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    Pixel 4/4XL

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    1 hour ago, swintec said:

    I understand, that's why I was asking what your NEED was for the consistently high upload.  You must be doing something with 40 mbits upload on a mobile device...certainly you just arent running speed / latency tests all day?

    I am equally sending out photos/videos/etc as I am receiving.

    Lots of people don't understand that the internet is a 2-way street and it's not all about the download side.

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    Pixel 4/4XL

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    On 12/25/2019 at 10:57 PM, swintec said:

    there have been several pages at this point over you going back and forth over this device due to possible upload speed issues and not being able to hit 30-40+ mbps .  i have to ask...what do you need a consistent 40 mbits of upload on a mobile device for?

    Everyone has different needs/desires. I prefer lower latency and the highest possible upload speeds. Just wondering if the Pixel 4 XL is capable of keeping up with the S9, S10, Note 10, etc on the upload side...

    Pixel 4/4XL

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    Posted

    On 12/22/2019 at 11:11 AM, Kevster1321 said:

    This is the highest speed I got on this phone so far.

    Screenshot_20191222-120911.png

    Download is smoking. Upload Eh.

    I'd rather have 100/50. Or even 50/50.

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    Pixel 4/4XL

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    5 minutes ago, lilotimz said:

    1) If it's operating in B25 as the PCC for DL/UL then potentially.

    2) Correct

    3) Correct. Sprint needs to do it network side and push the config profile to the device.

    4) No.

    5) Correct. It's B25 as the primary component carrier which is providing download and upload operations with B41 carriers aggregated for additional downlink capacity. 

    Thanks for the info. Lastly, how will I know when Sprint decides to start pushing this out?

    Pixel 4/4XL

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    16 hours ago, lilotimz said:

    3,3a,4 has it though capabilities depends on device. Josh posted the ones for the 4 above.

    The 3 and 3A has similar capabilities though the cheaper 3a, because of google reasons, have better combination support than the flagship 3. 

    Please clarify that below is correct, the way I understand it....

    1. The Pixel 4 is capable of the exact upload speeds as the screenshot I posted?

    2. It won't happen however until Sprint "flips the switch" to enable it, network side?

    3. The way he is getting the speeds now is he can manually enable it on his Samsung device, but Pixel devices don't have the menu to do it. Thus, have to wait for Sprint do it network-side.

    4. Is there a marketing term for this, like 5G, Sprint Speed, etc?

    5. This is not technically Upload Carrier Aggregation?????

    Pixel 4/4XL

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    11 minutes ago, lilotimz said:

    Negative. 

    That is FDD-TDD DL CA utilizing a 10 MHz B25 carrier as PCC for DL /UL with 20 MHz B41 aggregated on the downlink.

     

    I won't pretend and say I know what that is. Is the Pixel 2, 3, or 4 capable of this?

    If not, which devices are?

    Pixel 4/4XL

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    29 minutes ago, dkyeager said:

    Yes, Samsung S9 and likely its successors, but Sprint has to allow it first and enable sites etc.

    So the S9 and newer Samsung devices are capable of multiple upload CA variations but even newer Pixel devices are not?

    Pixel 4/4XL

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    Posted

    1 hour ago, Thomas L. said:

    Unfortunately, based on LTE standards,  I believe that 2xCA upload is the maximum CA supported for upload for ANY band, so it's a technology limitation at this point. I don't think that will change until 5G becomes more widespread.

    That leads to my next question. Can any phone(s), including the Pixel 4, do 25+41 or 25+25 or 26+41 or 26+26 on the upload?

    Or are all restricted to 41+41 on the upload?

    Pixel 4/4XL

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    58 minutes ago, ingenium said:

    Sorry, I edited the post and left in the 1x (meaning single carrier) by mistake. It can't do B26+41 at all.

    CA combos:

    2xCA: 25-25, 25-26, 25-41, 41-41
    3xCA: 25-25-25, 25-25-26, 25-41-41, 41x3
    And 4x and 5x CA B41.

    2xCA upload on B41.

    Like the Pixel 3, it's also limited to 10 MIMO streams. So you can do 4x4 on 2 B41 carriers, but only 2x2 on the last one. Likewise, with 5xCA B41, it can only do 2x2 per carrier. No 4x4 at all.

    No idea when Sprint will push the update to enable FDD-TDD. Sprint Speed emoji769.png. Could be next week, could be 6-12+ months. Magic Boxes and Airaves for example have been capable of VoLTE for 11+ months, just waiting for Sprint to whitelist them. Things can be ready and working but just sit for a year for seemingly no reason...

    Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
     

    So for upload, only 2xCA on B41 is possible on the Pixel 4? How about other devices? My biggest "want" is the best upload speed generally.

    Pixel 4/4XL

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    16 hours ago, ingenium said:

    It's not enabled on phones. He had to force enable it on his phone. Can't do that on Pixels. So we have to wait for Sprint to push the network config update to devices to tell them they can use it.

    Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
     

    What's the ETA on this? What are they gaining by not doing it now?

    Pixel 4/4XL

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    1 minute ago, ingenium said:

    No. The menu is exactly the same on the 4. You can enable and disable individual bands, but not carrier aggregation combinations.

    Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
     

    Bummer. Ok gotcha!

    Pixel 4/4XL

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    Posted

    1 hour ago, ingenium said:

    Apparently the Pixel 4 is capable of B25 + 2xCA B41 (3xCA total), no B26 + 1x B41, and 2xCA upload B41. So whenever Sprint enables it, it should work.

    (Edited with correct CA combos)

    What is "no B26 + 1x B41" ? Specifically the "no".

    Which "upload" aggregations is the Pixel 4 capable of? Or were you speaking of uploads only?

    Pixel 4/4XL

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    Posted

    1 hour ago, ingenium said:

    It's not enabled on phones. He had to force enable it on his phone. Can't do that on Pixels. So we have to wait for Sprint to push the network config update to devices to tell them they can use it.

    Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
     

    Won't the option(s) to enable be in the *#*#DATA#*#* menu on the Pixel 4?

    This is from my Pixel 2

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    Pixel 4/4XL

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    Posted

    1 minute ago, ingenium said:

    It's the same SoC and modem, so yes it's capable, unless Google did something with the RF front end to disable it.

    Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
     

    How/when can I find out :D:D:D

    Pixel 4/4XL

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    Posted

    14 minutes ago, ingenium said:

    His speed is because of FDD-TDD CA. B25 is being used for upload, possibly with 4x4 and 64 QAM up.

    Is this possible on the 4 XL?

    The NSG developer doesn't have a Pixel 4 to test with. Someone sent him logs from trying to run it, and the developer basically said "wtf?". So the Pixel 4 is doing some weirdness. I'm pretty sure he'll be able to get it working whenever he gets a 4 to test with, but he's based in China and Pixels aren't exactly easy to come by there.

    Understood. Ya fingers crossed for sure!

    There was a similar issue with the 3 last year. I think he got it working around mid December, so fingers crossed that it's soon.

    Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
     

     

     

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