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My wife and I heard it from multiple towers yesterday that have already had NV 3g completed. I would think it was a glitch... Sent from my EVO LTE

3 inches is huge for fiber bundle. That sounds more like the interduct that the fiber cable is run in. It usually is shared with aav service unless the bandwidth sprint asks for is more than the fiber can support. One pair of fiber should be well more than enough though. 10 Gb/s would not be unreasonable for max bandwidth on a pair of single mode fiber. 1 gig per pair is more common though. Sent from my EVO LTE

"No electricity was going though any of those cables" I guess they were kind of right... I wish I knew why our voice circuits go down sometimes. Usually how it goes with at&t is this: At&t - "Sorry for your outage last night with one of your PRIs , I created a ticket (ticket number) Me - "Thanks, please don't do any intrusive testing until tonight ." At&t - OK. I will note that in the ticket. 10 minutes later one at a time all our PRIs go out of service for testing. Sigh.... Back somewhat on topic, are there different circuits for voice and data at a cell tower? Sent from my EVO LTE

Trying to bend a 50 pair direct burial copper cable to splice is hard enough... I can only imagine how thick and hard to manage a cable like that would be... Sent from my EVO LTE

The day we moved over to sprint DC was the only day we had service so bad we had to fall back on our radios. DC didn't work well after that until last week when we ran a phone update. Since then it has worked well. On your duraxt go into tools - update phone - update firmware and it pulls down the new software over the air. Sent from my EVO LTE

I guess I will tell you my story... Our migration was forced since they shut down the iden tower serving our work area. They gave me a three week notice and I saw no choice but to proceed. The migration itself was a disaster. Sprint was very supportive and helped as much as our account rep could , however apparently Sprint activation servers and DC servers were so overwhelmed (probably because many customers were doing the same thing) it made it really tough on us. The first day we actually had to fall back on our old two way radios. As time went on they did get a little better, however anyone that used the duraxt for DC wanted to throw it against the wall. DC on it was a test in patience. Many times DC calls would error out, and we make a lot of group connect calls and that really was a struggle. Two people would be standing right next to each other, with a really strong signal, and only one of them would get the groupconnect call. The tower we hit has a fast download speed (900k) however the upload for some reason is pathetic (15k or so). I knew that was not right, and was probably why the DC was horrible... It started happening when the tower was network visioned. I tried to create multiple network tickets but they would get closed immediately because we were in an active network vision area. Then a firmware upgrade came out for the duraxt and I immediately applied it to our 300 or so phones. DC now works like a dream and people are finally happy. Group DC actually works much better than nextel group connect worked. DC is actually comperable to nextel, although in my experience it is maybe a second slower with the initial connection then iden was. I honestly see no difference in speed or quality in DC when roaming on 3g or on sprints network. 1x makes response a bit slower then evdo but it is just as clear. Overall I am impressed with it now, but I really wonder why such a horrible firmware release made it out on the devices. If the phone roamed at all it would not switch back to sprints network, ever (really sprint?!) They almost lost us as a customer. It is nothing like the original qchat that sprint introduced a few years ago. Much, much better. Sent from my EVO LTE

I am not sure about what time they work on towers however any maintainance that downs a tower will be preformed at night. Although a lot of the prep work for NV on a tower is done during the day, the actual switchover from legacy to NV occurs always at night. Sent from my EVO LTE

If you move from iden to Sprint CDMA you get upgrade pricing regardless on when you purchased the phones. To leave Sprint while still under contract you almost need to prove that they are not holding up their end of the contract. As you said, filing all sorts of network tickets is one way, or unrepairable device issues... I operate 300 DuraXTs. What phones are you testing and what do you think of Sprint DC so far? Sent from my EVO LTE

Are different sites on evdo and 1x necessarily bad? I have seen that happen more then once, especially when your phone is receiving two distant sites at about the same signal strength, especially if their are a lot of evdo users on one tower. Sent from my EVO LTE

My personal experience with my evo lte is you need to loose pretty much all the pcs signal before it switches to the SMR band. Once my phone acquired the SMR band it held onto it for a while even when I moved into an area that I could get pcs. Eventually it switched back. Sent from my EVO LTE

Everyone needs to keep in mind that we have a ton more information on this site than sprint would like us to have. Hell, we have more information then most mid level corporate Sprint sales people do. Without the knowledge we get at this site if sprint launched a market we would have no clue how many cell towers actually were completed and what percentage areas were launched at. Keep that in mind before we go after Sprint with pitchforks and torches. Based on the original dates that were published on this site for Chicago, it looks like sprint was starting with spotty coverage throughout the area with 3g/4g upgrades and gradually filling in the holes. With that method a lot of us would have had 4g coverage from a further away tower than the local one when launched. With the huge problems they had it appears like they are moving in lines now covering entire areas at a time and converting every tower. Because of sprint having to completly change the way Chicago was rolled out I really think it will be winter before we get 4g. I hope I am wrong. I am really not trying to sound like I am coming down on anyone, I just like to keep things in perspective. Sent from my EVO LTE

Based on the audio quality I doubt it uses that much bandwidth. It is good enough to be useful, but hardly hi-def. It does look like from the ##data settings that there is some sort of QoS where it may bump other traffic out of the way. Sent from my EVO LTE

It is back and working. Sent from my EVO LTE

I know as much as you do in regards to what happened. Our service is still down so the estimated time to repair we were given was wrong. All I know is someone's day is going much worse than mine. What phones are you using. The dura xt phones we have are working OK. Sent from my EVO LTE

It is a nationwide outage. This is the first time it has happened as far as I am aware. We heard it should be back up within the hour. Sent from my EVO LTE

Going eastbound on 90 those would be the last towers upgraded to nv. It would hang on to those for dear life until the last minute. Then you would switch over to the legacy network as you head east. But you are right, that is why your phone is behaving that way. My guess is that prevents someone driving on the boarder between network vision and legacy towers from going back and forth dropping calls potentially every tower handoff. Sent from my EVO LTE

I don't think they will switch to doing LTE first. Sprint is trying to finish the 3g work in Chicago as fast as possible to stop the bleeding. Robert wrote a very good article on the issues sprint is facing in Chicago. In a nutshell the legacy Motorola tower equipment isn't playing nice with the newer Samsung equipment. Apparently we are one of only a handful of areas that have the problem Motorola equipment. These problems are unique to us right now. Sent from my EVO LTE

It is currently deployed in a good chunk of nv towers in the Chicago market. It makes a huge difference inside buildings. Sent from my EVO LTE

Yes. From what I understand from sprint is that Samsung/Ericson applied a patch to NV and legacy towers that prevents 1x handoffs from legacy to nv or nv to legacy towers unless absolutly necessary. It seems like it hangs on to a signal when going across the "boundery" until it is gone. My phone would sometimes roam when that would happen. It didn't seem to effect 3g service at all. Once the legacy towers were upgraded that stopped. Sent from my EVO LTE

25005 I was hitting site CH01XC199 Sent from my EVO LTE

You are correct, although it is hitting the same tower according to netmonitor. Unfortunatly that app only tells me what tower my phone is getting 1xrtt. It is entirely possible I am getting 3g from a diffrent tower. I do know from other areas in Chicago where the backhaul is complete the speed screams. Originally Palatine was not supposed to be finished with 3g until fall or so. Obviously because of all the problems they really have sped things up. The backhaul installation may still be installed closer to the original date. Sent from my EVO LTE

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I saw band class 10 on my debug screen today while hitting a couple nv towers in Palatine. I'm guessing that is the 800mhz band? Sent from my EVO LTE

I am hitting a tower in Palatine right now and getting a ping of 189ms. I don't think it is complete yet. Based on my speed tests the speed is a little slower than it was before. I'm sure that will be fixed soon enough. Sent from my EVO LTE

They just rolled it out in Palatine and Hoffman Estates last night. Schaumburg can't be far behind. Sent from my EVO LTE