Terrell352

I would assume with unlocked phones it is better. But I'm curious. Is the update cycle better with T Mobile, or for that matter Verizon, At&t?

July Security patch is out and needless to say, still no VoLTE [emoji849]
 

July update is out. Still no VOLTE

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Agreed.  Verizon is over rated and doesn't serve the hype.  Sprint is under rated and doesn't deserve all the trash talk.  People pick winners and losers and over claim the positives and negatives of each.  They have to have someone to cheer and someone to jeer.  If you aren't first, you're nobody. 
I have a Verizon work phone.  It rarely wins in total speed throughput compared to my Sprint and T-Mobile phones (and USCC on Google Fi).  Verizon doesn't win in coverage in my area.  But it's a pretty consistent experience.  And that's good for a lot of people.  Let them have Verizon.  But Sprint has pulled off nearly a miracle the past few years with little capital infusion, in a highly competitive environment and spending billions still in capex.  They just have had to be very deliberate and measured where and how they spent it.
Every year since 2011 Sprint was nearly going bankrupt in the eyes of the naysayers.  Every year, they would claim this was the year they were going to lose it all.  Yet they still have over 54 million customers.  They are nowhere near bankrupt, and doing better by most measures.  And soon it won't even matter.  Because Mr. Legere will be in charge of it all.  And Sprint will be a forgotten name.  But they were not bought out of bankruptcy sale and were not even close to bankruptcy.
Robert

Exactly T-Mobile covers my town much better than Sprint. but springs highway coverage is pretty good but once you get off the main highway and go a mile West the service drops the roaming or 3-g which is completely useless. so I'm interested to see if the merger will improve things in my area.

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Same since both T-Mobile and Sprint have abysmal rural coverage. 

But then again as well you need coverage for it. Speed is useless without coverage. I don't really care too much about speed what I really care about is a coverage and consistency of the network. Density is also an issue with 5G.

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Max Speed would not change you are still limited by the phone design not the tower. More capacity is needed right now on the 4G side. 4x4 phone on 40Mhz is still 600+Mbps but they still need more right.

Why they don't have the back haul for all that bandwidth? 64x64 MIMO with 100 Mhz is around 24 Gbps per sector with no phones on it. Give it 2-3 years before you have enough devices. Just leave it 32x32 with 60Hz(7Gbps) of 4G and 32x32 with 40+Mhz(5+Gbps) of 5G. Which is still 12 Gbps per sector for the massive MIMO if you have the backhaul and signal strength. Then as you watch people use more 5G move more spectrum over.

Yeah I know. The more spectrum the better considering TMobile will have around 130 customers out of this. In my area the total holdings are 20x20 4 with MFBI 66 20x20+10x10 B2/25 5x5 B25 5x5 B12 15x15 B71 then whatever Sprint holds for B41. I don't know if they plan to use B41 for LTE at the start then shut it down when the 5G capacity is needed.

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Yeah most but not all metros have 10x10 just wish more did to. Mine can't until CDMA is gone. Under TMO they can do 20x20. So under TMobile the upload would be great. That's if they do 25+41+41 
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Yeah unless they were doing 25+41 ca I'm sure upload isn't included

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That’s an interesting approach...

Fiscal 2019 First Quarter Earnings are out...
with a “Message from Management”.
The company had 175,000 net losses in the current quarter compared with 57,000 net additions in the year-ago period and 8,000 net losses in the prior quarter.
Sprint ended the quarter with 54.3 million connections, including 33.1 million postpaid, 8.6 million prepaid, and 12.6 million wholesale and affiliate connections.
175k net losses... ugh.
At least there are ~3,000 MIMO units on air now, but this gives you a sense of the pace of Sprint’s 5G deployment....
“Better than expected”? Not the best take... [emoji53]

Just did a 446MB update to my S10 5G

Only one 20 mhz carrier??

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Did Sprint actually add any backhaul for these Massive MIMO sites for 5G or was it merely an equipment swap?
What would Sprint have to do to provision additional backhaul to these 5G sites? Would it have to run/light up additional fiber or is it a matter of just paying more money on the existing lines for additional backhaul capacity?
How much backhaul is Sprint actually running and how much does it cost? How much more would it cost to bring Sprint’s backhaul up to competitive parity with the backhaul of the other carriers?
It seems to me based on what you’re saying that Millimeter Wave as used/deployed by the other carriers is not only faster because of its inherent spectrum properties, but also because there’s more backhaul capacity running to those sites than Sprint utilizes.

Would the speeds increase if additional backhaul was deployed to these 5G sites, or is this the real-world threshold of Sprint’s 2.5 Spectrum?

All and all I gotta say I was left fairly disappointed and now see why Sprint needs T-mobile.

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Would the speeds increase if additional backhaul was deployed to these 5G sites, or is this the real-world threshold of Sprint’s 2.5 Spectrum?

Yes lets add band 41 to every tower and why not solve the upload problem at the sametime with band 41/25 CA....... Oh no we have been sabotaging the company from the inside for that stupid merger. Saw has done a good job but he has been too slow to implement techs.I am sure he gets his orders from the overlords. The only reason VOLTE has been in a massive deployment in every place now is because they want a seamless  transition with the Tmobile network.

I really believe that Sprint has been sabotaging their network for a long time. Lots of software only upgrades that don’t cost much and they couldn’t do it? I don’t buy it.

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Here’s Sprint’s Unlimited Plan Pricing/Features: https://www.sprint.com/en/shop/plans/unlimited-cell-phone-plan.html
The plans are differentiated by SD/HD/Full HD streaming, Hotspot Allotment, International Roaming Allotment and bundled services. It’s all on the page.
Four lines on:
Unlimited Basic: $140/Month
Unlimited Plus: $180/Month
Unlimited Premium: $220/Month
Vs
Framily: https://newsroom.sprint.com/sprint-redefines-the-wireless-family-with-the-new-sprint-framily-plan.htm
4 lines on Framily with the Unlimited Data add-on for each line is $60/Month per line, for a total of $240/Month.
You should consider switching plans.

No, not really. Both phones constantly flip between 3G and LTE 26 at my place with 1 bar or less. A lot of the time the phone just reads emergency calls only. You'd think in 2019 I'd get signal inside my place in Vegas

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Pixel 3 XL.

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Sprint. Worked for roughly 10 days and stopped over the Holiday weekend.

No one in care or tech support has been of help either. Sucks because I get terrible signal in my place and need it.


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Thanks for testing. It was working previously and has stopped.

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