jefbal99

upper decker

Log one for the Lansing 4G Core too, please

All depends on the site and the load.  I know the new LTE site that covers my work now becomes unusable everyday around lunch hours.  I end up having to turn LTE off around this time otherwise data just won't work.  Guess this site is just getting slammed.

Naw, all other data is fine, just Google related stuff is getting the slowdown and it happens at multiple LTE sites morning, noon, night

That is great information Robert, thanks.  That app download went for 30 minutes, then the last like 10MB came down in a flash, true LTE speed.  Now my twitter app, Plume has 20 mins to go with 11% downloaded.

Also, I'm doing this from an active NV deployment area all through the same 4G core, so maybe they are still doing work at the core level.

You should try something like Signalcheck or CDMA Field Test or Netmonitor to try and see the site location. My experience thus far has been that NV Cells squawk the actual tower's address, instead of ~1 mile from it as legacy ones do in MI.

I use mikejeep's signalcheck, but I had the address part turned off

I think this has been mentioned/discussed, but I couldn't find a topic on it...

Is anyone else experiencing incredibly slow response/download from Google services on Sprint LTE?  With a very stable LTE signal, I can try to update an app from the play store or download an email attachment and it is like my data is flowing over the 1X voice channel.  I'm currently updating the MaaS360 app that I have to use for my Corp email and with 8% downloaded in about 7 minutes, it says I have 41minutes left and that is going up.  I try to get pictures that my wife sends me of the kids, 1-3 MB and they rarely get passed the loading stage.  I will make changes to my gmail account via Android app and it takes 15 minutes for them to show up on the Web or I will respond to the email and the Gmail app sits at sending, but the Website shows the response.  Google Now gives me a toast notification that is "No Connection."  When wifi is available, if I flip to that, everything loads crazy fast.

I just ran a speedtest while that MaaS360 download was going on, 93ms ping, 2.00Mbps down, 3.50Mbps up.  Web pages load fine, Podcast downloads, corp email and other apps load up fine.

Has there been any talk or rumblings about traffic shaping on Google services?  I know Sprint will be managing their network much more tightly post NV.

Breast Milk

I thought the DNA/Butterfly was supposed to be their phablet type device?

Samsung SPH-N400 (first cell phone)
LG Vi 5225
Sanyo PM8200
Motorola MotoQ
BlackBerry Curve 8330
HTC EVO 4G
Samsung Galaxy S2 (Epic 4g Touch)
Samsung Galaxy Note 2

Take a look at http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1611-phone-history/

Maybe merge the threads?

Note 2 running CM10.1 and I'm not getting any notification with connecting to 800 1X.  I was near a tower over the weekend and connected to it multiple times, but never got the Chimes (I switched LTE to Venture and SMR to Chimes to make sure I heard it)

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I got CDMA800 in Lowell over the weekend and I was also picking it up occasionally at Tyler Creek, but it was a weak signal, so I'm not sure where it was from.

So, other than the EVOLTE what phones have 1xA?

Any phone released in the last year has SMR 1xA along with others, check out the FAQ

During the First two NV phases in Lansing, I was changing into CDMA only all the time.  My only guess is that LTE signals were being tested and my phone would get just a glimpse and drop out of 3G, but never lock onto LTE.

The only tech I wish death on is iden. CDMA has coverage performance advantages over LTE you dont realize until you go to a low signal area where only 1xRTT will function.

 

I hope cdma sticks around but i am excited for the VoLTE future potentially uniting all American carriers to a single roaming footprint.

 

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Could a device be created with enough antennas/amps/etc to support 600(maybe)/700/750/800/850/1700/1900/2100/2300/2500?  Not to mention the potential of Dish 2200 LTE.  Due to the varying spectrum used, I don't think you'll ever see a device that can used used on any US carrier...

But long term that is good right?

Very good, my speculation is that this is being done with a view to enabling CDMA 800Mhz once Nextel shuts down in the end of June.  Sprint voice can be very spotty in those rural areas and adding SMR voice would greatly reduce, if not eliminate their VZW roaming charges.

I'm shocked that Sprint would but out a smart phone that is not LTE capable, I figured they would still have feature phones that were 3G or the psuedo smartphones that were 3G...

It's the exact numbers that are going to be important. Even if inside speeds are half of what you stated, it's gonna be perfect and indistinguishable unless you do a speed test.

 

If PCS can reach inside, that'll be good enough because Sprint is gonna eventually add more 2x5 LTE carriers, leaving one 2x5 block for 2x1.25 voice carriers, and speeds will be plenty fast.

Actually in 5Mhz FDD, if 1xA takes 1.25Mhz FDD, you could fit 3 carriers, unless the guard bands were too big.

Sprint has brought up a cluster of NV 3G according to a source in the sponsor thread.  The area is East of GR, West-> East Alto to Portland and South -> North Freeport -> Sheridan

This includes the I96 corridor from Portland to the M6, don't be surprised of you drop calls due to Legacy->NV or NV->Legacy handoff

I'm starting to wonder if something is up in the core of Sprints NV network as my data issues have gotten much worse in the last week.  When I'm at home, the closest tower to me is NV LTE live, probably half a mile away and the data speed/consistency is just all over the board.  I can be on a social network and try a refresh and time out, then 5 seconds later its fine, then 5 seconds later its out.  All the time with 4 bars (CM10.1 so real LTE data) and -80ish dBm from signal check pro.  If I try to do a speed test, sometimes it completes, but a majority will hang and never finish.  At work I'm connecting to a more distant tower, but maintain -95 dBm to -102dBm, which is 1-2 bars.  Just trying to stream an online radio show 9am-11am is constant drops or buffering.  I can't get a youtube clip to load or pictures on my twitter app. 

Google Apps and the Play Store appear to be the worst offenders, regardless of connection or location.  They are almost always excruciating slow, can't load up a 1meg jpg from email or update my apps.

I'm going to start watching the Status screen on my phone much closer.  I just noticed today that SignalCheck and my bars don't change, but the Signal Strength screen takes me to 0 dBm a couple of times per minute.

I'm one of the biggest proponents saying "The network is under construction, need to let it finish, etc" but something just doesn't feel right.  None of the sites in my area are microwave backhaul, they are all AAV from what I remember, so I wouldn't think the issue is there.  I'm just shocked to be looking at a pretty solid signal and not see data flowing or a 64kb radio stream buffering.

It's time to play the waiting game and see when more towers are accepted and see if that helps.  It very well could be that with the sparse towers that every LTE device is trying to use the little bit of LTE that is out there and as the rest are activated it will alleviate the strain.

square peg

forbidden dance

I agree that they need to wait until all the sites are done. But then again I sit here with a decent LTE signal, the site pulls 12-14 in the morning even more if you are close to the site of course. Wait till lunch and it goes dead with 1x speeds and 5000ms pings. I don't want to believe it is overloaded with such a small customer base here but this same pattern has happened 4 days in a row so far. Don't know what to think.

 

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I've noticed in Lansing, MI that at peak times I get slower, but no where near what you've posted.  I'm also typically around -100 - -110dBm for my LTE signal so I'm hitting some distant towers.  At home, i'm typically -90dBm and run into some signal oddities, but I think I'm right on the border between two of the three sectors and I bounce between them.

They're gonna do it eventually even if it does harm nonLTE users.

 

I expect they'll hold off until the average goes below the 6-8mbpa they're advertising.

Once all the towers are upgraded and the carriers are getting loaded, then this is valid.

 

Adding a second carrier wouldn't improve peak speeds but it would double average speeds.

Unless Sprint has spectrum sitting in a market unused, that would potentially harm EVDO/CDMA by taking away carrier from non-LTE users.