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Why are they doing that? Incompetence or dishonesty?

Companies ALWAYS say "may". "May experience drowsiness" etc. Its a psych thing.

Friends speed test wasn't able to START on iphone 5 while my VZW iphone 4 got 1mbps. Marketing is gonna get people onto the network but if they can't load Facebook, they're gonna leave very quickly. Sorry but network matters.

That's the cumulative capacity of channels in 5MHz FDD not even the peak theoretical rate of ONE user. That's across 25 (said AJ) EDGE channels. That's 480kbits/sec per channel.

What about more efficient modulation and channel coding?

Theoretical 21 is still higher than theoretical 12

Please elaborate.

Don't you mean 100 MHz?If 20x20 gets 150 Mbps, then 5 times that should bump up the bits/s/Hz.

This isn't Europe. As left-wing as Obama is, FCC is not gonna give non duo carriers a huge carve out. I'll be ecstatic if FCC effectively "reserves" 20 MHz of nationwide 600 for non duo. Like REALLY ecstatic. Laughing-crying ecstatic.

Carriers are deploying LTE for CAPACITY not individual throughout. They deployed it to keep up with demand and have decent data speeds per user, not to give each user 50mbps average speeds. Not sure if you were implying that Sprint might be able to compete with ISPs but don't. A cell tower is shared so the download speeds are divided by number of users. Take Netflix stream, 2.6-3.8mbps, multiply by 100 users and what do you get? More than Sprint will be able to support for a long time.

How would it raise money to move broadcasters off (of frequencies they didn't even pay)?

Neither TMO not Sprint will get into a bidding war with ATT and Verizon. There will be an effective carve-out for non-ATT/VZW carriers but once that is consumed, the rest will be bid up, up, up by VZW/ATT. No duh I don't want duo to get that most. I also want marshmallows to grow on trees. Sprint and TMO can aim as high as they want to but it's tough to argue with 191bil and 146bil market cap. And if the reverse auction doesn't raise enough spectrum, guess who's gonna it all? Mr 191bil and mrs 146bil.

There's always gonna be some people who only use dumb phones AND M2M always need the lowest cost solution. That means WCDMA+ will still be useful to TMO. Think of the data capacity in 5 MHz FDD: for wcdma vs EDGE: 21mbps vs ???1mbps???

They don't need 10x10 600. ATT is running 5x5 on 700 in Chicago so I think Sprint will manage with 5x5 600 in addition to PCS once its all reframed. Why do you think they need 10x10 in 600? Even if they use 800 entirely for voice, they still don't need 10x10 LTE. The only people who are only gonna be within reach of 600 or 800 are: deep within buildings and way out in country. In both cases, its not gonna be a lot of people PER SECTOR.

Who uses the extra 7MHz that band 27 includes and competes with Sprint? Wait, Sprint did something to the detriment of the consumer - and INTEROPERABILITY - for its own interest? But, but ... only the duopoly do that! AJ?

That depends how expensive qualcomm is willing to make it. As CDMA dies, they'll want to keep that revenue up as long as possible by increasing rates.

Up above (I think) Neal said WCDMA+ will be useful in freeing up voice capacity so that GSM can be replaced by WCDMA+ as the new baseline for M2M.

If they refuse to make more CDMA, what choice will Sprint have? With Verizon's 100mil gone, it's a losing game for Sprint. Qualcomm, if it can, will raise rates for CDMA chips to make up for !poof! departure of 100mil potential customers. Who else in the world is still marketing CDMA service? As an engineer, it is sad to see an inferior voice technology win out. According to http://d1sxb0xfyrci7y.cloudfront.net/asset_files/0001/5119/99f87820-4045-012d-1e0f-123136004881/v6/1XAdvanced_Web_08162011_NA_EXT_original.pdf pg 12/16, 1xA has 4/2.1 = 1.9 the capacity of VoLTE. Then again, the network-side engineers must pine for the day when they only have to deal with one network technology.

*effective spectrum.

His point is that with Sprint's 50 mil, no one would lose anything by making devices just for them.

Ok. But what rules means that B26 an B5 are forever separated?

For power output?So does this mean that Apple will never be able to include only B26 but also separately include b5 on different RF path?

It included B5 and B26 is a superset of B5 just like B25 is superset of B2 for Verizon.

Why didn't Apple include b26?