Jump to content

T-Mobile joining the LTE party, finally...


Recommended Posts

Deutsche Telecom has decided to go ahead and fund a LTE buildout for its T-Mobile network. Why, after investing so heavily in its own form of 4G, HSPA+?

The reason could be: that thanks to the $3B and spectrum from AT&Ts breakup fee, they have the means to do it without a large investment by DT, 4G LTE roaming agreements could have been part of AT&T's breakup fee, that they lost nearly a million customers to other networks in the fourth quarter of 2011, they could be partnering with Clearwire for wholesale LTE, they could finally be receiving the iPhone but Apple will not put anything but a LTE radio for 4G in the iPhone 5. It could be any or all of those reasons.

 

Any way you look at it, having all the major carriers using the same technology can only be a good thing when you think that someday there could be LTE roaming argeements and devices that can access LTE on any frequency.

 

http://allthingsd.co...ch-lte-in-2013/

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I got the email notifications exactly at the same time. I had to do a double take because I thought one of you was quoting the other at first. I got a chuckle out of it.

 

Posted via Forum Runner

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I am glad that Tmobile is finally converting to LTE. I think they realize that HSPA+ is not their 4G future and they need to convert to the true 4G standard in LTE. I just like to see the entire wireless industry convert to the same 4G standard and not have a 3G GSM/CDMA battle.

 

Since Tmobile plans to launch LTE in AWS spectrum, I guess this pokes the hole in a potential Sprint/Tmobile LTE network sharing agreement. Also the press release doesn't really tell how much spectrum they plan to use to launch their LTE network. I assume they will start off with a 5x5 configuration and slowly refarm spectrum from there.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

T-Mobile was also looking at other options besides trying to stop the Verizon deal. Now that DT is event giving them some money, I wonder if T-Mo will seek alliance with DISH or if DISH will go with Sprint for network hosting? I don't think DISH is really excited about doing anything with AT&T.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

T-Mobile was also looking at other options besides trying to stop the Verizon deal. Now that DT is event giving them some money, I wonder if T-Mo will seek alliance with DISH or if DISH will go with Sprint for network hosting? I don't think DISH is really excited about doing anything with AT&T.

 

I am sure DISH is not too thrilled with AT&T trying to force DISH to a spectrum sale since it wouldn't be ready to build out its LTE network yet. I hope that Sprint and DISH do partner up for spectrum hosting because its gives Sprint a new source of revenue. Sprint has given its blessing to DISH to build a LTE network as good will. In addition the timeline fits in that by the time Sprint is finished putting up NV towers nationwide, it will have the tower infrastructure to easily add DISH's equipment to support their network. I see a Sprint and DISH spectrum hosting deal as a no brainer but I am just not sure if Sprint is even thinking about that right now unless they are awaiting the FCC approval of Dish's spectrum first before proposing any deals.

Edited by ericdabbs
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Interesting article that provides more details of Tmobile's LTE plans with some nice pictures of their antennas with integrated radios.

 

http://www.extremete...market-by-storm

 

That is a great article. Good find. After reading that article, it almost looks like DT decided it wants to either compete in the US market or set itself up to sell to an entity that is not currently in the wireless game. The graphic on device interoperability is scary to Sprint. They could be the only major wireless carrier who requires special devices...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That is a great article. Good find. After reading that article, it almost looks like DT decided it wants to either compete in the US market or set itself up to sell to an entity that is not currently in the wireless game. The graphic on device interoperability is scary to Sprint. They could be the only major wireless carrier who requires special devices...

 

Tmobile would still require HSPA+ on their AWS band. Also with new chips being able to handle every technology under the the sun, I do not see it as a major problem. They might not have the same ability to get international devices like tmobile or att, but manufactures will still create devices for them. The main problem could be the iphone, but with their 15 billion dollar deal, I am sure they included that provision, plus Europe is suppose to be using the 800mhz( not sure if its similar to 800mhz cellular or ESMR) for LTE and China mobile, who apple supposedly promised the iphone to, is using TD-LTE at 2500mhz.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • large.unreadcontent.png.6ef00db54e758d06

  • gallery_1_23_9202.png

  • Posts

    • https://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/t-mobile-gets-little-closer-accessing-its-25-ghz-spectrum-auction-108 Senator Kennedy's bill to grant the FCC temporary auction authority to finish processing the Auction 108 licenses it has sold to their proper licensees. This would greatly benefit T-Mobile.  This delayed process took what would have been a strategic advantage for T-Mobile (1 one year plus head start)  and turned into catch-up, since AT&T and Verizon haven been busy installing their c-band n77 in rural areas.
    • I configured -44/-3 scenarios on an Edge 2022 to be an invalid connection, so yes, it would show no service.. I didn't realize it was a frequent issue though. How certain are you about the other values? Perhaps they are just unchanged from the previous array of signal information that was reported? If that is the case, I can try to have the app discard -44/-3 datapoints and leave the screen unchanged. I worry about the slippery slope of having it display as -140, because that leads users to believe there is a -140 signal present, when in reality we don't know what the actual reading is.   Haha me and you both wish this!!!
    • Following up, I've gone into the office in person today and took my Edge with me. It looks like it now shows "No service" instead of the -44/-3 value.  I saw a lot of "no service" because it apparently does it a lot.  I'll check again on the train ride home later. Assuming I'm correct, is it possible to have some kind of middle ground on this?  I think it was showing other legitimate values, like the TA, even when it was showing -44/-3.  I'd prefer it show the data it has but at -140 dBm in those cases.  I recognize this could be a pain to implement, and if it is, then no worries, mostly curious. EDIT:  But now I'm sitting here thinking "what if the PCI is bad and I don't know it?"  But that can just as easily be the case on other phones that aren't caught.  I do regularly see bad PCI entries on my other devices, so maybe this isn't the best option.  Bleh, I wish this stuff just worked properly! - Trip
    • Forgot to follow up on this. The service was once again abysmal .
  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...