Jump to content

CES 2013 FiOS TV over LTE?


JustinRP37
 Share

Recommended Posts

I saw this from an article about Verizon FiOS at CES 2013 and wondered how they could ever broadcast live video over LTE when spectrum is hard to come by. I have FiOS service at home and have to say nothing beats fiber for home internet and tv. I just wish more companies would invest in infrastructure to provide for a more widespread fiber backbone.

 

Verizon everywhere

In his CES keynote, Verizon’s chairman and CEO Lowell McAdam indicated that FiOS TV won’t be limited to fixed line access in years to come. He said that Verizon may broadcast (multicast) live video over LTE in 2014. Mr. McAdam handed off a part of his presentation to a Ford Motor Company executive who described Ford’s Sync App link for smartphones – which indicated that

Verizon, and not just AT&T

, also has a focus on the connected car.

 

http://www.telecompetitor.com/ces-verizon-updates-fios-redbox-instant-to-meet-borderless-lifestyle-demands/

Link to comment
Share on other sites

When I think about the money we have spent bailing out companies since early 2008, we could have had a nationwide fiber network to every building in the country. Then the government can lease it out to any company, competitively, so any provider can offer service over it. I bet it could even pay for itself in a few years.

 

The internet should be treated like highways. And if there is a way to privatize access and make money, even better. So long as no one gets unfair access and dominate control.

 

Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Verizon is starting that now, with the deal they have with Microsoft for the Xbox, and the iPad app, etc. I love how I can watch FiOS TV in my room on my Xbox, or on my iPad, as long as I'm home.

 

This is just the next step.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I saw this from an article about Verizon FiOS at CES 2013 and wondered how they could ever broadcast live video over LTE when spectrum is hard to come by.

 

The article is almost certainly referring to LTE EMBMS, which is a broadcast rather than unicast method. Basically, all users have access to the LTE RBs that carry the live stream(s). In that way, the same 2 Mbps live video stream is delivered to as many users in the cell as needed while still using only 2 Mbps of the total throughput.

 

AJ

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

When I think about the money we have spent bailing out companies since early 2008, we could have had a nationwide fiber network to every building in the country. Then the government can lease it out to any company, competitively, so any provider can offer service over it. I bet it could even pay for itself in a few years.

 

The internet should be treated like highways. And if there is a way to privatize access and make money, even better. So long as no one gets unfair access and dominate control.

 

Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD

 

You could not have put it better. The area I live in is served by FiOS and Cablevision. Why people still pay more to be with Cablevision is a question I cannot answer. I had cable my whole life, but once I moved to NY, I signed up for FiOS and it is by far the best, most reliable internet I have ever had. The speed and reliability puts my work's network to shame. The video is also superior to cable. A better fiber backbone can only help strengthen the economy. After all day traders in Europe paid big bucks to have faster transatlantic cables to decrease network latency across the pond to help with stock trading.

 

In that way, the same 2 Mbps live video stream is delivered to as many users in the cell as needed while still using only 2 Mbps of the total throughput.

 

That is pretty cool. Do you think that they could actually put out a decent channel lineup this way, or would it be more for the mobile TV watcher with only a few of the most watched channels? I could also see the big networks demanding much larger contracts per sub for this type of flexibility.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That is pretty cool. Do you think that they could actually put out a decent channel lineup this way, or would it be more for the mobile TV watcher with only a few of the most watched channels? I could also see the big networks demanding much larger contracts per sub for this type of flexibility.

 

Possible but doubtful. Qualcomm's demo at CES was running four simultaneous H.264 streams, each at 1.9 Mbps and WVGA resolution. So, a decent channel lineup would quickly eat up much of the capacity of an LTE carrier downlink.

 

Rather, EMBMS is really designed for stadium, arena, and performance venue locations, where much of the audience would want to view the same one or two streams.

 

I would also like to see EMBMS used, if possible, to deliver cached but frequently updated web content. At an NFL game, a very large percentage of the data traffic is going to one of a few popular sports web sites (ESPN, Yahoo!, NFL.com, etc.). If the most popular pages on those sites could be cached and broadcast via EMBMS instead of delivered via unicast, it would free up quite a bit of LTE capacity.

 

AJ

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You could not have put it better. The area I live in is served by FiOS and Cablevision. Why people still pay more to be with Cablevision is a question I cannot answer. I had cable my whole life, but once I moved to NY, I signed up for FiOS and it is by far the best, most reliable internet I have ever had. The speed and reliability puts my work's network to shame. The video is also superior to cable. A better fiber backbone can only help strengthen the economy. After all day traders in Europe paid big bucks to have faster transatlantic cables to decrease network latency across the pond to help with stock trading.

/snip/

Cablevision works quite well for me since I only have Optimum Online(Basic tier 15/2). Most of my TV is via Hulu/Netflix/Aereo, This only cost me $30 a month(for 6 months, in which I can just call the and renew the deal since I live in a FiOS area). FiOS internet stand-alone is almost $60.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

Cablevision works quite well for me since I only have Optimum Online(Basic tier 15/2). Most of my TV is via Hulu/Netflix/Aereo, This only cost me $30 a month(for 6 months, in which I can just call the and renew the deal since I live in a FiOS area). FiOS internet stand-alone is almost $60.

 

I called Cablevision recently and threatened to switch to FiOS. As a result they are giving me all movie channels, Optimum Boost internet (30/5), and a multi room dvr for 140. Remember Optimum uses fiber too, they just don't run it into your home like Verizon does.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I called Cablevision recently and threatened to switch to FiOS. As a result they are giving me all movie channels, Optimum Boost internet (30/5), and a multi room dvr for 140. Remember Optimum uses fiber too, they just don't run it into your home like Verizon does.

 

That is true. The fiber runs to the headend. But, if your neighbors are data hogs, then you will experience a slow down. I love being able to negotiate though with both companies. You can definitely get better prices. Optimum is now giving those movie channels because FiOS has been doing that for a long time now. For $142 we have 50/25 internet, most movie channels, multi room dvr, and home phone (mainly for the telemarketers to call right at dinner or at the start of the Yankees or Rangers games grrr).

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share

  • large.unreadcontent.png.6ef00db54e758d06

  • gallery_1_23_9202.png

  • Similar Content

  • Posts

    • Update just showed up for both of my phones. So far I don't notice any difference, LTE TA is still reporting as 0, I was hoping the new routine might fix that. I sent a diag report from both phones in case you need any of that info. I'll let you know in a day or so if its crashing as frequently or not. 
    • A new SignalCheck Pro beta release is rolling out now, and should become available on Google Play shortly! Some notable changes: New "swipe to refresh" -- flick down on the main screen, and the data will "refresh" -- I put this in quotes because it will *not* force the modem to be polled (that's unfortunately not possible), but it will 'wake up' the app and display the latest information if for some reason your screen did not automatically update. I am still working on improving this. New cell identification methods for Android 12+ devices -- new routines are available in Android 12 and this is my first attempt at implementing them. I have not seen any changes positive or negative on my Pixel 6, but hopefully someone sees improvements. I will continue exploring these methods and adding new features as I get them working. Location service auto-restart -- if your location has not changed in 10 minutes, the background location service should restart itself. This is a work in progress that I intend to optimize during beta testing. Missing/invalid TAC values included in web uploads -- this will need some testing, because I can't replicate it myself. The option to log cells with missing TAC must be enabled for this to have an impact. Feedback welcome as always!
    • Another converted keep site: Sprint eNB 9436 -> T-Mobile eNB 895067 (40.60777246698788,-74.16199692361377) Looks like they're using the FFVV-65A-R2-V1 here, as well!   Edit: Also, I know this technically isn't NYC, but here's a Jersey City conversion. Not 100% sure on either eNB. Sprint eNB 105863 -> T-Mobile eNB 876452 (40.72265196811989,-74.08804945021805)
    • More confirmations incoming! T-Mobile eNB 880561 (40.74176835140717, -73.88364207139453)   Sprint eNB 6191 / T-Mobile eNB 880065 (40.71339007010928, -73.85695387371624) Confirmed this site but was unable to get a photo because the antennas are set back from the edge of the building. I could see them from super far away but there wasn't a good area for me to pull over and snap a pic.   Sprint eNB 6189 / T-Mobile eNB 877995 (40.71183894845567, -73.83529788316665)   Sprint eNB 253741 / T-Mobile eNB 875537/875538 (40.70170960850086,-73.83302208208359)   Sprint eNB 79912 / T-Mobile eNB 875989 (40.86349197342981, -73.923456682535) — — — — — T-Mobile eNB 880536 in the Bronx isn't a Sprint conversion but rather, T-Mobile changed the eNB when they upgraded the site. The nearest Sprint site at 40.8150405321864, -73.93010756429787 still has all of its antennas up and is literally within spitting distance of two other T-Mobile sites in an area that's very industrial as opposed to residential or commercial so a keep site isn't particularly necessary. You can see on Cellmapper that the old eNB stopped broadcasting about two days after the new eNB went live.  — — — — — Also wanted to add that I spotted AT&T C-band antennas quite a bit in both Queens and the Bronx. I would expect a summer C-band launch announcement from them because they're moving FAST. At least in my area, it seem like they're upgrading at a faster pace than Verizon is. Some more pics: AT&T eNB 116408 / T-Mobile eNB 42887 in Woodhaven. This one is interesting because T-Mobile upgraded this site but in the process didn't put any Ericsson n41 antennas. There are just two of the RFS antennas that we normally get.   AT&T eNB 112047, bad pic but the arrows on the billboard are pointing right at the C-band antenna lol   — — — — — Last edit I promise: I noticed T-Mobile submit a permit to convert the keep site I found in Staten Island (Sprint eNB 75141). I 100% guessed it's location since I connected to it literally 4.5 miles across the water while inside a building. Glad to see I was right!
    • Support for the -1 TAC is good to go now, so I'm ready whenever you are!
  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...