WiWavelength

Your logic sucks!...........

Please do not misquote S4GRU staff.  That does a disservice to everyone.

Now, do you have anything of substance to add to this discussion?

AJ

If the installment doesn't include any interest, can you blame people for passing up on paying a phone in full and instead paying a monthly fee?

Reread my post.  If you HAVE TO pay for a phone on installment, not if you choose to do so for other reasons.  If you cannot afford to pay in full upfront for a phone, then you cannot afford that phone.

AJ

Did you pay cash for your house or do you live under a bridge?...........

False equivalence.  Paying cash for a phone and paying cash for a house are not on the same level.

AJ

The theory was that unbundling would push prices down because people would not want to spend $800, and would look at $400 alternatives.

 

I pointed out to you two years ago that bunding never existed in Europe, and prices never decreased.

 

I was right. Leasing/easy-pay hid the true price as well, especially with the carriers falsely claiming that they were offering cheaper plan prices.

If you will, show me where I accounted for leases or installments.  I doubt that I did -- because I want the operators out of the consumer electronics retail business.

This is not popular with many here at S4GRU and elsewhere, but if you have to pay for a phone on installment, you cannot afford it.  You are in over your pay grade and instead should look at less expensive options.

AJ

If one doesn't care about roaming, I suppose.

On T-Mobile, what is this "roaming" of which you speak?  Pink or bust, baby.

AJ

Asterisk. T-Mobile already killed tiered data for new customers and it's entirely possible that Sprint may do the same down the road.

Not for prepaid, only postpaid?

AJ

I think it is a fair assessment to say, that for the last more than 2 years non-contract services have been available, and heavily pushed by all the carriers, that a majority of those who are still on 2 year contracts, specifically chose that option.

Maybe.  But many people are lazy consumers.  They do not make conscious buying choices as much as they stick with what is familiar to them, regardless of pros and cons.

It is not a great leap to say, that a great subset of those users would likewise choose to remain on contract, and if forcibly prevented from that option, would not be very happy.

Maybe.  But not me.  I have been on a contract plan in some form or another all 17 of my years with Sprint.  However, I have used only five subsidized upgrades during that time.  And one of those was botched because of misunderstandings among Sprint, Best Buy, and myself.  Count four true subsidized upgrades in 17 years.  Contract subsidy has not been a good deal for me.  So, I will not be in that "great subset" who would "not be very happy" at the discontinuation of contract renewals.

Like others, I knew from the beginning of the introduction of non-subsidized service, that the only ones to benefit will be the carriers. Non-subsidized service is and has been a bald-face money grab, and anyone who isn't upset about paying more for the same (or less) service, well I supposed they just don't care about saving money.

That is hyperbole with little, if any substantiation.  Discontinuation of contract subsidy simply unbundles device from service -- and vice versa.  If you want to pay less, buy or lease a cheaper device and cut back your service from "unlimited" data to a tiered plan.  You have those choices available.  But if you are going to use more and more "unlimited" data and continue to buy flagship devices, then, yes, you are going to pay more for at least your "unlimited" data, as you well should.  Prices go up.  That is supply and demand.

AJ

I'm going to guess that you did?  If so, please do share

No, Who did.  He is on first right now.

AJ

From the quarter reports, 29% of customers are on 2-year contracts.

 

Thats a lot of people -- of which a subset of that 29 percent may get upset.

I corrected your quote for you.

AJ

yes

The band Yes received the HPUE email?  Awesome.  Owner of a lonely HPUE, much better than the owner of a broken HPUE.

AJ

Who received an HPUE email from Gunther yesterday?

AJ

I'm still annoyed that they blacklisted Sprint prepaid, virgin mobile, boost, and all inexpensive prepaid phones from postpaid.

Most likely, that is at the behest of the prepaid MVNOs, which oft subsidize their prepaid handsets to a degree.  The prepaid MVNOs do not like it when people buy their handsets -- just to ship them overseas, resell them, or use them with other operators.  Some stores explicitly restrict mass purchases of prepaid handsets due to the aforementioned abuse of the system.

AJ

B30...

 

It is only 10x10 MHz, because of issues with Sirius XM Terrestrial filtering and licensing. All deployments I have seen seem to be 4x2 MIMO. 15x15 MHz is possible with their spectrum once they get something figured out with Sirius.

No, it is not -- 15 MHz FDD is not possible.  Are you operating on just your own assumptions here?

Band 30 is 10 MHz FDD in total.  The two other unpaired 5 MHz blocks in the WCS 2300 MHz band are not part of band 30.

AJ

And you offer no proof of sprint losing money through legacy plans either.

Not my responsibility.  I did not make that claim.

Sound reason and argument is not your strong suit, is it?

AJ

I think you are going to find there were a lot more people sticking with sprint for contracts than you thought, and despite how much you hate them, they do and did make sprint money.

You offer no proof that contract subsidy plans are making Sprint enough money -- or any money, for that matter.  Your assertion is not sufficient evidence.

AJ

Buh bye to contract subsidy.  And buh bye to anyone who pouts and leaves over its discontinuation.

AJ

Just wanted to point out Sprint solved the signal drop / hand-off issue with an update pushed 1/4. Hooray!

Nah, just the opposite.  The update pushed out earlier this month has caused my Pixel XL to start intermittently losing connection on handoffs, whereas before it was fine while the rest of you schmoes had problems.

AJ

Band 30 is live in quite a few markets.

Check the date on my post that you quoted.  Somebody felt the need to resuscitate a little used, long dead thread.

AJ

AT&T is using "2G" in place of EDGE, correct?

Nope.  Saying so would be like saying Sprint is refarming Rev A.

AJ

Lets say you have a 500Mbps connection (most have higher). You're already sharing that with 9 B41 carriers (3 carriers / 3 sectors). Up that to 6 carriers/sector and you've got 18 B41 carriers to support. Assuming equal load balancing (1 connection per carrier), that reduces your possible throughput to ~27Mbps per carrier. To be fully effective, each carrier should have full support from the backhaul, which would require a roughly 1.5Gbps connection. And that's not considering the B25/26 and 1x/EVDO connections. 

No, backhaul equal to 100 percent of maximum airlink capacity for multiple carriers across multiple sectors is not needed "to be fully effective."  All carriers and all sectors running at full bore simultaneously never happens.  Never, not even close.  Provisioning backhaul at the 50 percent level for aggregate airlink capacity should be more than adequate.

AJ

http://about.att.com/innovationblog/2g_sunset

 

RIP the AT&T 2G network. Also, RIP to anyone still running an original iPhone on AT&T.

So, when does 3G die!??!

Can we not use ambiguous and arbitrary "2G," "3G," etc.?  We are big boys here at S4GRU.  So, we can write GSM, W-CDMA, etc.

AJ

Superb taste there sir!

AJ

There certainly are a lot of different forms of lossless. Tidal, from what I've read online, is preparing to begin streaming MQA, which I've also read is going to reduce bandwidth.

I am a Tidal subscriber.  Tidal already is streaming MQA from its desktop app, not its mobile app.  And, no, MQA, will not reduce bandwidth.  Rather, it will increase bandwidth.  The standard FLAC container for MQA is 24 bit 44.1 kHz or 48 kHz.

AJ

By the way, here is further evidence in the meanwhile :

 

http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/7/8872115/apple-music-tidal-spotify-audio-quality-test

 

 Tidal's claim to fame is that it delivers true lossless streams at 1.4Mbps

 

"streams at 1.4mbps". Oh, yes I know flac is lossless compressed, but that isn't showing that it streams at less than around 1.4mbps-1.5mbps range.

FYI, I randomly selected five 16 bit 44.1 kHz FLAC files from my library of 50,000.  No cherry picking, just going where the cursor landed.

The compression percentages for the five FLAC files were (in order from least compression to greatest compression) 36, 40, 44, 64, and 67 percent.  Those calculated to average bit rates of 0.90, 0.85, 0.79, 0.51, and 0.47 Mbps, respectively.

AJ

By the way, here is further evidence in the meanwhile :

 

http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/7/8872115/apple-music-tidal-spotify-audio-quality-test

 

 Tidal's claim to fame is that it delivers true lossless streams at 1.4Mbps

 

"streams at 1.4mbps". Oh, yes I know flac is lossless compressed, but that isn't showing that it streams at less than around 1.4mbps-1.5mbps range.

That constant bit rate is accurate for 16 bit 44.1 kHz WAV or AIFF or PCM, not FLAC.  The primary premise of FLAC is to reduce the average bit rate so as to reduce storage and/or transmission requirements.  If FLAC were to average 1.411 Mbps, then it would be an almost pointless format.

AJ