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Did you know that with many Sprint (Uniband) LTE Android devices, the signal strength indicator at the top does not show your LTE signal strength? Even if 4G or LTE is displayed next to it? That's right! This signal displayed here is your 1x (voice signal), and it is not your 3G EVDO signal strength, nor your LTE signal strength. Regardless of whether it says 3G or 4G next to it. This is the cause of a lot of confusion. Also, third party apps like NetMonitor do not show accurate LTE signal strengths. They also only show the 1x signal strength, even though they may reference being connected to LTE. The purpose of this thread is to help educate the masses, because many people think they have a strong LTE signal, when in fact they do not. And then they are unhappy, thinking that Sprint LTE is really slow, even with a strong signal. LTE performance is very signal strength dependent. So, when you have a weak signal, you can expect much slower than peak results. There is only one accurate way to get your LTE signal strength, and that is from your LTE Engineering screen in your Debug menu. And we will discuss the different ways to get that below. ...In HTC, Motorola & LG Sprint LTE devices: Go in to your phone app, and dial ##DEBUG# Select LTE Engineering Go down to RSRP. The number under RSRP shown in dBm is your LTE signal strength. ...In Samsung Sprint LTE devices: Go in to your phone app, and dial ##DEBUG# Enter 777468 for your lock code Select LTE Engineering Go down to RSRP. The number next to RSRP shown in dBm is your LTE signal strength. ...In the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 5: Go in to your phone app, and dial *#*#DEBUG#*#* Enter 777468 for your lock code Select LTE Engineering Go down to RSRP. The number next to RSRP shown in dBm is your LTE signal strength. The LTE Signal Strength Scale: Now you have determined your actual LTE signal strength in dBms your device is receiving, you can use the following scale below to determine its strength: Better than -88dBm RSRP is a strong signal Between -89dBm and -96dBm is a very good signal Between -97dBm and -105dBm is good Between -106dBm and -112dBm is fair Worse than -113dBm RSRP is poor Feel free to link people to this thread for explanation. Hopefully, this will clear up some confusion out there!

LTE Performance is very signal strength dependent. You likely have a very weak signal from a distant site if you are getting slow speeds and can only get it in one part of your house. People often think they have a good LTE signal strength because their phone shows 4G in the signal strength indicator with lots of "bars". However, the bars in the signal strength indicator in Sprint LTE devices always show the 1x voice signal strength, and not the LTE. Even when it shows the 4G icon. The only way to determine your LTE signal strength is in the Debug menu, under LTE Engineering. Robert

It is located at 9th and Beverly, just west of Morningside Park on the west side of Wichita Falls. It should be much faster than that if you get closer to it. LTE performance is very signal strength dependent. And unfortunately, your device signal strength indicator only shows 1x strength, and never LTE, even when the 4G icon is showing next to it. Maybe you can upload your connection points using the Sensorly app the next time you are out and about. The data posts to this map here: http://sensorly.com/fullscreen/map/4G/US/USA/Sprint/lte_310sprint Robert

It will likely be back before the 21st. Robert

-69dBm RSRP is an extremely strong signal. That's a -44dBm RSSI equivalent signal. You would have been really close to that site, with LOS to the panel to get a signal like that. Robert

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It's not easy to determine what EVDO site you are connected to. If you go to the Debug menu (enter ##DEBUG# in your phone dialer), you will see an EVDO Engineering screen. In that, it will tell you the BSID of the EVDO site you are connected to. And then with trial and error plotting the BSID's, watching the signal strength (only in EVDO Engineering) and using our Sprint site maps for reference, you can probably start narrowing it down and figuring out which site you are connected to. Apps on the market, and the signal strength indicator on your top bar, only show 1x signal strength and 1x locations. They do not show which EVDO or LTE site locations or signal strength. Robert

These announcements only are for communities that Sprint anticipated will have a launchable amount of service before the end of the year. The Missouri market will not likely begin deployment until late Winter. Robert

It's better to be in DC, then say, Northern New Mexico! Well, at least as far as Sprint LTE deployment is concerned. Robert

This was the 1x site you were connected to. Even though NetMonitor will say "Network: LTE" when you have a LTE connection, it will only show the BSID, signal strength and map location for the 1x site you are connected to. These will often be different, especially in urban/suburban locations. Robert

AT&T does not want their iPhone on PCS G Block. Because Sprint is putting LTE on its entire network. AT&T is not doing that. AT&T said repeatedly that it only would provide network wide rural LTE coverage if they received approval of the Tmo deal. When Sprint finishes their build out of LTE toward the end of next year, they will have 4x the rural LTE coverage that AT&T has. And AT&T does not want their devices having the ability to roam on Sprint's LTE network. They would rather just say, 'our phones can't roam on Sprint's LTE network.' And they will be right. Because the AT&T iPhone 5 will not support the PCS G Block. If you look at it, Apple specifically made sure the G Block was ommitted. It would have been just as easy for it to support Band 25, as Band 2. However, someone wanted it to NOT support Band 25. I don't think Apple would care, so that means it must be AT&T that wanted it that way. That's my take on all this. AT&T doesn't want their LTE iPhone to have any ability to roam on Sprint LTE. Sprint's LTE is already starting to appear in places that AT&T has no plans to offer LTE. And that will grow more and more places every quarter for the next year and a half. Robert

We track completed sites in our Sponsor section. We update the maps every week showing which sites Sprint has accepted complete, with which upgrades. Network Vision involves upgrading three things at each site: 3G EVDO upgrades, 800MHz voice upgrades and LTE upgrades. For more information about how to become a Sponsor, visit this link: http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1195-information-about-s4gru-sponsorship-levels-and-how-to-become-a-sponsor/ Robert

We track the latest deployment plans for each market here: http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/ Robert

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No. However, all "towers" will support LTE at some point in time. This. Yes, this is the accurate statement. However, your site in Marengo will likely have LTE within the next 60 days. Robert

It sounds dirty when you say it that way. Robert

It's not lip service. We have been tracking it all year. Sprint is spending billions, nationwide. Robert

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eHRPD is needed in LTE deployment areas (as well as areas adjacent to deployment areas). However, eHRPD has in some cases been deployed 6 months to a year in advance. So, it is not necessarily indicative of LTE imminence. Robert

network.sprint.com does not list all Sprint sites. Only the Sprint sites that have received or will receive maintenance upgrades in a six month rolling window. Robert

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