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My first thought in looking at those speeds was were they in the same area or is it a 5x5 vs. a 10x10 area. Also, as stated the Note 2 is an RF beast. My wife has a Photon Q and besides one oddity when visiting a tower, I've always connected to LTE much earlier than her and held it much longer.

I would be shocked if there was any Clearwire LTE being used in 2013. Any takers on this one?

It wouldn't shock me if Sprint had a USB dongle that was triband this year or a Wholesale partner was using Clear LTE for something non-Phone this year.

No, read lynyrd's post more clearly. He says that Sprint has stated that it will not release any dual band LTE 800/1900 devices but will skip directly to tri band LTE 800/1900, TD-LTE 2600 devices. Thus, LTE 800 and TD-LTE 2600 are predicated on each other. No device, reportedly, will possess one capability but not the other.

 

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I see that but he still has a typo in there that is confusing. Sprint is skipping PCS/SMR LTE devices for PCS/SMR/BRS LTE devices. While a device with SMR LTE won't be release until BRS LTE/TD-LTE is ready, this is a policy decision, not a technical one. SMR LTE being FDD-LTE has no bearing on BRS LTE being TD-LTE.

At least that was how I read his comment.

I don't for a moment belive that you will need 100Mbits/sec on your smartphone except to brag. What the heck are you going to be going that will require that? 20x20 channels will be able to get you 150Mbits/sec/sector. It's not going to be about you but about you and the 15 other people that are in your sector. It's not about replacing your home connection with a wireless connection, it's supplementing it. If the cable guys think that they are losing customers to the wireless guys they will either lower your home internet connection price or jack up the wholesale price to the wireless guys.

Mobile devices are the way of the future, higher quality streaming media, higher bandwidth applications, higher bandwidth everything. It will not shock me to see the PC make an exit in the next 10 years and the laptop in the next 20 with the replacement being tablets, phablets, and phones. Internet companies hosting services like Office 365 and other productivity over the internet that require higher bandwidth connections. Multi player gaming platforms that run over mobile/handheld devices over the internet.

Look at how the bandwidth consumption has increased over the last 10 years and it will probably accelerate exponentially. Developers have always and will continue to build services that max out the current generation of products, so the network/device must be robust enough to support these services, plus everything else.

Wasn't it Bill Gates that made a comment in the 80s about a personal computer never needing more than 640k of RAM? Now we have cell phones with 2GB of RAM.

Just because you can't see a future service that will require an incredibly high speed connection, doesn't mean that someone else can't envision those services.

Careful. "20x20 TD-LTE" is a contradiction in terms because TD-LTE uses only one allocation that is shared in time between uplink and downlink. "20x20" would be 20 MHz FDD, but Clearwire is deploying 20 MHz TDD.

 

AJ

Thanks AJ, I now remember that and it was the intent of my message, just typo'd it

After the whole shebang closes, I would like for Sprint to articulate exactly what they're going to do with all that Clearwire spectrum. They won't need it except in very limited places. Now if they change their business model to something else (involving video on demand, OTT video), then I can see them needing all that spectrum, but other than becoming wholesale provider for Dish and DirectTV, I just don't see it.

I disagree, data is king, who would have thought 10 years ago that a T1 wouldn't be enough backhaul for a cell tower. Now scalable fiber or AAV is backhauling cell sites.

Sprint has set itself apart with unlimited data and I don't really see that going away. Sprint/Softbank/Clear can increase bandwidth network wide over the next few years, adding BRS support along the way. Perhaps Eaton Rapids, MI doesn't need 20x20 TD-LTE right now, but in two years when everyone is expecting 100Mb/s on their mobile devices, Sprint can provide that. Further away from the towers, SMR and PCS LTE can provide slower, but still reliable service.

There are threads here about it though I've had issues finding them. The outlook isn't exciting and quite honestly pretty grim.

 

Sprint has said they won't have any TD-LTE devices until late 2013 and no real flagships until 2014. Given that SMR support is predicated on TD-LTE support per their comments about skipping SMR dual band devices for tri-band LTE devices, I'm more than a little disappointed in their device strategy.

Don't you mean BRS support is predicated on TD-LTE? SMR is the 800Mhz spectrum and has nothing to do with Clear. I also believe that SMR LTE with be FDD like the PCS G Block LTE

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I'm just guessing here (obviously) but perhaps it is because of the relatively good RF performance of the iPhone to begin with. 800SMR wouldn't be AS beneficial to it? Outside of that, maybe there are issues with it that are being sorted out so it is only listed as a last resort?

The Note 2 is an RF beast, I don't think that RF is the concern.

Since east coast U.S. is and has been rapidly covered and San Francisco/other areas on the west coast been attended to, when is the capital gonna get some LTE love? And since sprint has funds being sent from Softbank, will sprint start spending money aggressively knowing that money's being sent in a few months? The 3g here is unbearable.

Check in the markets sub-forum for information about your area

There have many debates regarding wifi offloading and I know that this will eventually turn into that and be locked But I had a thought recently as the tower closest to my house has new Panels and RRUs installed.

Should a consumer that only has High Speed Internet for their mobile device home use, keep that service once LTE is available at their home? Previous to my family cutting the cord and using streaming services for TV, my High Speed Internet was limited to my wife's laptop and our phones/tablets. I'm very sure that I could have convinced her that saving $70/month would have pushed her into full tablet usage.

How do the masses here feel about an end user canceling their HSI if they only use it for their mobile devices and do not violate the T&C of the Sprint contract?

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I could be wrong' date=' but i dont think new panels plus 2 rrus mean 800 smr....[/quote']

 

One RRU is PCS, 4 hook ups LTE tx/rd and CDMA tx/rx. Other RRU is SMR, only two hookups for CDMA tx/rx

 

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Upgrades on the Sprint tower in Lansing near the old GM plants between Willow and Saginaw. New panels and two RRUs, indicating 800 SMR. I thought Lansing was in the 100mile exclusion zone, but we might be on the outer edge.

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Still working on the ringtone selection.. it's at the top of my list. There is a bug in Android preventing the "normal" way to choose a tone from working correctly' date=' so I have been trying to come up with my own workaround.

 

Does the other LTE data appear to be correct? Does anyone else see odd values for asu?

 

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All other info is correct

 

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Love having the chimes back for LTE connection. Still want to make and pick my own sound

Running CM10.1 on my Note 2, I still have the crazy asu number when connected to LTE. Currently it's 328206 or 393999

My issue with the list is those are the international models that Samsung controls the updates on. I fully expect my Galaxy Note 2 to get KLP, but it is ultimately up to Sprint to certify the release and send it out. Samsung may make the successor to KLP available to the international Note 2, but I wouldn't expect Sprint to release that. I also don't expect Sprint to release 4.2.2 for the Galaxy S2

So glad they got that in! Now if I could only change the bars to show the right data while on 3G... Still, as 4G becomes more common I guess it really won't matter.

 

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CM shows me 1X or 3G depending on the connectivity and the "bars" match what I see from the SignalCheck Pro App.

For some reason people state the Samsung keyboard doesn't auto correct. Mods have been out to enable it. I use Swiftkey as I like the customizations and predictions it brings.

 

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I prefer Swype and that has suggestion correction.

Of course, there is a big exception here. All these people are talking about the Exynos SoC. It appears that there will again be a split, with the North American version containing a Qualacomm SoC while the international version ships with the Exynos 5. Qualacomm, through Code Aurora Forum, provides excellent support (and GPLed code) that makes the NA GS3 one of the best supported CM devices. Too bad Sony dosen't make CDMA phones though...

Agreed, it will all depend on what chipset ends up in the NA devices.