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In markets that I have traveled to Where NV is more complete it has been real impressive. Usable data is really the norm in those markets. If you are looking for high speed test to boost your ego than no NV is not going to do that for you, at least not until 2.6 gets deployed. But if you want data that will stream video/music consistently NV is making that happen in the markets I have traveled to ( San Diego, la, San Francisco) now hopeful Phoenix can get going.

It will change, it already ended on iPhones and has always been billed by tmobile as a summer promo. Maybe they will keep it around but it is unlikely.

The point of the op I was going off of and the point I agreed with him on was sprint is falling behind the offers of other carriers. Them having a program that does kind of the same thing (but not really) and no one knows about doesn't invalidate the claim. Sprint is play catch up in a lot of ways (lte, plan price and hand set subsidies) some of which can't be helped but plan pricing and handset offers can.

This is not the same kind of program. This is not something sprint is advertising, a customer either has to know about it or have a pretty aware sales rep. Who goes over it with them. Next, jump and edge are new pricing schemes that involve "financing" (edge and next aren't really financing) the phone and sprint doesn't offer this. Argue about the merits of these programs all you want they are popular and people are doing it. Sprint will need to catch up and for a company looking to grow playing catch up is not where you want to be.

Unless you went with an iPhone in which case add 300 for the phones. Also the no money down is for a limited time. And the jump plan is 10 a month per line so I don't get your math on the second set. But yes sprint's new plans aren't as competitive as I thought they where going to be after the SoftBank's purchase nor have they responded to next, edge or jump all of which have been surprisingly popular. So I hear you on that point.

Well it would be rare for him to get 50mb down on vzw in the valley these days. Most people I know with lte phone with them are having speed issues with them (I am mainly in the east side though). In any case sprint will be 3-6 months before lte ubiquitus through the valley. So there os that.

Now the slow and painful improving process, like the mending of a broken leg

Everyone has their priorities.

I think sprint should partner with Dish on this.????

Not sure where to ask this but I am visiting a market where lte is being deployed but not fully launched and when I have access to lte it works very well except when streaming video. When I stream video it loads about 40 sec then stops and I have to skip ahead for it to load the next 40 sec. I have used several different apps and the web browser all do the samething. I don't know if it is the phone (I have an iPhone 5) I don't think so because with a fast enough 3G connection I don't have this problem. I also have tried it with full lte signal. Has anybody else had this problem? Is this something sprint is doing with prelaunch markets? Thanks.

Churn for the last quarter was largely drive by the Nextel shut down and problems created by the NV vision upgrades. Both are necessary for sprint to fix their long term network issues and the NV related churn will continue until the end of the project, thankfully the Nextel related churn only has one more quarter to plague sprint.

jD power studies are almost useless for as much prestige is given to them. They use large samples (very large in fact) but the difference between carrier score (even from bottom to top) are so low that they are rather meaningless. The wireless industry as a whole has improved in customer service, that AT&T took home the customer service award in this study is well good for their marketing department but not much else. And while vzw and AT&T (although not in every market) are deploying 10x10 in 700 leading to faster peak speeds ( I don't understand people's obsession with this, I think it is the same impulse that leads people to feel more masculine with a big truck) sprint's lte network will be better in many ways do to the fact that they are using multiple frequencies and voice on the same frequencies. Sprint also has half the customers so 5x5 won't be as be of a disadvantage as you make it out.

Depends on cell site densities. If you are willing to spend the money you can have a 1900 network that has as good coverage (and more capacity) than 700. Further, AT&T and Verizon make their 700 lte network mimic the coverage of their voice network by requiring stronger signal strengths to connect to lte. This means in markets where they have 1900 voice their 700 lte looks to the end users as 1900 lte as far as coverage goes while having the capacity problems of 700. Since spring has voice on 800 and 1900 there is no need for them to do this, meaning in many markets sprint's lte will have better in building coverage than either AT&T or vzw.

I wouldn't go that far. The whole spectrum portfolio is the key core asset when tied to NV. Both AT&T and vzw have low frequencies for both voice and lte. Sprint is also only working with one 5x5 lte carrier and 1xadvance carrier so comparing only the 800 asset with AT&T and vzw low spectrum assets doesn't have sprint pull even with them. 800 is great and important to sprint for in building penetration and coverage but has less capacity than 1900 or 2.5. The capacity of 2.5 will allow sprint to continue unlimited data as well as reach compatible speeds (in the future faster speeds). It really is how sprint is organizing all of their spectrum assets to work across their technologies that is impressive.

I think sprint talks a lot about their whole portfolio of spectrum and realizes how important of a competitive advantage the spread of spectrum gives them. The whole idea behind NV is to harmonize their spectrum across network technologies in a way that the competition can not match without a similar effort. The media focus on 2.5 I think is because NV's advantages are hard to explain in the limited amount of words they have and if you want some advantage that can be communicated easily (and concisely) it is sprint's massive 2.5 holdings.

I don't think so. I don't believe I have ever seen anything in the t & c that says sprint (or any carrier) is required to provide you with a paper bill.

I would bet on the next iPhone being triband. SoftBank (now apple's second largestis a bigest customer) purchaser of iPhones and I think their lte network is exculsively 2.5 (not 100 percent on this, would love a correction if not accurate). This I think garentees 2.5 at the least and I have no idea why they would omit 800 lte. So my money is on yes, but as an iPhone user that could be a product of wishful thinking.

You need to add in softbank's sales as well now. Because apple would be making the changes for their sake.

I only really want two things out of the new iPhone, an ir blaster and triband. I can give in on the ir blaster but my next phone will be triband.

Well I was talking about root metric market studies that show sprint dead last in almost all markets in text delivery times. Go though their reports. I doubt that this is not network related but maybe they have use bad device for their studies, repeatedly and in many different markets. I am a sprint fanboy but no way am I going to defend the current state of the network, nor will I allow myself to become so deluded that I ignore or rationalize away the numerous independent studies that show that sprint current network is not competitive. Network vision is the most innovative project any carrier is doing and has tremendous promise (though it won't fix all of sprint's problems) but it is not complete and many sprint customers like me have to suffer on sprint's legacy equipment or leave and that is not an easy choice (especially in Phoenix where lte seems as if it will never get here).

It is not just speed tests. Root measures block down loads failed calls (sprint generally does pretty good in this catagory but in my area i get alot of failed calls, i am chalking it uo to NV work.) Sprint is reagularly last in text devilery times, failed downloads and usaully has more test that come in on the extreme low end, on roots tests. Root's methodolgy might be flawed (i dont know enough about to contruct such test to make a claim on that) but it is deffinately unbias.

The problem is that sprint's data network is the worst than any of the major carriers. That not just opinion, look at root metric, pc mag revue or the quality of sprint's legacy equipment vs the backhaul and equipment of other carriers (or trust you own eyes). Sprint is not in the position that AT&T and vzw are in, where a debate between which of these has the best network can really only be settled by saying it depends, sprint's network is objectively worst. That is one of the reasons network vision exist, if sprint that it's network was up to snuff they would do what VZW And AT&T did and deploy lte on top of their existing network (it would have been faster and cheaper) not rebuilding their network from the ground up. I haven't had any issues with the way sprint has handled NV (a little frustrated that it has been delayed but things happen) until sprint's new pricing plans and the way they have made it very difficult for new customers to get the old ones. To me this is a price hike and makes no sense given the state of their network. Until, they under go a major rebranding effort. (Hopefully started after NV is complete) I don't see how they can be anything else other than a discount carrier, there reputation is awful.

I think sprint is having trouble getting handset manufactures to build phones with this feature supported. When apple supported gsm's version of hd voice and not CDMA I began to have doubts that sprint could make this more than a gimmick. But they could just be waiting for the 800 CDMA footprint to become large enough to make it worth paying a bit more for phones (although the did launch the evo lte over a year ago or so.) . If the former is the case there is still hope with sprint/SoftBank having more clout with handset makers.

Rants? I am not ranting about anything. I am a happy sprint customer, if I was trying to move to sprint and had the experience I have had when i called ( for me it was only an experiment) I would be unhappy. As far as evidence, the only thing he has offered is a quote by Hesse and an interpretation of it. I offered an alternative interpretation and explained why I thought it was better. To which I got replies of how I was not presenting facts and naming calling (which again the only fact present by him was a quote and an interpretation, which oddly enough I accepted the quote and gave a different interpretation) that is where the break down in logic and stuff occurred and where I became bored. Feel free to disagree with my take on Hesse's statements regarding the new plans but all he offered was another take on Hesse's statements. It seems odd to count that as evidence.

That was me saying I wanted to end the debate and that I don't accept your points as valid, because well logic and stuff. In any case you resorted to name calling and then say I need to grow up? Interesting interpretation.