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I'm glad your suffering will be ending soon. Some less fortunate markets, like mine, will have much more suffering before the end. Robert

It is getting better. The dropped connection issue is caused from when a customer travels from a Samsung Network Vision cell and then transfer to a legacy Motorola cell on the same channel. This is more of a problem in rural areas and suburbs where most carriers were deployed on the same channel. However, in the more dense suburban and urban areas, there are far more channels deployed and less likely that a customer would transfer from a NV cell to a legacy cell on the same channel. I don't see it in those terms. First off, any coverage lapses are temporary. After launch, a dozen new sites or more will come live every week. Filling in more and more and more coverage. Second, remember that the spacing in the dense urban areas is much closer. So they don't have to have every site complete to get good coverage in the Loop. Tony, I think you suffer from too much information. Verizon did not deploy on all their sites in the Loop at their launch. Maybe 25% of them. But they were able to show a complete coverage map, and that's all anyone knew. And customers were happy with that. If I created coverage maps instead of site maps, you all would be happier. Ignorance is bliss. I wouldn't call it neglected. I would call it schedule order. They started Network Vision in the outer areas first where they have less population and customers to tick off. There is a huge learning curve with Network Vision. It is something that has never been done before. Now they are working their way in. This has been reported as being done this way since my first Chicago article last Winter. Robert

Pittsfield does not have any sites in the first half of the market deployment. The schedule shows deployment will start in the Pittsfield area in October and wrap up in December. Robert

by Robert Herron Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - 12:00 PM MDT The next market in our Network Vision/LTE deployment schedule update series is...the City of Angels. Los Angeles, a.k.a. "L.A." The LA Metro market has not been announced by Sprint, but appears to be on the way for a September launch. The Sprint LA Metro market covers all of Los Angeles County. Adjacent counties are in different Sprint markets. Sprint's Network Vision OEM Alcatel/Lucent has been actively deploying in Los Angeles since March and is making good progress. As of this week, there are approximately 65 Network Vision sites that have completed upgrades. These sites are located throughout the market. Mostly in the SF Valley, Los Angeles Basin and the I-110 Harbor Freeway Corridor. Network Vision Sites in the LA Metro market. Approximately 65 Network Vision sites are complete in the market. Market Launch and Remaining Schedule It was Sprint's original plan to launch markets when they reached 50% of sites converted to Network Vision. However, it has now been determined that Sprint will move up launches sooner than 50% completion in several markets. This is likely to maintain a Mid 2012 launch in markets that have already been announced. However, in an unannounced market like LA, we don't know if they will resume pushing back market launches to 50%, or if they will now settle on a 30% - 40% completion to be the new normal for market launches. If Sprint waits for 50% completion to launch the LA Metro market, it would make the launch month to be October (should AlcaLu stay on schedule). That being said, if Sprint should launch in September (as we suspect), then the market would be less than 50% complete. This doesn't sound like enough, but it would provide pretty good coverage. Even Verizon doesn't launch on all sites in a market initially. Usually less than 50%, then filling in with more and more sites every few months. Anticipated Sites Complete at Market Launch. According to the Network Vision schedules that S4GRU has reviewed, if Sprint launched the market in September, these are the anticipated sites that would likely have LTE complete at that time. This would provide fairly good LTE coverage over many parts of the market. Sprint is not reporting any of these live Network Vision sites in the LA market as currently broadcasting 4G LTE, only 3G EVDO. According to the NV schedule, these should have started coming online in May with LTE. However, none have shown up as LTE active to date. This most likely means that either the backhaul is not quite ready to service 4G LTE, or the 4G cores that these sites are tied to are not quite ready for LTE traffic. A backlog of LTE sites will probably come online in this market suddenly when the network is ready. The bottom line... We currently do not have a date that Sprint will formally "launch" the LA Metro market. We believe they are targeting a launch month of September based on reports internally within Sprint. They will likely announce a launch date for this market, and a few others like Austin, Boston, Chicago and Washington DC around the time of the first market launches. Sprint's schedule for this market currently has 65 Network Vision sites complete. Alcatel/Lucent is continuing to progress and is planning to increase the production rate up to 110 sites per month from here forward. This seems like a very difficult rate of completion to achieve. S4GRU has examined the schedule in great detail in this market and sees that most of the sites will be complete by February 2013. However, there are several sites that will linger past the completion. In our estimation of the schedule, AlcaLu is currently pretty much on time, but may have issues meeting this rate identified in Sprint's schedule. Photo of Downtown Los Angeles provided courtesy of Wikimedia Commons. NOTE: S4GRU Sponsor Members can track regular updates of Network Vision sites completed nationwide. Completed sites are shown in an interactive Google Maps interface. Information about sponsorship can be found here: S4GRU Sponsorship

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eHRPD ssessions can only be connected in a LTE device. A WiMax device will only connect to an EVDO session. Robert via Kindle Fire using Forum Runner

LTE speeds are very signal dependent. If you created a graph with peak speeds at full signal (-65dBm) having 30Mbps and drew a straight line from there to a weak signal (around -110dBm) you would roughly get an idea of what kind of speeds to expect with varying signal strengths in between.

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I get that. However, Sprint could have upped their voting power, made some critical changes and then reduced voting power. There were other options. But Sprint was trying to keep their partner happy and not step on their toes. Any aggressive move by Sprint would have instantly soured the relationship and made things very difficult. It was a tough position to be in. Its just Monday morning quarterbacking. Robert via Kindle Fire using Forum Runner

No. There is no guarantee even the next iPhone will support CDMA 800. Robert via Kindle Fire using Forum Runner

The Alabama market is not scheduled to begin Network Vision/LTE deployment until 2013. Robert via Kindle Fire using Forum Runner

I'm up for some hot Note 2 action. Especially if it had Jelly Bean. Robert via Kindle Fire using Forum Runner

Yes, at the 55 sites shown in yellow at the map above. Robert

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How can anyone deal with a total moron like that guy that Odell quoted above? The answer is...you can't. They are so far removed reality. They have no concept of what a preorder is and the risks involved. Can you imagine being this guy's insurance agent or his doctor? Robert via Kindle Fire using Forum Runner

The point of this article is clearly identified. IT IS A SCHEDULE UPDATE. We get requests for schedule updates every day. And now we are in the middle of an article series providing a schedule update on every first and second round market. The conversion to Network Vision is complete, all the work has been done physically at these sites. And most of them do have the new backhaul in place. But there are a small amount that will be on legacy backhaul for a short time. Sprint reports sites that are accepted complete from the OEM, but they do not report which ones may not have backhaul upgrade yet. I have no way to segregate those out. And trying to do so doesn't much matter, because its always in flux. But this is the schedule update for Boston that is a snap shot in time for the moment as best that can be identified and reported at this time. Robert

Actually neither. Cecilton is in the Delaware market. http://s4gru.com/index.php?/gallery/image/252-sprint-market-map-delaware/ Robert

by Robert Herron Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - 6:00 AM MDT Chicago. Network Vision is nearly infamous among Chicagoans. Chicago has not been an easy market for Sprint so far. We reported in a previous article about some of the challenges Sprint has faced in its Windy City deployment. Even though this market has yet to be announced by Sprint, we are happy to report to you that Chicago appears to be on track for a September launch. The Sprint Chicago market covers most of Northern Illinois and the adjacent suburbs of NW Indiana. Sprint's Network Vision OEM Samsung has been actively deploying in the Chicago market since December and is making good progress. As of this week, there are over 300 Network Vision sites that have completed upgrades. These sites are located throughout the market. But all outside the Loop. Network Vision Sites in the Chicago market. More than 300 Network Vision sites are complete in the market. Market Launch and Remaining Schedule It was Sprint's original plan to launch markets when they reached 50% of sites converted to Network Vision. However, it has now been determined that Sprint will move up launches sooner than 50% completion in several markets. This is likely to maintain a Mid 2012 launch in markets that have already been announced. However, in an unannounced market like Chicago, we don't know if they will resume pushing back market launches to 50%, or if they will now settle on a 30% - 40% completion to be the new normal for market launches. If Sprint waits for 50% completion to launch the Chicago market, September would be the launch month should Samsung stay on schedule. It is believed that Sprint will launch the market earlier, with less than 50% coverage. This doesn't sound like enough, but it would provide pretty good coverage. Even Verizon doesn't launch on all sites in a market initially. Usually less than 50%, then filling in with more and more sites every few months. Anticipated Sites Complete at Market Launch. According to the Network Vision schedules that S4GRU has reviewed, if Sprint launched the market in September, these are the anticipated sites that would likely have LTE complete at that time. This would provide fairly good LTE coverage over many parts of the market. Sprint is not reporting any of these live Network Vision sites in the Chicago market as currently broadcasting 4G LTE, only 3G EVDO. According to the NV schedule, these should have started coming online in May with LTE. However, none have shown up as LTE active to date. This most likely means that either the backhaul is not quite ready to service 4G LTE, or the 4G cores that these sites are tied to are not quite ready for LTE traffic. A huge backlog of LTE sites will probably come online in this market suddenly when the network is ready. We are getting reports though of S4GRU members in the Chicago area, especially in the Merrillville and Hammond areas, who have been able to connect to 4G LTE for brief intermittent periods. So there are sites that are starting to get LTE capabilities working. They just have not been turned over to Sprint yet from Samsung. The bottom line... We currently do not have the formal "launch" date for the Chicago market. We believe they are targeting a launch month of September based on reports internally within Sprint. After reviewing the schedule, we can see a path to get there. Sprint will likely announce a launch date for this market, and a few others like Austin, Boston, Washington DC and Los Angeles around the time of the first launch. Sprint's schedule for this market currently has 307 Network Vision sites complete, which is almost one third. Samsung is progressing very well. It appears that Sprint and Samsung are speeding up the schedule, as it looks like they are now ahead of schedule in this market. S4GRU has examined the schedule in great detail in this market and sees that most of the sites will be complete by December 2012. However, there are a few sites that will likely linger past the completion. In our estimation of the schedule, Samsung should have no issues meeting Sprint's schedule completion date. Photo of Chicago skyline provided courtesy of Wikimedia Commons. NOTE: S4GRU Sponsor Members can track regular updates of Network Vision sites completed nationwide. Completed sites are shown in an interactive Google Maps interface. Information about sponsorship can be found here: S4GRU Sponsorship