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Thanks, I'll admit I was not up to speed on what actually happened. Scratch my SNR theory. Now, do you know if they modified that across the board (not so good for high-band like B41) or is there any individuality? Oh, and now I'm bring it back off topic

This will do Sprint no good. I didn't find it very funny, but that's me personally. Nonetheless, in a culture where many "hip" young/middle-aged people are flocking (in noticeable numbers around certain urban areas) to T-Mobile and buying the bs marketing for islands of LTE, or better if they live close enough to a city or urban area where they do get a good (enough) experience: this is troll food at best. I agree with what AJ said, and I also believe regardless of whether that article actually happens or not, it will still be another overused, run-down track for the broken record Sprint-bashing Magentrolls.

More like #OffTopicGate I didn't even realize this was the T-Mobile thread One thing Android does do whether it's CDMA or GSM, Sprint or T-Mobile, is continually seem to confuse data/signal readings depending on the version. In terms of the signal reading ("bars"), I've noticed a difference for at least B17 since the 5.1 release. Instead of getting 1-2 bars for virtually everything and 3 for strong and 4 for "next to tower" strong, I now see a fairly proper fluctuation between 2-5 bars virtually everywhere and only 1 (aka "none") for a weak signal ready to handoff. It seems to take the SNR into account, unless I'm mistaken. Have T-Mobile users on Nexus'/5.1 or newer Custom Roms noticed this (seemingly positive) change for your bands 2 or 4 or even 12? The Band 2 on AT&T seems to reflect this, but I wasn't on B2 too much before the update nor am I yet.

LOL! This one cracked me up too: Wow that was good I think Bell Atlantic's Shamwow is in the same category: Then again, the scariest of them all:

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If you use Windows, a favorite is WiFi Info View. http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/wifi_information_view.html Works on all versions of Windows, XP and later

Yeah, I agree. Perhaps more realistically night hours like 11 pm - 5 am or a stricter set of hours like 1-4 am, but I'd also doubt ever excepting adoption of that. I'm thinking the future will be, or hopefully will be like others suggested in that the carriers offer realistic buckets of data like 2.5, 5, 20, 50 at far more reasonable prices.

A spoonful of magenta helps the magenda go down! (Sorry AJ, magenda is too catchy. I have to get it out of my system )

A big red check, and it has to be good (or so the average American thinks)! Even though Verizon will probably figure out a way to compromise people's e-mail, security and remaining AOL "service" and make them pay for everything imaginable. Very true. Then we'd have Magenda and whatever you want to call Verizon Agenda or Red Agenda. "Verizon news, vNews (wtfe), only $0.89 per click"

That's what I thought when I saw it. As apposed to the other "maverick" (in basically every way), Sprint is to be the maverick that wants to do things right for the long-term for their whole subscriber-base, with a level of honesty and integrity.

I believe we see eye to eye, Adonis, in fact I agree with everything in your post. All carriers have their good and bad. I just get tired of the magenta and red fanboy crowds thinking their shit is the best, to put it quite frankly. Namely how the more extreme of them must constantly go to bat for a hyped up primarily urban carrier, and a baby bell, because they think all good experiences on Sprint, and if not Sprint then on AT&T, are anecdotal at best. Don't get me wrong, there's no denying there are some areas where they both do excel (much of urban coverage for T-Mo, national coverage for VZW). However across the board, there is no true coast-to-coast, market-to-market ubiquity in performance from any of the 4 carriers. AT&T has their clear set of problems and I seriously hope for their sake that they do get what they need to get done this year. I've called them out in a post myself, and just to reiterate, the purpose of my post was to discredit the bs notion that AT&T is crumbling nationwide and leaving all their customers unhappy. As I'm indeed in one of their better markets where they are keeping up, I'm not some unheard of minority. Otherwise, there is no way AT&T would still retain over 120 million subscribers. Side note: I do love Sprint (if people are taking my posts on this thread the wrong way that I have some intergalactic relationship with Ma Bell through the death star mothership), but I like AT&T's service (especially in my short-term situation).

When T-Mobile's LTE is slower than Verizon's EV-DO on a good day, it's now okay since ~1 megabit is fine (on T-Mobile, only; 1 UnCarrier megabit = 10 regular megabits). Because: UnCarrier Data Strong, so that means it can still do everything you need. Otherwise, go on WiFi. Flavor of the month: Too many people are hopping on T-Mobile's network.

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Thank you all for your feedback!

Thank you! Yeah, and I'm not looking for the max EV-DO theoretical speeds or anything. Like I said, a good slice of bandwidth to do those basic tasks with ease and I'd be happy.

Yeah, for anyone to presume you'll only pull 1-3 down just because it's B26 or even B25 is vacuous. Not to mention no one needs more than like 5-6 for 99% of their smartphone needs, so faster speeds are just an added bonus. -- Oh, by the way: What EV-DO speeds do you all on Sprint in touchy LTE, or in 3G areas you've visited average? 0.5 - 1 megabit? I mean it, because before I know it I'll by looking into a new phone, and I want to know if Sprint's upgraded EV-DO is often usable, unlike Verizon's (I can't count the timeouts I had! ). I'm not a huge streamer not video streamer, so I just want to know if in upgraded areas you can do basic web browsing and music streaming with ease like on HSPA+

Oh, but it doesn't stop T-Mobile and Verizon users from ranting and raving about their anecdotal mid-band experiences. Is that what a "true" LTE experience is? A continually tally-tickling (say that 5 times fast) speedtest in either random or frequented areas? This.

For FierceWireless it has been calmer with a level of sanity recently, but the T-Trolls are currently over at TMoNews. Oh, and I'll try poetry (regarding T-Mobile): Still just number four. Promises span through next year. Not yet accomplished.

They all do, but I doubt I'm the only person to say they're too generous when marking the roaming areas.

I filled it out twice I believe. I'd like to see a map using either Google/Bing, far bigger with a full screen or expandable option, and Sprint needs to change their algorithms. Sprint is the only carrier that actually sometimes claims less coverage than is proven on crowd-source maps (cover near borderline roaming areas is underrepresented and they claim roaming where they sometimes have a stronger signal than other carriers). It needs to be at least on par with reality.

It's a good refresh, but I'm still upset to not see an updated coverage map. Their current one is just too small and hideous. There isn't any word on that, is there? They had a survey a month or two ago, but that's about it, I think.

I had Thor on my mind before you said that! Grrr... I should have commented first

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Thank you. You understood what I meant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downstate_New_York I am in and travel around the orange, but I sometimes am around the bordering "yellow" areas sometimes (that I'd consider Upstate). Even some of the yellow is sometimes considered Downstate, although I don't personally consider it that. No, it is only considered Upstate by people in NYC; not by everyone else. Those counties are further south where I believe VZW does a bit better, even T-Mobile is more existent and Sprint's upgrades are currently more pronounced.