DISH and nTelos Test 2.5 GHz Fixed Broadband in Rural Virginia

[bigsnake49]

 

P.S. Those speeds are nice, but 10x10 FD-LTE rel 8 can do better in an unloaded situation like that, and the latency on that connection is just horrid for LTE with an obviously-good signal. Also, Bandluxe is a lower-end provider of equipment than AlcaLu or whoever...Dish said they were using Alcatel-Lucent and Ericsson gear for the deployment, but I guess they just meant the base stations. To be fair though, they aren't the first in the US to do this; Bend Broadband in Oregon used AlcaLu base stations and Bandluxe modems for their AWS HSPA+ network a few years back (they've since moved to LTE).

 

 

We don't know the channel size, the number of people on the channel, the MIMO configuration at the basestation and the end user modem, the distance from the basestation, etc, etc.

 

But I agree with you. Sprint can get somethings out of this if they are not too hung up on Charlie abrasive methods.

[bigsnake49]

Hold on.  Clearwire does not control every single ounce of BRS/EBS 2600 MHz spectrum in every single market across the country.  Dish or nTelos could easily be licensed some BRS in rural Virginia, but I would have to check.  I am not going to check EBS, however, because it is a pain in the ass to track down.

 

AJ

 Clearwire has BRS in 411 out of 493 BTAs. EBS licenses are licensed wierdly in that they are circles around a point of 25 miles radius. The point being the education institution or Catholic church/school.

Edited June 15, 2013 by bigsnake49

[WiWavelength]

 Clearwire has BRS in 411 out of 493 BTAs. EBS licenses are licensed wierdly in that they are circles around a point of 25 miles radius. The point being the education institution or Catholic church/school.

 

Right, I am aware of those facts.  But another fact to consider is that Clearwire does not hold all BRS in all of those BTAs.  In some, Clearwire shares BRS with at least one other licensee.

 

AJ

[bigsnake49]

Right, I am aware of those facts.  But another fact to consider is that Clearwire does not hold all BRS in all of those BTAs.  In some, Clearwire shares BRS with at least one other licensee.

 

AJ

 

It would be really nice to know the Clearwire's exact holdings  for both the BRS and EBS spectrum by BTA.

[avb]

With all the talk about Clearwire holding somewhere between 100-160 mhz of spectrum, does Sprint really need that?  I would think if they get 40mhz and use that in high traffic areas it would be enough bandwidth for the foreseeable future, and let Dish/Clearwire do whatever they want with the rest.  Or up that amount to 60 or 80 mhz for additional headroom in the future, but you'll still leave Dish/Clearwire some spectrum for their own purpose.

[WiWavelength]

It would be really nice to know the Clearwire's exact holdings  for both the BRS and EBS spectrum by BTA.

 

I started that project for BRS.  I might go ahead and finish it.  But no way am I doing EBS for free.  Tracking those site based licenses is a Herculean headache and a half.

 

AJ

[WiWavelength]

With all the talk about Clearwire holding somewhere between 100-160 mhz of spectrum, does Sprint really need that?  I would think if they get 40mhz and use that in high traffic areas it would be enough bandwidth for the foreseeable future, and let Dish/Clearwire do whatever they want with the rest.  Or up that amount to 60 or 80 mhz for additional headroom in the future, but you'll still leave Dish/Clearwire some spectrum for their own purpose.

 

Not exactly.  WiMAX spectrum usage is all over the map.  Cutting its BRS/EBS spectrum resources back to even 80 MHz would hamper Clearwire in its ability to continue to operate WiMAX and deploy TD-LTE.  Clearwire needs as much BRS/EBS spectrum as it can for the next several years as it runs WiMAX and TD-LTE in parallel.

 

AJ

[supert0nes]

Not exactly.  WiMAX spectrum usage is all over the map.  Cutting its BRS/EBS spectrum resources back to even 80 MHz would hamper Clearwire in its ability to continue to operate WiMAX and deploy TD-LTE.  Clearwire needs as much BRS/EBS spectrum as it can for the next several years as it runs WiMAX and TD-LTE in parallel.

 

AJ

 

Clearwire's ability to afford running a Wimax network may decrease significantly if Sprint can move move most/all customers off of the network before usage based billing kicks in.

[WiWavelength]

Clearwire's ability to afford running a Wimax network may decrease significantly if Sprint can move move most/all customers off of the network before usage based billing kicks in.

 

But Clearwire has other wholesale WiMAX contracts that it must honor.  It is safe to say that WiMAX will not be going anywhere before 2015.

 

AJ

[irwinshere]

A bankrupcy could change all of that.

 

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[WiWavelength]

A bankrupcy could change all of that.

...and would probably signal the end of Sprint, too.

 

AJ

[bigsnake49]

Clearwire's ability to afford running a Wimax network may decrease significantly if Sprint can move move most/all customers off of the network before usage based billing kicks in.

Only because they chose to deploy an n=3 Wimax reuse pattern. Which means they can be lazy about network optimization.