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Yup, same. It appears to us as "1x" over 800MHz or 1x800 on our phones, but I think the technically correct name is 800SMR or perhaps CDMA 800 as Robert has it displayed....as its his website, perhaps that's what we should call it.

Almost. As I understand it: CDMA800 is 1x800SMR so that was 17 updates. Then the 3 LTE updates......the remaining that are unaccounted for 33-17-3=13 are 3G updated at 1900PCS band. There is no "800Mhz 3G", just 1x data/voice and LTE, but no one has 800LTE broadcasting yet, there are a few acceptances in Chicago area for 800LTE. And you are right, it would say 800LTE or something specific for it.

Milliewakay is getting all the acceptance love! I just want these last few Madison towers to go live....

Right, good point about 800LTE and nice comparison to the VZW at 750. I was speaking of 1900LTE since that's all we have at this point. I think 800LTE's indoors signal will be interesting to see once they start flipping it on. I'm certain that it won't be as robust as 800SMR, but perhaps closer to the 1900RTT/3G/eHRPD like you said. If that's the case, there won't be many places (in Madison at least) where one couldn't get an LTE signal (800LTE), which is obviously the point of NV to put them on par with the big 2. Once that happens, I'll get a triband phone for sure.

In my office on UW's Campus over near Camp Randall, my voice quality on 1x800 has been awful. Really choppy audio like I've never had before, I can't really make phone calls on my cell phone. I sent in a report and had my area flagged, but they said I should just move to an area with better signal.....well, it worked here before the 1x800, so why shouldn't it work here now?! They have no response to that. I'm hoping it will get better. They just turned on the 1x800 downtown here, so I think we need to give it a few weeks before raising the pitch forks. I'm not familiar with Airrave's, so I'm not sure you can prioritize that unless you make a custom PRL that prefers those bands. Did you try turning off the airrave to see if that's causing your interference? Perhaps you're getting good enough signal now natively? Mifflin and Ingersol is about 3 blocks from your nearest tower behind Madison Bus depot on Baldwin....you won't need an airrave there anymore I'd guess as you don't have any real impediments like hills between you and it. Once the tower is LTE approved, you should be rocking pretty solid LTE too. It's only 3G accepted now. Hell, the Blount street tower is a little further away towards the capitol, you should be fine for coverage once they finish up those tower acceptances. EDIT: once last thing, firstly do a PRL update on both your phones, second, get the signalcheck app (in my signature) on your phone and tell us what tower address your 1x800 is coming from. I know your downtown one will be 118 Henry, but not sure about the one near your house. Perhaps Baldwin is not broadcasting 1x800 and you're picking it up from somewhere else. Sorry for the two posts in a row, should have just hit the multiquote button.

I asked a similar question in a different thread a while back. I'll do a kinder job than the responses I received and I know you know most of this already..... Basically, each signal tech becomes more and more fragile. So 1xRTT is super robust, 3G is weaker and finally LTE is like tissue paper airplane in a rainstorm. The difference in measurement of RSSI and RSRP levels for the different tech can't really be compared, as you said. That value for 1xRTT isn't that strong compared to what I see around me. I live about 200 yards from a tower at home and see 1x800 and 1xRTT in the range of -45 to -55 (indoors). The accompanying LTE RSRP values are -85 to -95, sometimes I'll break into the high -70s. So, with your scores in the -85 to -90 range for 1xRTT, your LTE is going to be pretty low from what I've experienced. Now that said, after a couple weeks since towers were first turned on around me, I saw an increase in strength and such within other businesses and stores (indoors) in my area and much further reach outdoors. It's hard to judge in my house because my values are maxed out, pretty much. So as you say, I'd wait to get too upset about it yet. There's a location on my drive into work everyday (corner of Nakoma, Odana and Monroe streets) that is just the pits for signal of any kind. Now I pick up LTE there and hold it, albeit its a -110 signal, it holds and can get some data. This started once they turned on the West Washington tower, which doesn't make a lot of sense, but these towers can really cover some distance. I'm excited to see it all tuned.

More Milwaukee love in the acceptance reports! Whoo! However, no change in Madison. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

Me, in Fitchburg? My tower is steady mid 20s down and mid/upper teens up. Always has been. There's no 2600 work there yet nor can I detect it with my phone. On a side note, I had 5 up and down INSIDE West Towne mall shopping today, which for anyone who knows that area is crazy good. And when it fell back on 3G it was a usable 1.8 down, 1 up. Can't wait for 800LTE. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

I don't think merging with T-mobile really "increases their footprint", just doubles up on the footprint that already exists?! They need to expand to rural markets and just put a tower on every 4th power line throughout the country with that $20 billionz.

Just came to post the same thing. This is interesting, but does it make sense with different wireless technologies?! That's always been my criticism.

I agree with some difficulty in how things are parsed out on this website. Great material, but hidden all over the place. Most important stuff is stickied in the The Network Forum → Network, Network Vision/LTE Deployment → Markets I have some links in my signature if you view this in a browser on a computer to helpful things for our area. Also, here is the link for the Site Acceptance Report Updates NV Sites Complete Thread (Sponsor only) -> http://goo.gl/q2nKs Milwaukee, Minnesota, Northern Wisconsin Market maps (Sponsor only) -> http://goo.gl/VX5JPI

Well, taking into account the acceptance reports for the Milwaukee Market in general, it was 28 with 9 of those being LTE. Then if you look at a time lapse of the Milwaukee City Area (in the Milwaukee, MN, Dakotas map thread from Aackman), you can see those towers encroaching on the City itself from the Burbs and identify those new towers from the acceptance reports thread..

Another big round of updates for the Milwaukee area.....it's getting closer. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

Sorry, thought the HTC One Max had the S800. I stand corrected. comments redacted.

I don't know

Just got 55017 today. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

No, state street, 118 Henry, near east and over by the Madison Bus depot further east but still on the isthmus. 4 left down there. but that one should start to help. but they're all broadcasting 1x800.....except for Ruskin up by the airport.

Holy crap. With that West Washington Ave tower on I'm getting LTE inside Jordans Big Ten Bar! This is crazy. I used to have zero signal here, couldn't even send a text. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

Grumpwagon, looks like West Washington Ave tower is LTE accepted. (the Milwaukee Market 1 LTE update) Getting good speeds? I thought it looked strong during my commute last night. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

I connected to 118 Henry, the West Wash one and State Street for 1x800 on my commute in today. I'm assuming that the other two on the near east also have 1x800 putting our city/area at full 1x800SMR.

Finally, the last 5 towers without acceptances in Madison just went 3G accepted! Downtown is going to get usable. UPDATE: They're all broadcasting 1x800 as well. So I'm expecting a transition to LTE soon. The signal in my building and on my commute is way better with these towers active. I'm excited to see how the LTE will fair now in some infamous dead spots on my drive. I think they'll be better considering I was seeing -68dBm on the RSSI for 1x800 in those regions which is very strong, so taking the loss of the signal in the tech for LTE, it should still be better than -100dBm for LTE there you'd think.

I'm at old German beer haus. Downtown. Outside I can get blips of LTE. Inside, awful. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

Good gravy Milwaukee data sucks! :-) ha I've been spoiled by Madison too long. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

Even then, Milwaukee downtown doesn't have very many towers for the density of people and buildings looking at the maps in the sponsor section, in my opinion. So I'm not sure that this light will be very bright at the end of the tunnel. However, you'll probably be able to get service outdoors most places and better. Madison lacks towers in certain locations and sure I could make a phone call, but data is still atrocious. I'm sure hoping that 800LTE will change most of this assessment, but I just still think downtown Milwaukee needs more towers than it has even with NV.

One of the 10 is in Madison on the westside of town.