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leerage Member Level: eHRPD

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All, I was able to snap some photos of a before and after Network Vision upgrade. The site is KC03SW149 right outside of Manhattan Kansas. Enhanced 3G and LTE are up and running on this site. I will post those speedtests below.

 

Before Network Vision:

 

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After Network Vision:

 

 

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Another View:

 

 

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4G Speed Tests:

 

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Consistent 20+ mbps download and 10+ mbps upload.

 

 

Enhanced 3G:

 

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The enhanced 3G is definitely active. When I took the Before picture, I had also ran a speedtest and got under 100kbps.

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WiWavelength Member Level: LTE Advanced

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Very nice post. The Overland Park speed test server is a good choice. And thanks for showing everyone how great antenna pics should look.

 

AJ

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WiWavelength Member Level: LTE Advanced

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Post nv sites seem messier.

 

Legacy equipment sent modulated RF via coax to/from the antennas. Network Vision has to send demodulated digital data via coax or fiber to/from the RRUs and supply them with power.

 

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WiWavelength Member Level: LTE Advanced

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What's the round looking antenna in the post-NV picture?

 

A radome.

 

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Are these panels 1900/800 combined if so why do you think they didn’t take the others down but just rearranged them?

 

The legacy equipment is left on the cell site initially, then the contractor comes back and removes it several weeks later.

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They cannot take down or turn off the legacy network when they start installing panels, or there would be a one to two week period when the site would be dead. There must be a period when they both are installed on the tower. Additionally, they do not schedule removal of legacy equipment for at least 45 days after completion, to allow any issues to be worked out. That way, if there is a problem with the NV install, they can revert back to the legacy if they need to.

 

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They cannot take down or turn off the legacy network when they start installing panels, or there would be a one to two week period when the site would be dead. There must be a period when they both are installed on the tower. Additionally, they do not schedule removal of legacy equipment for at least 45 days after completion, to allow any issues to be worked out. That way, if there is a problem with the NV install, they can revert back to the legacy if they need to.

 

Robert via Samsung Galaxy S-III 32GB using Forum Runner

 

Way more specific than my answer...

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What is the best way to figure out where these towers are? I live in Manhattan KS and have been trying to figure out where I'm getting LTE and where I'm not. I have the netmonitor app but it doesn't always work for me. I looked at sprints network.sprint.com site and have it pretty narrowed down I think. I live right near where far right tower is on this graphic, but no LTE for me. I know if i drive around or go down to the middle of town, I can pick up LTE.

What other tools are good to use to test?

Thanks

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Well i meant more of a "boots on the ground" type method but you have a good point. This is a very handy/helpful site and I do appreciate it much.

 

Monitoring apps by themselves won't do you much good. First, understand that none of them are able to map LTE towers directly. The better ones do log and map CDMA sectors (typically 3 per tower) which may or may not be actual tower locations. (I use the CDMA Field Test app for that.) Even when they are not, they do map coordinates offset some distance around the towers, with sequential BSID values. So if you want to do a boots-on-the-ground survey, you still need S4GRU's map of the actual towers to see where they are. There are several threads discussing this issue here. Just search.

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What is the best way to figure out where these towers are? I live in Manhattan KS and have been trying to figure out where I'm getting LTE and where I'm not. I have the netmonitor app but it doesn't always work for me. I looked at sprints network.sprint.com site and have it pretty narrowed down I think. I live right near where far right tower is on this graphic, but no LTE for me. I know if i drive around or go down to the middle of town, I can pick up LTE.

What other tools are good to use to test?

Thanks

If you are around the mall in Manhattan, you are getting LTE from the tower I posted pics of. Just looking at your screenshot you posted, those tower locations are correct.
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If you are around the mall in Manhattan, you are getting LTE from the tower I posted pics of. Just looking at your screenshot you posted, those tower locations are correct.

Ya i know I get 4g down by the mall and down in the ville. It's very good speedwise for me also. Best speeds I've seen have been 32meg down/8 up.

 

Anywho, I just donated, and will search around here for some other tools to use.

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Post nv sites seem messier.

 

Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 2

 

Looks like AT&T's mess with all the wires on the bottom of the panel after they came through and did their RRU installs about 6-8 months ago.

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Looks like AT&T's mess with all the wires on the bottom of the panel after they came through and did their RRU installs about 6-8 months ago.

 

 

When I have a chance I'll have to take a Pic of a mess of cell site on Philly that has to be an AT&T site... it's on a 2 story building in center city and panels all hodge podged with RRU's and all kinds of stuff all over the place...

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The extra cables make the site look messy. Thanks for the picture. Any chance of having similar view for Samsung market and ALU?

I can dig around and find some. Someone just posted some good ones but I can't remember which thread I was in.
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