S4GRU Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 So with NV and the 800mhz band' date=' we won't see better data building penetration until LTE? From what I'm reading we'll only benefit from 1x... to me that doesn't sound so good for "better data" but I could be wrong as I'm no expert on networks etc... speeds of .2 - .5 are just absurd and basically not useable. Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2[/quote'] You are correct. Better voice and 1x penetration with 800 CDMA in NV deployments in 2012 and 1st half of 2013. Second half of 2013 NV deployments will have 800 LTE and then they will start adding it to existing NV sites. Robert via Kindle Fire using Forum Runner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niv3d Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 You are correct. Better voice and 1x penetration with 800 CDMA in NV deployments in 2012 and 1st half of 2013. Second half of 2013 NV deployments will have 800 LTE and then they will start adding it to existing NV sites. Robert via Kindle Fire using Forum Runner Thanks!! So I'll be waiting on 800mhz LTE for another year or more since I'm in the Orlando market huh? Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Slaughter Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 The only thing that you would miss out on is the increased signal propigation that LTE over 800mhz would give. It will be years before the 2600mhz is used for offloading capacity and that will be spotty anyway. Sprint will not be restricted on capacity over 1900mhz LTE for quite some time. By the time Sprint needs to offload usage to 2600mhz in large markets, most people will be already upgrading again. Generally, if you have good coverage with 1900 EVDO, you will have good coverage with 1900 LTE and shouldn't need to worry about 800 LTE capability. It would be, however, very nice to have 800 LTE capability on a phone. years???? I can't see that as Clearwire is set up to have a ton of towers lit up by June next year...would think that Sprint would be incorporating that band then for use too, esp with Qualcomm officially saying they are adding support for Clears TDD band in their chips soon too this year...shouldn't be much of an issue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordsutch Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 There should be some building penetration benefit at 1900 on CDMA/EVDO from NV, since they're getting a 20% improvement in signal strength from moving the radio hardware to the top of the towers. What's not particularly clear is whether LTE will outperform EVDO in building penetration. LTE will be in the higher-frequency PCS G block (compared to A-F for 1900 EVDO) at first, which is slightly shorter in wavelength so the signals themselves would have lower penetration, but I don't know off-hand which is better at the same frequency. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Slaughter Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 My take: Clearwire TDD to Sprint FDD handoffs will not be seamless and will not need to be seamless. In the beginning, both will carry just data, which does not require a consistent, isochronous connection. Even with the eventual adoption of VoLTE, only Sprint LTE will carry voice; I expect Clearwire TD-LTE to remain data only. AJ I agree here with what your saying....unless Sprint buys out Clearwire fully and then the subnet b/w the two is the same i dont see how you could handoff seamlessly b/c you will get one IP address when you are on Clear's network and then a totally different one when you are handed off to Sprints network... I can see how Youtube might seem seamless in the handoff to an extent b/c of the buffer and all, but consider doing a basic file download...during the handoff I can't see how the file download would not get corrupt or end in this case b/c of the different IP's...no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpeatridge Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 In 2012, Sprint starts deploying a 1xAdvanced carrier in 800 SMR during Network Vision. This allows better signal propagation for voice and 1x data for devices that are 800 CDMA capable (not the iPhone). In Mid 2013, Sprint will start deploying 800 LTE. This will allow high speed data to have better propagation. However, Sprint has no plans to put 3G EVDO on 800. They do not have enough spectrum to put more than 1x and LTE on 800. And in some markets, they don't have enough to even put LTE on 800 (or will have to use a smaller carrier). AJ is working on an article this week on 800 deployment info. Robert via NOVO7PALADIN Tablet using Forum Runner I was reading the iPhone 4s box and it says it's compatible with CDMA 800/1900 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenChase7 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I was reading the iPhone 4s box and it says it's compatible with CDMA 800/1900 99% sure that does not include Sprints 800smr, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I was reading the iPhone 4s box and it says it's compatible with CDMA 800/1900 Look up the FCC testing, it does not support Sprint's SMR frequencies. It starts at 824MHz, which is technically 850 Cellular. There are some OEM's who refuse to change from referring Cellular bands as 800. Robert via Kindle Fire using Forum Runner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphnasx Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 So I'm thinking about switching from Verizon to Sprint. I am in the Denver Colorado market, so we have not been announced for any LTE in the near future. I will be out of my verizon contract on May 16th, and am trying to decide on phones. I'm kinda wondering if it may be better to get a Wimax phone since it doesn't look like we will be getting LTE soon. The maps show that the WIMAx is pretty good in the Denver area. Is there anybody on here that lives in Denver and can comment on Wimax coverage? I'm new to the whole smartphone thing. This will be my first and want to enjoy it. If I do get a Wimax phone should I get a galaxy 2 or a photon or a HTC EVO. If people think I should go LTE phone I'll probably wait for the EVO LTE or the Galaxy 3. If u do plan to switch, here is Sprint Employee Discount link Sprint Employee Discount Plan. Anyone can use this link! Copy & Paste Link: http://delivery.sprint.com/m/p/nxt/epc/epclanding.asp Email: Russ.S.McGuire@Sprint.com ID: 383 Single Line: $70 a Month ($10 a month Cheaper than Sprint Retail Store) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niv3d Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 So can this be applied to existing plans? Or does a new contract have to be done? Those plans look glorious! Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadBroChillz Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 So can this be applied to existing plans? Or does a new contract have to be done? Those plans look glorious! Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2 They are only for new customers. you cannot have an existing account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphnasx Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Sprint Corp Discount http://sprint.p.delivery.net/m/p/nxt/dev/wdyw.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyroscott Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 years???? I can't see that as Clearwire is set up to have a ton of towers lit up by June next year...would think that Sprint would be incorporating that band then for use too, esp with Qualcomm officially saying they are adding support for Clears TDD band in their chips soon too this year...shouldn't be much of an issue... In large densely populated markets with good thorough coverage by Clearwire, it could be advantageous to have 2600 TDLTE compatibility. Many markets will take years to need the offloading. With new phones coming out that will offload usage, it will extend the amount of time that LTE over 1900 will deliver fast connection speeds. It will be years before 2600 LTE capability is NEEDED in a phone. It will be available sooner than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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