keep subsidized devices. Also we have been through this before with talks of removing subsidies.

People refuse to do edge and next every day. I see it and hear its because they dont want to pay the full cost of the phone. Even if you tell the average customer the truth of it all they still will go with the subsidiary phone. People even have switched carriers because so and so forced their Next, Edge, and pay for your phone each month plan. The market isnt ready to completely abandon the 2 yr subsidized phone plan just yet.

I still think the phones will cost. $600-$800 because people will only see the monthly payment cost/total bill being the same (on newer plans with unsubsidized rate cuts). Until all 4 carriers drop subsidies, prices will remain high. Also for older plans they would see a prige hike for device cost compared to new plans which would cause people to leave if they are forced to new plans. Not everyone likes change (older people mostly)

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Can we get this compared to the sensorly data? Would be a ni e comparison! Thanks for this though looks nice!

This happened on the note 3 and M8 as well for me. Its an android bug that I guess. It will say a type of connection, and no signal bars but data works. Engineering screens show void info as well when it happens to me.

Sometimes I have to wait a day or two after a bill to fully pay the bill amount, so It can sometimes cause NSF fees, and its not right for everyone. I like giving authorization each time I need to pay, so I have everything in check.

Sounds about right. I even showed them previous receipts of not being required a deposit, and they refused to refund my money that was taken out without authorization. But a call from the store got them to credit that amount back on my bill, thankfully.

yeah i can see that. Ive had a few issues with my account before like being charged hidden deposits without any information confirming a deposit. Must be system errors

They keep trying to tell me it only gets reviewed once a year and is done by the system, they dont like people leaving ASL.

That sounds dirty

Hmm I wonder If Target will allow me to stick these on their routers not that anyone will see them on the ceiling

That is the only issue I had, I would of been happy being throttled to 1mbps which is below their LTE advertised speeds, but definitely usable

But it still is unlimited even at slower speeds? If my math was correct even at .01mbps streamed 24/7 for 30 days equals to about 24-25K Mb which is still above what the average user uses. The point of unlimited data is to allow consumers to not have to worry about getting charged for using X GB or MB over their allotment. They still accomplish that with throttling.

There is no need to throttle speed for those users because they watch their data more so than Unlimited Data users. There has to be a checks and balances system for even sprint and ATT. I am not going to complain about throttling, Network optimization, on sprint if or when it happens. ATT users were given notice, I know I did. IF we are going after ATT then go after all Unlimited data advertisers who Throttle. T-mobile Throttles you, Sprint does on certain sectors. I dont agree that ATT throttled to a usable speed, but it is done so that one user isnt using killing the experience for hundreds. Maybe it would be best for ATT to kill of all unlimited plans. Contract or not, the people that complain will leave or deal with it. ATT can do that for the better of the network which the people signed was ok.

Cable co's advertise x Mbps down, but in fine print you cant read state up too and they have not been in trouble for not providing X Mbps every second of every day. All unlimited means is they do not charge you per GB which is still true at 50mbps or .05 mbps. You still get unlimited data. They can easily force all unlimited users to only be able to access edge, and give them Unlimited data. Because they dont have to give every customer LTE or even HSPA+. They can shift people around as they see fit. It is their network after all. And people have had plenty of time to leave if they didnt like the throttle policy.

There is a limit on what unlimited actually is. They can just as well as limit the speeds they can use and technically the user is getting unlimited data. The thing about unlimited data is they dont say you get unlimited highspeed data. It is all about wording.

Wouldn't ATT dropping unlimited cause a violation of TOS? If you arr in the middle of contract, and your plan changes and causes a monetary chamge which going from unlimited to a set data limit could cause, it would allow people out of contracts? Good for sprint and Tmobile, but doubtful ATT would risk that. It could get away with it if you are no longer on contract or somehow are on ATT next with unlimited data.

The only reason East texas even has Tmobile LTE is due to Metropcs conversion. MetroLTE had LTE here first, spotty at that but thats the same 4-5 sites they use for 100k+ population.

When I had ATT unlimited I always remember getting notices about being throttled. Im guessing some others werent so lucky.

So you are forcing the phone into band 26 only basically. Which is why it works