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Dan Hesse is that you? 3+ years of work, over a year behind schedule, a massively botched deployment,  and we "live in the "I want it now" and have zero patience" - I don't think most people would agree with your description.

 

It is 2.5 weeks away from 2015. 25% of Sprint's sites should not be waiting on upgraded backhaul.

Egh, you caught me!  

But back to your response, how is Network Vision a year behind schedule? I think the majority of the S4GRU community would disagree with you. I mean we are talking about 45,000+ sites nationwide not to mention the Clear sites that are receiving Network Vision love, a new network built from the ground up, countless hours of site optimizations, and advanced backhaul that AJ (WiWavelength) mentioned a few posts above that is being deployed to every site rural and urban.  Where did you get that 25% of Sprint's sites still need advanced backhaul, because it's less than 25%.  If customers do not like Sprint's service then they should leave and come back another time if they feel the need to do so.

This is being discussed here

What?!  Marcelo is not magic like John Legere and "rock star" Neville Ray?!  Aw, Sprint sucks!

 

Back to reality, many people do not realize that T-Mobile spent about three and a half years running advanced backhaul -- Neville Ray said as much in an interview.  And that advanced backhaul was run only to some of T-Mobile's sites, not all of T-Mobile's sites.  The time that took is a big reason why T-Mobile circa 2009 was roughly four years behind Sprint in its 3G deployment in many cities.

 

Fast forward to today.  Sprint is about three years in to its advanced backhaul project.  But Sprint is running advanced backhaul to all sites, not just those in cherry picked urban islands.  In certain areas, Sprint's progress may not be as fast as some would like.  But it exceeds what T-Mobile was able to accomplish during its three year advanced backhaul rollout.  Moreover, T-Mobile is just now getting around to most of its rural sites -- eight years later.

 

So, there is your dose of perspective...

 

AJ

Thanks AJ for your technical expertise  , a lot people live in the "I want it now" and have zero patience when it comes to waiting.  I think Sprint has done a phenomenal job in handling Network Vision in the urban and rural environments along with their nationwide LTE rollout.  All of people can't get their heads wrapped around that Sprint is basically building a new network from the ground up.

I do not know how many sites T-Mobile has versus Sprint, I do know that T-Mobile's network here in the Bristol and surrounding area is a rewind back to 2002 with the exception of a few spots in the Kingsport, TN area.  

Since Marcelo was appointed has there been an increase in the speed at which the sites are receiving upgraded backhaul across the country?

 

There is not much Marcelo can do, OEMs/contractors/sub-contractors are working steadily as work is available to them (engineering, permitting,etc).  Marcelo did however change the way B41 was to be rolled out, now "trouble areas" that are strained due to capacity issues will get B41 attention first.  

I don't see them re-farming any of the PCS spectrum until they have solid LTE coverage and start mitigating over to VoLTE, then its possible to see them start refarming 800 SMR and 1900 PCS.  Having said that we are talking years down the road not anytime soon, 1x voice and 3G EV-DO is here to stay. 

i agree because then they dont have the capex to build out their networks and acquire more spectrum

I hope your not including Sprint when you say "they..." *cough* SoftBank *cough*

Now the question is phones 5.5'' or greater more susceptible to being stolen?  

 

still makes me wonder why a handful of apps didnt erase????

Bloatware?

Ditto on SNR. 

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I am obviously asking my question wrong, so let's try again: According to the NV sites complete map listed on this website, all of the sites around me have been 3G upgraded and most have been 4G upgraded. Now here is the two part question: why is the upgraded 3G still so slow, and why is it that it seems like most of the time I am on 3G when there is lots of 4G around me?

To answer your question regarding the 3G completed sites:  This means that the site has received the new network vision hardware (panels, RRUs, basestations, etc) the backhaul on 3G completed sites is usually the legacy backhaul (bundled T1) until the ISP can get to the site to upgrade the backhaul for LTE, this is why when your on 3G its still slow but you should have a better signal.  The maps here on S4GRU mean that 4G is "accepted" which means its not necessarily broadcasting a live LTE signal, the LTE side of the site still needs to be integrated by a technician.  This could takes days, weeks, or even months depending on how many techs are in and around your area.  

I Understand the EHRPD is no faster than EVDO. My point in specifying EHRPD was to indicate that the 3G cell sites have been upgraded.

eHRPD does not mean that a site has been upgraded.  eHRPD is just a software upgrade to sites that will accept  it including legacy sites which will allow for smooth transitions between EV-DO and LTE.

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Mike has released a fix to address the frequency/band issue, I just received it from the PlayStore,

I think sprint needs to invest in putting up more towers in every market.  In my option towers are to far away from each other.

Sprint hasn't done many new sites in the last six years, I don't look for them to start adding new sites anytime soon until they start wrapping up their 2.5 TD-LTE deployment.  I could see them coming back and adding new sites later on down the road.   

Nope. Just clear.

 

 

So whats the difference between Clear and Sprint's B41, are Clear sites not going with the 8T8R radios?  

This was posted on a site I frequent and was wondering if anyone had any thoughts regarding this considering that service has  not really improved or like here, has gotten consistently worse.

 

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Sprint-Declares-Their-Network-Vision-Substantially-Complete-131775

 

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We have 4G here and it was fast when they rolled it out but it has gotten horrible. I ran speedtests yesterday which averaged 1/.10. The 3G never got improvements. Until Sprint makes some real network improvements (we don't have spark here) they will continue to be irrelevant. I have been with Sprint for a long time and put up with the b.s. over the years but 2015 will be the last year I give them. I will wait it out for Spark to be deployed here and hope that it makes some sort of improvement but judging by what other people are saying in some markets Spark doesn't change a thing.

 

Either Sprint is doing something wrong, there are some technical issues, or maybe they took a technically cheap route at network vision; idk. 

 

Any thoughts?

Sprint is implying that Network Vision 1.0 the actual rip and replace of the legacy hardware (basestations, panels, radio units, etc) is substantially complete, nothing was stated that LTE was substantially complete.  Sprint's LTE network grows with every passing day as more sites get LTE.  You have to remember that this network was basically built from the ground up while also optimizing the new network and maintaining their legacy network at the same time, pretty darn impressive if you ask me.  

Now that Network Vision 1.0 is getting wrapped up its time to improve on that with Network Vision 2.0.  Network Vision 2.0 will add Sprint's 2.5GHz Band 41 holdings to their LTE network.  The use of 8T8R radios (eight transmit/eight receive) on their LTE TDD 2.5 will help push that signal further and give it a speed boost, this will be another hardware install to Sprint's sites.  

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Concerning SCP 4.262b everything is behaving well Mike, also I sent you a PM.

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