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then you end up paying more $ which is your choice....AND have to deal with data caps or throttling... Phones are not a question they are coming as are speeds. Pricing is only thing that "might" change but I honestly cant see it changing at all since we already pay the $10 data charge anyway. Will be tough to say that LTE deserves another fee ontop of the changes that came with WiMax introduced long ago...

Yeah just trying to wrap my head around the reasoning for NOT putting LTE on all sites when doing the tests.... BUT with NV the LTE is actually "there" just not "turned on" correct? Or are you saying they rolled out the NV tower upgrade there and didn't even include the LTE hardware on those FIT's? If its my first guess then I can see that and them just wanting to do more tests on the 3G network w/o LTE turned on in that area for a little bit. If its the later of what I said then I dunno why they'd do it that way less they are contemplating changing something big hardware wise on the LTE side...no?

man I would LOVE to get those speeds at normal times here!!! come to Raleigh, NC and you'll see speeds less than half that most of the time...

Who needs sprint when the info is right here bud? lol http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-43-samsung-network-visionlte-deployment-schedule-details-for-sprints-chicago-market/

very nice write up there! Found it very interesting that they did a FIT with no LTE while the others are being deployed with it. Did I miss reading the reason why this was done exactly?

yeah they the stuff i added to my post shows they actually applied for the slide unlock a year before the iphone even came out. BUT also mentioned in that article a particular Dutch court ruled it invalid b/c this other phone had the feature out before that patent was even filed...

fact that they were awarded that freaking slide unlock patent not even a year ago is a crime in itself... Also knowing that a Dutch court has already ruled that particular patent invalid has to be promising at the least bit for that portion.. http://9to5mac.com/2...nlock-patented/ also in this article i found it funny someone took the time to list a TON of other very similar patents dealing with gestures on screens. lol http://www.zdnet.com...-to-unlock/5199 *As for the one against HTC I remember HTC commenting on that one saying that it was a simple fix for them to go around it and it was not a big issue. That patent they have till April 19th to fix anyway I'm pretty sure.

Well when manufacturers start thinking a little more like how Moto did with the Razor Max you'll get closer to it. Can't tell you how much it boggles my mind that they continue to try to make phones so freaking thin but in the process still leave a "bump out" on the back for where the camera is and such. Make the back flush and battery bigger and that solves a good chunk of battery life...

Reading that just made me remember all the android@home stuff.....wish that would just come on out already. OR least the current stuff on the market for home automation would come down in price for us normal folks. haha

If I had to take a guess Charlotte,NC and Richmond, VA would be in the first round. Would love for it to be Raleigh but just dont see that happening...

Yeaaaaaaaaa for the one doing my state. lol

This is why Clear is still very important to Sprint imho. without them Sprint Spectrum holdings is hurting in the long run big time no? Dont they own something like 90-150MHZ of the spectrum in most markets? think thats what I read last, though that was long ago too...That spectrum there trumps the big dogs, and when tech advances and we can have the phones use the same power the external clear modems do signal issues will go away for most part. Just need tech to advance to be able to do that.

very interesting there. I always thought it was weird that WiMax was only provisioned to work on those 3 freq while LTE is to work on a ton of wide range freq. Didn't make much sense to me less they can figure out a way to boost the signal penetration on those freq or least alleviate that problem whether it be from the handset side(stronger power modem in phone) or the tower side somehow. Otherwise trying to "standardize" the use of WiMax makes no sense if that means current tech(phones/towers) can't supply signal to enough users... Here is how bad its implemented right now. I'm 0.5mi from the tower and I get 0 bars for WiMax on my phones outside my home. I'm between 2 towers evidently and the one i'm closest to has its antennae pointed away from me more less so I get the short side of the signal from that tower...(made no sense to me at first b/c I always thought they provided a perfect circle of signal around the tower and wasn't directional in the slightest bit. Guess at least in my case thats not the case as I have had probably over 30 calls escalated and super high advance tech and CS to try to get this fixed including them sending out field surveyors to re-do the coverage map since it showed me able to get full in house signal at my home...That obviously never happened since they are not putting $ in WiMax anymore....Just lucky I get WiFi 90% of where I am. lol

Id be willing to bet you wont see 800MHz LTE surported devices till closer to the official shut off date for iDEN. I did see the HTC phone with dual LTE band support the other day though....http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/08/vodafone-htc-velocity-lte-germany/ When you talk about 800MHz supported LTE devices you also have to think about the ones that will handle Clear's spectrum too for when they make the switch over....thats 3 bands there but dont think they ALL will be used till after 2015 when Sprint isn't supporting WiMax "officially" anymore.

Yeah saw this a few min ago on engadget and just had to laugh at it. I mean really they already control over 70% of the spectrum below 1GHz, wtf else do they need/want to do? lol

WiWavelength, Yeah I came across it as it was one of few things that has some info in it. This article just made me want to know more exactly as to what areas they own what exact spectrum and how much of it. Like me not seeing Raleigh(my home, lol) in the spreadsheet just makes me want to know more at the least about their holdings here and else where to try to get a grasp on their possibilities. When i was doing the looking around the info was so sporadic and even conflicting at times it made it seem like getting the real info would take forever to piece together. LTE wise though I just wanna see them pump Clearwire full of $$ and allow that spectrum to be used like it could if done right. too much bandwidth there to let sit around. There is a solution to be found to help the building penetration/coverage issues they have with current WiMax config. Solve that riddle and bandwidth issues are a thing of the past no?

solid article. Do you by chance have a map/spreadsheet showing all of sprints spectrum holdings exactly detailed out? Been looking for one for awhile and always seem to get old info with them or just bits of it, not showing exactly all the details.

yeah but its not major enough to classify it as a feature to warrant the "need" for it to satisfy customers...Esp when you consider everything moving toward communicating through your home network.

Like the site, Just wish when you are looking at the MAIN & Sub Forums where it shows the time the most recent thread that was replied to in each section, BUT only shows it as the Day ie. today it showed "Feb 7." on them. I wish on this page it also showed the actual Time of day that post was made too...

its going to be outdated. everything is going to being networked in the home and in the end you'll be able to control everything in the home through your home network.

I am eager to see how it will actually work; and if its how I assume it will, then I can not wait for the absolute uproar from users when they complain about it killing their battery life b/c it keeps cycling the radio on/off....I would hope there is a better way than doing it like that though...odd they do this with WiMax now with it only being around for 3 more years and no more devices made with it either...eagerly awaiting to see the full blown SmithMicro MobileNetwork Manager deployed on devices to see how it really ticks. Last Evo3D update had a smith.apk but looks just like a general logger and not it.

Okay that's what i figured. Though personally I'm surprised that they would waste time this year adding any lines to towers if they are just going to do away with them when the tower gets upgraded in the NV rollout and switched to fiber...or am I missing something there as in the existing runs would still be used somehow? I still can't get over the whole Wimax offload mentioned earlier. Seems like it will cause more problems to users than they want, less the actual offloading is done at the tower somehow and the users Wimax radio isn't involved, but that seems like a stretch at best to me. No? Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk

Nice article write up there with solid information! I did notice you said they were currently adding T1 to some towers in certain areas to help aid issues in the mean time. Is this really correct? The line item the tech I have been in talks with showed "T1 EVDO..." for my tower and I was just under the assumption that the "T1" was really an old place holder they have kept around. Adding T1 lines to towers seems a bit "old school" and I would think a regular T1 line would add little if any help to a tower by itself as a T1 line is 24 individual channels, each of which supports 64kbps if i remember correctly. I would think that at an absolute minimum they would be adding T3/DS3 lines to towers if not OC3 lines really....no??? Also the WiMax offload you mentioned in that article is very interesting information and finally makes some sense as to wtf Sprint was planning to do with the SmithMicro agreement announced earlier. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sprint-selects-mobile-network-director-124500905.html Now how they actually implement this is going to be very interesting to me personally. Usually IF someone can even connect to WiMax/4G then they will. It seems forcing the connection would do a great amount of harm to the battery in that the only way would be to keep cycling the wimax radio on/off to see if it can get signal and connect....

Yeah they didn't give any real #'s for improvements expected but heres a link to one of the vid's they talk some about it along with some other stuff they are working on, on the side like facial recognition... http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/12/live-from-the-engadget-ces-stage-an-interview-with-qualcomm/ and another post about it. http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/13/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-msm8960-development-tablet-hands-on-vide/

I was under the impression that NetworkVision isn't directly going to help speeds in Sprints current "troubled" areas. the whole NetworkVision thing is mainly about Sprint being able to cover more area with less towers since they will be able to switch between all freq seamlessly. It will help speeds in areas where if you currently get 2 bars of signal, and then after the upgrade you are getting stronger better signal, but areas that are troubled and over capacity greatly I understand it wont help them as much. Example my tower I'm within .5mi to my home and it is extremely over capacity which in turn has absolutely destroyed my 3G speeds here. Full signal and I along with everyone else pull speeds way below Sprints posted Average's(600kbps). 6am I can pull about 500kbps, and then by 11am speeds drop already off to 300kbps average for me and never get better. So for people like me in my situation, which is a ton of people, speeds wont improve until they add the backhaul to the tower to handle the capacity. In my case thats set to be done by 3/30 according to the last chat I had where the Advance Tech rep screenshot me the orders for that tower exactly.