JohnHovah

The N5???

yes. I don't know if it is related to the LTE launch in my specific area as we are not fully deployed, but in gMaps and others that depend on GPS I will find it jumping all over the place in the last few weeks

I hope they include a final GPS fix in the spark update, it's buggier than a crackwhore

 

 

Still not supported 

Give it a week, perhaps the changes are slowly propagating through their systems.  Some here reportedly could see it beginning last week, mine didn't refresh until today.   It all works out in the end though 

If I recall SoftBank started to get ready to acquire TMO when Dish started to mess up the Sprint buyout.

 

My assumption is that SB always had a vision to cobble Sprint/TMO/ClearWire together.

 

 

 

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Hesse and Son have history which we have discussed extensively in past posts when we would still refer to old craig mccaw

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One, I do not think my post "condescending."  I just say it like it is.

 

Two, I have to assume you are factoring in the $20 charge for "unlimited" data, correct?  So, exactly how much Sprint data do you use per month?  And do you have some sort of volume pricing discount on your current plan?

 

AJ

 

I'm on the Everything Plus referral plans, so there is a small discount, but I'm comparing old EPRP to new EPRP, not EPRP to regular plans.

 

I have two lines with smartphones and one line with a flip phone. The minimum bill under my current (old) Everything Plus Data 1600 plan is $95 + $14.99 + $14.99 for voice, text, and data, and $10 + $10 for required Premium Data, so my minimum bill is $144.98.

 

Under the EP My Way plans (which are the only currently offered EPRP plan as of today), I would pay $50 + $40 + $30 for voice and text, and $20 + $20 for the required smartphone data plan, so my minimum bill would be $160, and the flip phone would lose all data access.

 

Under the new Framily plan, if I understand it correctly, I would pay $45 + $45 + $45 for voice, text, and 1GB data, and $20 + $20 for my two smartphone lines to get unlimited data since they both go over 1GB per month on a regular basis, meaning my bill would be $175. This number is higher than both other options, AND I'm no longer getting a device subsidy. Now, Framily plans aren't offered under EPRP yet, so I can assume that if/when they are, this price will go down. But even if it goes down $30/month and becomes comparable to what I'm paying now, it still no longer includes a device subsidy.

 

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Now, enough about my discounted plans; let's say I don't have an employee account and I'm just the average consumer. Even if I was moving from the consumer Everything Data 1500 plan to the Framily plan, it would still be a worse deal. Under that plan, I would pay $110 + $19.99 + $19.99 for voice, text, and data, and $10 + $10 Premium Data, for a total of $169.98. Or if I was moving from the consumer My Way plan, I would be paying $50 + $40 + $30 for voice and text, and $30 + $30 for smartphone data, for a total of $180.

 

So the Framily plan at $175 would be $5/month cheaper than the consumer My Way plan. But again, I lose the device subsidy, which is worth a lot more than $5/month.

 

And I get what you're saying about the "unsustainable" business model, and if I as a consumer cared about that, I would still argue that they already raised prices there once by requiring Premium Data for all smartphones. So between My Way and Framily, this will be the third time in the last 5 years that they are raising prices on unlimited customers. But my concern about using this as an opportunity to opaquely raise prices is still valid, as I can see purely by the bottom line that my bill would increase under the new plan even if I started paying cash for every future device.

 

Maybe if I had 10 lines on my account it would be a different story.

But Framily and pricing belong in another topic.

 

Robert via Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Dang you daddy Robert! hehehe, this discussions certainly do belong in other threads but the basic takeaway I am seeing here is that in certain (or many cases) depending on the number of devices on an account and type of old plan one falls under, these new plans, whether Framily, My Way, All-in, etc (regardless of disappearing discounts) are actually more expensive.

Certain aspects of this discussion do belong here if related to changes that resulted from post-SB New Sprint as the thread implies.  i certainly don't agree with some of the whining, complaints or other things we frown upon here.  It is hard for one to extract context from pure text unfortunately so some will get their panties in a wad.

I for one am happy with Sprint and have been a long time supporter even through the growing pains and headaches we have seen in the last 15 years.  Would I want to leave my old/present plan for one of these new ones? Of course not, but that is because the value is there at my price point for the number and types of devices I have (all smartphones, tablets or hotspots) which my "Everything Whatever" plan of the past provides me. $450/mo is not a small sum but for some and at least for me any changes to a newer post-Softbank plan would result in an additional $100 or more dollars per month.

piggybacking on what you said earlier, everyone should make decisions based on what is the best for their particular circumstances, whether another carrier or plan that is the best fit for them.

P.S.  I still love these sometimes horrifying campfire stories that go on around here.

ecsfb issue?

Was able to make service changes on mine and now it finally recognizes it.  I don't know why in the world I had $10/mo international texting added but I made sure to remove it.   

put on

It would be great for Sprint to buy it. But they are not for sale. SouthernLinc is owned by Southern Companies. Their wireless company is for its personal use. They like it like that.

 

Robert via Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Just what I need, my own personal network so AJ can't complain about the bandwidth I am or am not using... 

You know, I have to agree with this.  The entire Nexus 5 launch with Google play was a fiasco.  Representatives were not trained, nobody knew how to order a SIM card, and to this day Sprint is also unable to recognize the handset attached to my account.

 

Maybe there is a technical hurdle within the system that prevents this but i am more apt to believe that someone at Sprint is dropping the ball and not following through to make these things work as it should.

 

We should be able to activate a t-mobile nexus5 on our accounts,  the Sprint website should recognize our Phones,  and we should be able to change optional services. I'm guessing the only reason why we can't is because whomever is in charge of these things is not doing there job.  

I also have a Google Play Nexus 5 32 GB activated on Sprint, and it looks like Sprint DOES know I have a Nexus 5 since I just got this email:

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I went to my MySprint account, and it still seems to not know what my device is.

 

So it does look like Sprint knows I have a Nexus 5... Somewhere. It seems like their databases are just not very well managed.

BEAT ME TO IT!     

A large fact we are all overlooking in the IMEI/MEID Nexus 5 fiasco is that there is no simple verification of a device not only being not-stolen but the bigger issue of the device not being completely paid off with TMO's current non-contract uncarrier pay-for-your-phone-as-you-go scheme.  

This is most likely why Magenta has requested that Google not effectively release TMO branded N5 IMEI's into the global list for all to see.  Just my 2 cents FWIW.

I am not talking about automatically trying to connect to random open networks ala sprint optimizer.

 

I am referring to dedicated carrier secured/approved/implemented wifi offload areas.

 

In these cases, devices should be silently switch to wifi just exactly how they would handoff to 1x/3g/lte/roaming, or any other carrier sanctioned transport.

 

In other words, if sprint is providing 1x, 3g, LTE, and WIFI, then the network and device should balance transport loads across all available mediums (and not just blindly overload the wifi network either).

This is certainly not that hard to do, and I would approve of.  Intelligent network management is a good thing especially in highly concentrated usage areas such as major sporting event or convention.  

Republic Wireless, T-Mobile and a bunch of cheap MVNO's already try to shunt most of their service when possible to a wifi offload solution.

temptation island

What they really need to do is make both the device and the network aware, so that if the network determines they are in a dedicated wifi-offload area, to silently connect via wifi.

 

When the device leave the wifi offload area, it should silently return to the last mode set by the user, shutting off wifi automatically if it was silently turned on.

 

Much like how the network is supposed to be able to make the device hand off to band 26/41 as necessary.

I don't think many of us like our phones silently doing anything we haven't approved of.  And to whit I refer, those annoying "open wifi network available" even when wifi is turned off and in a few instances, some phones will automatically (at least in the past) connect to any open wifi source.

That is certainly not a good security practice and many can attest to having this occur in public places like campgrounds who have had their computers corrupted thinking they were connecting to a legitimate network.

The handoff between bands though is something that should be seamless.

had a nice 25.58Mbps Down / 7.01Mbps up here in San Diego today.  

marketing department

political asylum

So I have my nexus 5 32gb coming in tomorrow but can't get a sim from any corporate store still. I thought they would have been educated by now. Anyone here work at a sprint store in Jersey?

 

Sent from Evo

Are you still in need of a SIM?  If so PM me and I can get one sent out to you

And you know what Dicks do...

 

AJ

piss all over the wheaties of course

jingle bells

This is the CSFB issue.  The Pennsauken switch does not have CSFB active, yet.  It will keep shunting you back to 3G when on a Pennsauken LTE site until that switch receives CSFB upgrades.  It will probably be resolved within 2-3 weeks.

 

Robert

Hey Robert, does this also seem to be an issue with ALU in SoCal? I believe I mentioned before that as soon as LTE became official here, we are experiencing all sorts of headaches.  I know it will get worse before it gets better, but I may need to triple check for open trouble tickets in the area.

Anyone notice the following added feature in Sprint Zone?

 

 

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This Nexus 5 doesn't believe in Sprint Apps

water park

Any throttling is done at the network end, not on the device. And as far as I know, there have been no reports of throttling actually happening on postpaid LTE; Sprint reserves the right to do so, but thus far has not.

 

Not that 1Mbit/sec H.264 or VP8 would look bad on a 5-inch screen anyway.

 

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either way.... i don't believe anyone here wants to lock themselves into a more restrictive plan in the off chance that they eventually hold you to the letter of the law of the T&C's.  and you know they will, or at least reserve the right to do so. no thank you.

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