Now Globalstar wants to use their satellite spectrum for LTE

[bigsnake49]

Globalstar, a small satellite firm, wants the FCC to allow it to use its MSS spectrum for mobile broadband. Globalstar is the latest in a string of satellite companies looking to take advantage of the FCC's push to expand the amount and use of wireless spectrum.

Globalstar is licensed to provide mobile satellite service in the Big LEO band at 1610-1618.725 MHz (the "Lower Big LEO band" for uplink operations) and 2483.5-2500 MHz (the "Upper Big LEO band" for downlink operations). The company plans to partner with unnamed "terrestrial partners," or wireless carriers, to launch LTE service on its spectrum.

Read more: Globalstar urges FCC to let it use satellite spectrum for LTE, TLPS networks - FierceWireless http://www.fiercewir...4#ixzz2CIaROU2Y

 

Will Sprint be the one they will partner with? Clearwire, since their downlink band is adjacent to the 2.5GHz band?

Edited November 15, 2012 by S4GRU
Edited to conform with Article Quoting Guidelines

[bigsnake49]

BTW, Dish's spectrum just got approved by the 3GPP.

[WiWavelength]

BTW, Dish's spectrum just got approved by the 3GPP.

 

How so? Dish's S-band/AWS-4 spectrum already was designated LTE band 23.

 

AJ

[bigsnake49]

How so? Dish's S-band/AWS-4 spectrum already was designated LTE band 23.

 

AJ

 

 

3GPP Approves DISH Wireless Spectrum Standards

DISH calls on FCC to resist Sprint's effort to delay wireless competition, billions in investment, tens of thousands of U.S. jobs

ENGLEWOOD, Colo., Nov. 14, 2012 – The Third Generation Partnership Project (3GPP) working group yesterday approved the technical specifications that govern 40 MHz of broadband-ready wireless spectrum controlled by DISH (called Band 23), despite the objections of Sprint Nextel Corporation over the last 12 months. DISH urges the FCC to do the same.

Without 3GPP approval, wireless companies do not have the required technical blueprints needed to design and build everything from cellphone chipsets to broadband networks.

With 3GPP's standards now approved, DISH is poised to enter the wireless business as rapidly as possible, assuming favorable FCC approval of rules that will allow DISH to use the spectrum (which is already approved for satellite and terrestrial service) more efficiently for terrestrial wireless services for smartphones, tablets and computers.

"We applaud 3GPP for rightly concluding the Band 23 question," said Jeff Blum, DISH Senior Vice-President and Deputy General Counsel. "Now we call on the FCC to reject Sprint's proposals for AWS-4 rules that would re-open Band 23 and jeopardize DISH's ability bring its spectrum to market, and provide much needed wireless competition."

Over the past several months, Sprint, which is in the process of being acquired by Japanese-controlled wireless carrier Softbank, has petitioned the FCC to drastically reduce the power levels of DISH's spectrum to further Sprint's desire to acquire the neighboring H Block spectrum, which today is essentially a vacant lot with no current licensees or users.

Sprint's request would re-open DISH's 3GPP specifications, causing further delay to a process that DISH started more than 20 months ago – and further delaying billions of dollars of investment and the creation of tens of thousands of jobs.

"Sprint's position on the H Block would render useless 25 percent of DISH's uplink spectrum -- so that Sprint is positioned to merely gain the exact same amount of spectrum," said Blum. "This is a zero-sum approach that does not result in a net spectrum gain for the American consumer and creates no new jobs.

"Worse yet, it takes 5 MHz of spectrum out of the hands of a new market entrant and puts it in the hands of an incumbent that already has more than 200 MHz of wireless spectrum," said Blum. "This makes no sense at a time when the nation is enduring a spectrum crunch and would benefit from more wireless competition.

"Our nation is in a spectrum crisis; we are running out of the very resource our wireless economy needs to sustain its incredible growth," said Blum. "Sprint's plan does not deliver new spectrum nor create U.S. jobs; it take usable spectrum from a new entrant – DISH -- and conveniently positions an entrenched incumbent, Sprint, as the beneficiary.

"Sprint, through its actions at the FCC, is delaying wireless competition, billions of dollars of investment and tens of thousands of jobs that our economy needs.

Said Blum: "DISH's position is consistent with more than 20 years of FCC precedent. The AWS-4 rulemaking should be completed with the power levels that were recommended by the FCC in the notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) and supported by all commenters (other than Sprint), and which would not require DISH to effectively surrender 25 percent of its uplink capacity. The H Block should be subject to the same auction and rule making processes that have applied to other spectrum bands for decades. This approach will ultimately free up the H Block for its highest-and-best use based upon input from all interested parties, and will lead to more investment, more jobs, more competition and more spectrum for wireless consumers."

[JeffDTD]

Eh, I sort of wish the FCC would side with Dish but force them to guarantee a minimum build out, price points, and consumption allotments.

 

Charlie Ergen wants to be able to offer ISP solutions for rural customers. I fail to believe he is interested in competing with wired broadband pricing (think:clear) in the populous areas of the country.... No, it's a game of getting to broadband starved customers before AT&T or Verizon do.... And once they are there, offer just a little more than they do.

[bigsnake49]

Eh, I sort of wish the FCC would side with Dish but force them to guarantee a minimum build out, price points, and consumption allotments.

 

Charlie Ergen wants to be able to offer ISP solutions for rural customers. I fail to believe he is interested in competing with wired broadband pricing (think:clear) in the populous areas of the country.... No, it's a game of getting to broadband starved customers before AT&T or Verizon do.... And once they are there, offer just a little more than they do.

 

I think that they could offer fixed solutions to all of their customers, but one of the main things is that they can offer OTT/VOD solutions to people that are not their customers without going over their competitors wires.

[JeffDTD]

 

I think that they could offer fixed solutions to all of their customers' date=' but one of the main things is that they can offer OTT/VOD solutions to people that are not their customers without going over their competitors wires.[/quote']

 

I agree, they could do a lot with it short of being an ISP replacement. But thats not the justification being used in their appeals to the FCC. Its all about pricing, competition and fair spectrum usage. So, if the fcc sides with Dish on those grounds, please mandate they make competitive offerings to all customers.

[bigsnake49]

I really don't think that we really need a 5th provider of handset centric cellular service. They could address a different market such as tablets and laptops. Having both, I'm flabbergasted at how expensive the plans are. I also want somebody to address radio streaming/video streaming/internet gaming while in the car but unencumbered by the battery concerns of a handset. Security cameras/alarm monitoring/smart grid, etc could be another niche.

[JeffDTD]

I really don't think that we really need a 5th provider of handset centric cellular service. They could address a different market such as tablets and laptops. Having both' date=' I'm flabbergasted at how expensive the plans are. I also want somebody to address radio streaming/video streaming/internet gaming while in the car but unencumbered by the battery concerns of a handset. Security cameras/alarm monitoring/smart grid, etc could be another niche.[/quote']

 

Agree.

 

Im also appalled by the pricing for tablets and laptops.

[lou99/maximus1987]

Globalstar: Tests at FCC facility show successful TLPS implementation

 

http://www.fiercewireless.com/tech/story/globalstar-tests-fcc-facility-show-successful-tlps-implementation/2015-03-11

[bigsnake49]

Globalstar: Tests at FCC facility show successful TLPS implementation

 

http://www.fiercewireless.com/tech/story/globalstar-tests-fcc-facility-show-successful-tlps-implementation/2015-03-11

 

So basically licensed WiFi  .

[Deval]

Refresh my memory, but the issue has to do with H block interfering with G, correct?

[WiWavelength]

Refresh my memory, but the issue has to do with H block interfering with G, correct?

 

No, this is in and adjacent to the unlicensed ISM 2400 MHz band.

 

AJ

[Deval]

No, this is in and adjacent to the unlicensed ISM 2400 MHz band.

 

AJ

 

Oh ok, was wondering why Sprint was even getting involved.

[dnwk]

Oh ok, was wondering why Sprint was even getting involved.

 

A revenge from Dish

[WiWavelength]

A revenge from Dish

 

Revenge is a Dish best served cold.

 

AJ

[BenChase7]

Revenge is a Dish best served cold.

 

AJ

As said in one of my favorite movies by one of my favorite actors.

[kg4icg]

Oh but the saying AJ is referring to is from the 80's and Star Trek 2 The Wrath of Khan, and you have to get that Ricardo Monteban accent in there.

[WiWavelength]

Oh but the saying AJ is referring to is from the 80's and Star Trek 2 The Wrath of Khan, and you have to get that Ricardo Monteban accent in there.

 

Yes, like "the small Chrysler."

 

 

Damn, that thing is a boat, which probably got 11 mpg.

 

AJ

[S4GRU]

Yes, like "the small Chrysler."

 

 

 

Damn, that thing is a boat, which probably got 11 mpg.

 

AJ

With "Genuine Corinthian™ Leather".

[tommym65]

Yes, like "the small Chrysler."

 

 

Damn, that thing is a boat, which probably got 11 mpg.

 

AJ

 

With "Genuine Corinthian™ Leather".

 

I actually rented one for 2 weeks in Washington & Idaho about 1980 (OK, so I'm old).  It got about over 20 mpg, had an amazing and powerful engine, and those "Coreenthian" leather seats were outrageously comfortable.  It was a boat, but definitely a luxury liner.

 

[Topic?  What topic?  Was there a topic here???]

[S4GRU]