No ESMR-ready LTE Chipset yet?

Nope. Because of the regulatory-industrial complex and planned obsolescence, expect possible capabilities, such as LTE 800, only when necessary. So, probably not until next year.

AJ

Judging by the alledged dimensions, the front of the device will be 5.87 inches diagonally. I smell a Note size screen in the works. A screen of that size running IPS technology, I just may dehydrate from drooling.

Great write up as usual, I didn't even realize the quadcore variant was just a naked chip with no incorporated modems. Also, maybe I read this wrong but I thought the viper supported svdo, doesnt it?

Great write up as usual, I didn't even realize the quadcore variant was just a naked chip with no incorporated modems. Also, maybe I read this wrong but I thought the viper supported svdo, doesnt it?

The Viper does support SVDO.

Weird location for the EVDO antenna. My hand would be covering the bottom of the phone when using data. I understand other phones putting the 1x at the bottom. When it is up to your ear, your hand isn't covering the 1x antenna. When you are holding it for data usage, you are not covering the EVDO antenna.

Yes, the Viper does support SVDO. I was unintentionally conflating in my mind the multiple chipset design of the Viper and the lack of SVDO in the Galaxy Nexus. I have corrected the article. Thanks for pointing out the error.

What the multiple chipset design will affect likely is battery life, especially if the processor is quad core.

AJ

Since LTE hasn't even been announced for my area, SVLTE does me little good at the moment. So no SVDO=no buy for me. Too bad because I was very interested in this handset at one point. So close LG, but yet so far...

Judging by the alledged dimensions, the front of the device will be 5.87 inches diagonally. I smell a Note size screen in the works. A screen of that size running IPS technology, I just may dehydrate from drooling.

Looks like your going to be disappointed with the screen size (http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-Eclipse-4G-LTE-blocks-out-the-sun-at-the-FCC-before-moving-on-to-Sprint_id33214), but the rest of the phone sounds awesome, I cant wait to see it... and what a 28nm process will do for the battery life, even though it will be a quad core. I'm hoping that it has a great battery life, but as stated above, the multiple chipset design might negate all the benefit...

Don't get too caught up on the modem not being on the chip. The shrink in size is huge... think of it like this:

OG Evo 4G: 65nm CPU/65nm baseband. 4-5hours battery heavy use.

OG Epic 4G 45nm CPU/65nm baseband, 5 hours battery heavy use.

Epic Touch 32nm dual core CPU/65nm baseband, 6 hours battery heavy use

Razr LTE 45nm dual core CPU/45nm baseband, 6 hours battery heavy use

Galazy S3/Evo LTE 28nm dual core CPU/28nm baseband same chip, 8-9 hours

The older phones almost all used the Broadcom BCM4329 65nm baseband, and battery life got better with CPU die shrinks (partially offset by the change to dual cores). Especially interesting was the RAZR I had, it had a worse CPU die size, but smaller baseband, and was nearly identical to the more efficient CPU in the epic touch with bad basebane. FWIW... when I turned WiMax off on the Epic Touch, battery life was REALLY good (like 10 hours), vs LTE off on the Razr didn't help as much. The fact that the Galaxy S3 is so good isn't just that the modem is on the same chip, but the modem is ALSO 28nm. Whether or not it's on the same chip with the CPU or not I feel will make less difference than the die shink to 28nm, so the LG phone will do great. It will be hurt by the quad core too though, but I would expect battery life between the GS2 and GS3 with a good battery (2000+mah). Just my $0.02

The older phones almost all used the Broadcom BCM4329 65nm baseband...

Thanks for the comment. But you seem to be confusing Wi-Fi basebands with cellular basebands. The Broadcom chipset is just a Wi-Fi baseband, so its effect on the handsets in question is minimal, and all have other cellular basebands. The EVO LTE and Galaxy S3 take matters to the extreme, as they incorporate processor, cellular, Wi-Fi, and GNSS baseband all on the 28 nm Qualcomm MSM8960.

Whether or not it's on the same chip with the CPU or not I feel will make less difference than the die shink to 28nm, so the LG phone will do great. It will be hurt by the quad core too though, but I would expect battery life between the GS2 and GS3 with a good battery (2000+mah). Just my $0.02

With all due respect, that seems nothing more than optimistic speculation. At this point, we do not even know what quad core processor the Eclipse will utilize. It could still be the 40 nm Tegra 3. And that could be paired with a 45 nm cellular baseband, possibly even a separate LTE baseband of who knows what nm process.

My point is this: do not assert that "the LG phone will do great." The level of info available right now does not support that conclusion.

AJ

My mistake, I thought the broadcom was also used for cellular and not just Wi-Fi. I guess this makes sense, as the gs3 doesn't utilize the on chip Wi-Fi/Bluetooth/fm in the 8960 instead using a separate chip compared to the one x, although this doesn't seem to affect battery much. And I'm almost positive the LG ls970 was confirmed via leaked tech specs to have the apq 8064 with the mdm9615 modem (both 28nm) in July, maybe it's wrong to believe that but from Qualcomm's own timetable it fits well... although all this is speculation at this point still, and my post was all simply based on my experience with those phones and is not in any way scientific.

Question: So I checked out the bandwidth range of this new quad core and it looks like it will also handle Clearwire's 168 mbps download speed. Is this correct?

Question: So I checked out the bandwidth range of this new quad core and it looks like it will also handle Clearwire's 168 mbps download speed. Is this correct?

No, the quad core processor is irrelevant, as it appears this LG design will utilize separate application processor and modem chipsets. Only the modem, RF transceiver, power amps, and antennas define airlink capabilities.

Regardless, the Eclipse will not be compatible with Clearwire's WiMAX network, and no info so far indicates that it will be compatible with Clearwire's forthcoming TD-LTE 2600 network. Do not expect those handsets until next year at the earliest.

AJ

I wonder... with the 800Mhz band and the 850Mhz band being essentially one single band, does it really makes sense to provide two sperate figures for each, particularly since the "extension" of the cellular band to include the SMR band is only 10Mhz? Seems kind of silly that for CDMA operating under ESMR the FCC just doesn't go ahead and count it all as one single band. I can see back in the days when iDEN, with its guard bands and everything that you'd want to separate the two bands, but if you're gonna be deploying the same technology in ESMR as in the cellular band, the FCC should give Sprint a break. That might also convince other carriers to include Sprint's band on their phones and Sprint could generate some roaming revenue from that.

GoWireless, this is not an FCC issue. The FCC creates different spectrum band plans with different purposes, rules, etc., but the FCC does not create different bands/band classes. Engineering bodies (e.g. 3GPP and 3GPP2) are responsible for those distinctions. And 3GPP is working to consolidate some LTE bands into superset bands. For example, when Sprint deploys LTE 800, it will be band 26, which is a roll up of bands 5, 6, 18, and 19.

AJ