Jump to content

Largest markets without LTE


Recommended Posts

After reading the latest list of 28 market roll-out it made me wonder what the criteria is that Sprint uses to update a market. A few of these markets are towns that I honestly have heard of. And many more that I have heard of I know are small towns.

 

It made me wonder what are the largest markets that currently have Sprint 3G service but no mention of 4G? (Not that they haven't started or finished yet but no mention of the market at all).

 

My market is Des Moines, IA - a market of about 500,000 people. To my knowledge, Des Moines, or any town in Iowa for that matter, has not even been mentioned by Sprint as of yet. Unusually, or are there many, many examples of this?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just a preemptive reminder, folks, that Network Vision is not proceeding with a population focused deployment model. Sprint, vendors, and contractors are working as quickly as possible with the resources available. Some locales will see Network Vision deployment before others. That is just the nature of the game because it is infeasible to deploy everywhere simultaneously.

 

Now, this thread will stay open as long as the discussion remains factual. But if turns to carping about unfairness, market worthiness, etc., then it will be closed in the blink of an eye.

 

AJ

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

After reading the latest list of 28 market roll-out it made me wonder what the criteria is that Sprint uses to update a market. A few of these markets are towns that I honestly have heard of. And many more that I have heard of I know are small towns.

 

It made me wonder what are the largest markets that currently have Sprint 3G service but no mention of 4G? (Not that they haven't started or finished yet but no mention of the market at all).

 

My market is Des Moines, IA - a market of about 500,000 people. To my knowledge, Des Moines, or any town in Iowa for that matter, has not even been mentioned by Sprint as of yet. Unusually, or are there many, many examples of this?

 

Samsung has already started work in all three Iowa markets. Sprint announcements are more about crystal ball guesses of where they think stars will align for launches. It has nothing to do with where work is occurring.

 

There is already one site accepted as complete in Iowa. In a town called Anamosa. There are dozens of sites in the state being worked on. Des Moines will likely have a site live and complete before some of these cities listed even get their first site working. I wouldn't put too much weight in those lists. They are not exhaustive by any means.

 

Lots of cities had their first sites complete before being announced on those lists. And there are some cities on those lists who don't have their first site complete even 5 months later. The best way to track Network Vision/LTE deployment is on S4GRU Sponsor maps.

 

Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I live in New York City and we don't seem to be getting LTE anytime soon. I would tend to think that we are pretty big market. Not to mention that are all around data speeds on Sprint are just crap here.

 

I know that sprint wants to try and make money but my feeling is if you don't have the data service available you shouldn't sell phones that are capable of 4G LTE until you have the service available. And you certainly should be charging us for something we don't have. I'm paying an extra 10 dollars a month for service that isn't even available.

 

I've had my galaxy s3 for over 6 months and the service is just been terrible. And this is in New York City. Sprint needs to get the led out. When I purchase the phone the salesperson told me that we were supposed to be getting 4g LTE by the end of October. Never happened.

 

I tell you something else that isn't going to happen. I will not be renewing my contract in June when it's up. I would rather pay the extra money to Verizon and enjoy decent connections than keep paying sprint for something that they might get.

 

Sent from the other side!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I live in New York City and we don't seem to be getting LTE anytime soon. I would tend to think that we are pretty big market. Not to mention that are all around data speeds on Sprint are just crap here.

 

I know that sprint wants to try and make money but my feeling is if you don't have the data service available you shouldn't sell phones that are capable of 4G LTE until you have the service available. And you certainly should be charging us for something we don't have. I'm paying an extra 10 dollars a month for service that isn't even available.

 

I've had my galaxy s3 for over 6 months and the service is just been terrible. And this is in New York City. Sprint needs to get the led out. When I purchase the phone the salesperson told me that we were supposed to be getting 4g LTE by the end of October. Never happened.

 

I tell you something else that isn't going to happen. I will not be renewing my contract in June when it's up. I would rather pay the extra money to Verizon and enjoy decent connections than keep paying sprint for something that they might get.

 

Sent from the other side!

 

You poor thing!

  • Like 6
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I live in New York City and we don't seem to be getting LTE anytime soon. I would tend to think that we are pretty big market. Not to mention that are all around data speeds on Sprint are just crap here.

 

I know that sprint wants to try and make money but my feeling is if you don't have the data service available you shouldn't sell phones that are capable of 4G LTE until you have the service available. And you certainly should be charging us for something we don't have. I'm paying an extra 10 dollars a month for service that isn't even available.

 

I've had my galaxy s3 for over 6 months and the service is just been terrible. And this is in New York City. Sprint needs to get the led out. When I purchase the phone the salesperson told me that we were supposed to be getting 4g LTE by the end of October. Never happened.

 

I tell you something else that isn't going to happen. I will not be renewing my contract in June when it's up. I would rather pay the extra money to Verizon and enjoy decent connections than keep paying sprint for something that they might get.

 

Sent from the other side!

Nyc does have lte in certain areas already. Check out senorly. Nyc is going to take some time before there is "100%" coverage. Like robert said work is happening even in markets that have not been announced. I wouldnt be surprised it this thread get locked for not following the rules.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well, this did not take long...

 

Nice job, Yanker. Either you could not be bothered to read the whopping three posts ahead of you in this thread, or you chose not to follow the posted admonition that this thread would not be allowed to turn into a market complaint thread. Regardless, you made a big Bronx cheer and stunk up the place.

 

Furthermore, your facts are wrong. You are paying the $10 premium data fee for unlimited smartphone data, not 4G. And the Bronx actually has quite a bit of LTE deployment already. That you personally do not have LTE is nothing more than circumstance. But you play the victim of circumstance very well.

 

AJ

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I probably shouldn't even respond to this, but this is just too much...

I live in New York City and we don't seem to be getting LTE anytime soon. I would tend to think that we are pretty big market. Not to mention that are all around data speeds on Sprint are just crap here.

 

I know that sprint wants to try and make money but my feeling is if you don't have the data service available you shouldn't sell phones that are capable of 4G LTE until you have the service available. And you certainly should be charging us for something we don't have. I'm paying an extra 10 dollars a month for service that isn't even available.

 

I've had my galaxy s3 for over 6 months and the service is just been terrible. And this is in New York City. Sprint needs to get the led out. When I purchase the phone the salesperson told me that we were supposed to be getting 4g LTE by the end of October. Never happened.

 

I tell you something else that isn't going to happen. I will not be renewing my contract in June when it's up. I would rather pay the extra money to Verizon and enjoy decent connections than keep paying sprint for something that they might get.

 

Sent from the other side!

 

I see your location is the Bronx, here is a screenshot from Sensorly (which is the first thing I see every time I open Sensorly maps on my phone)

 

 

 

I don't think anything good will come of this thread. I suggest just going ahead and closing it now.

post-6294-0-09624800-1358527443_thumb.png

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • large.unreadcontent.png.6ef00db54e758d06

  • gallery_1_23_9202.png

  • Posts

    • So, in summary, here are the options I tested: T-Mobile intl roaming - LTE on SoftBank, routes back to the US (~220ms to 4.2.2.4) IIJ physical SIM - LTE on NTT, local routing Airalo - LTE on SoftBank and KDDI (seems to prefer SoftBank), routed through Singapore (SingTel) Ubigi - 5G on NTT, routed through Singapore (Transatel) US Mobile East Asia roaming - 5G on SoftBank, routed through Singapore (Club SIM) Saily - 5G on NTT, routed through Hong Kong (Truphone)...seems to be poorer routing my1010 - LTE on SoftBank and KDDI (seems to prefer KDDI), routed through Taiwan (Chunghwa Telecom) I wouldn't buy up on the T-Mobile international roaming, but it's a solid fallback. If you have the US Mobile roaming eSIM that's a great option. Otherwise Ubigi, Airalo, or my1010 are all solid options, so get whatever's cheapest. I wouldn't bother trying to find a physical SIM from IIJ...the Japanese IP is nice but there's enough WiFi that you can get a Japanese IP enough for whatever you need, and eSIM flexibility is great (IIJ as eSIM but seems a bit more involved to get it to work).
    • So, the rural part of the journey still has cell service for nearly all the way, usually on B18/19/8 (depending on whether we're talking about KDDI/NTT/SoftBank). I think I saw a bit of B28 and even n28 early on in the trip, though that faded out after a bit. Once we got to where we were going though, KDDI had enough B41 to pull 150+ Mbps, while NTT and SoftBank had B1/B3 IIRC. Cell service was likewise generally fine from Kawaguchiko Station to Tokyo on the express bus to Shinjuku Station, though there were some cases where only low-band LTE was available and capacity seemed to struggle. I also figured out what I was seeing with SoftBank on 40 MHz vs. 100 MHz n77: the 40 MHz blocks are actually inside the n78 band class, but SoftBank advertises them as n77, probably to facilitate NR CA. My phone likely preferred the 40 MHz slices as they're *much* lower-frequency, ~3.4 GHz rather than ~3.9, though of course I did see the 100 MHz slice being used rather often. By contrast, when I got NR on NTT it was either n28 10x10 or, more often, 100 MHz n78. As usual, EMEA bands on my S24 don't CA, so any data speeds I saw were the result of either one LTE carrier or one LTE carrier plus one NR carrier...except for B41 LTE. KDDI seems to have more B41 bandwidth live at this point, so my1010 or Airalo works well for this, and honestly while SoftBank and NTT 5G (in descending order of availability) have 5G that's readily available it may be diminishing returns, particularly given that I still don't know how to, as someone not from Hong Kong, get an eSIM that runs on SoftBank 5G that isn't the USM "comes for free with the unlimited premium package" roaming eSIM (NTT is easy enough thanks to Ubigi). In other news, I was able to borrow someone's Rakuten eSIM and...got LTE with it. 40 Mbps down, 20 Mbps up, 40ms latency to Tokyo while in Tokyo...which isn't any worse than the Japan-based physical SIMs I had used earlier. But not getting n77 or n257 was disappointing, though I had to test the eSIM from one spot rather than bouncing around the city to find somewhere with better reception. It's currently impossible to get a SIM as a foreigner that runs on Rakuten, so that was the best I could do. Also, I know my phone doesn't have all the LTE and 5G bands needed to take full advantage of Japanese networks. My S24 is missing: B21 (1500 MHz) - NTT B11 (1500 MHz) - KDDI, SoftBank B42 (3500 MHz) - NTT, KDDI, SoftBank n79 (4900 MHz) - NTT Of the above, B42/n79 are available on the latest iPhones, though you lose n257, and I'm guessing you're not going to find B11/B21 on a phone sold outside Japan.
    • T-Mobile acquiring SoniqWave's 2.5 GHz spectrum  Another spectrum speculator down! T-Mobile is acquiring all of their licenses and their leases. Details are lacking but it looks like T-Mobile might be giving them 3.45GHz in exchange in some of the markets where they're acquiring BRS/EBS to sweeten the deal and stay below the spectrum screen. Hopefully NextWave is at the negotiating table with T-Mobile so NYC can finally get access to the full BRS/EBS band as well. 
    • Maybe. The taller buildings on one side of the street all have Fios access and the NYCHA buildings are surrounded by Verizon macros that have mmWave. I don’t think this site will add much coverage. It’d be better off inside the complex itself.
  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...