S4GRU

"Cleveland: At least we're not Detroit!!!" Although, "our fish have AIDS" was just too much!

I wish I was announcing Albuquerque and New Orleans!

First Place

by Robert Herron Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Wednesday, March 7, 2012 - 2:01 PM MST Ready for some more announcements? We are now prepared to tell you about two more Round Two markets in Sprint's Network Vision/LTE deployment plans for 2012. Music City and the Big Easy! The Nashville market engulfs all of Eastern Tennessee and the New Orleans market is the whole eastern section of Louisiana. Sprint's Network Vision vendor Ericsson will likely begin Network Vision and LTE deployment in these two Sprint markets in 2012. This is not an imminent start in the next few weeks. These are Second Round starts. Which means that the start of these markets is dependent on when the previous market before it wraps up. There is no way for me to determine at this point which markets will precede them. Even Sprint does not know definitively at this point. Sprint's Nashville market Sprint's Nashville market basically includes every Sprint site in Central and East Tennessee. Including the cities of Nashville, Clarksville, Murfreesboro, Knoxville, the Tri-Cities (Johnson City, Kingsport, Bristol), Chattanooga, Cleveland and Dalton, Georgia. It is bordered by the Atlanta market to the south and Charlotte market to the east, which were announced previously. The West Kentucky and the East Kentucky market borders to the north, and the Alabama market also to the south. These three markets are yet to be announced. The Nashville market will sport a whopping 804 sites in total after Network Vision is complete. Sprint's Nashville Market. All 800+ Network Vision sites are shown for the Nashville market in this map. Click on image to enlarge. Sprint's New Orleans market Sprint's New Orleans market is the whole eastern portion of Louisiana (where the toes go into the boot!) and the part of southern Mississippi along I-55 in Pike County. It includes Greater New Orleans, Baton Rouge, Houma, Morgan City, Hammond, Slidell and McComb, Mississippi. It is bordered by the Louisana market to the west, Mississippi market to the north, and Gulf Coast market market to the east. All of these adjacent markets are yet to be announced. 344 Network Vision sites in all. Sprint's New Orleans Market. All of the approximately 340 Network Vision sites are shown for the NOLA market in this map. Click on image to enlarge. We would love to give you the date, but... There is absolutely no way for S4GRU to be able to provide a start date for these markets, or any of the Second Round 2012 markets that will be announced after these. We are announcing these markets to you for your information, to give Sprint customers a rough idea of when these second round markets can be anticipated. There is absolutely no guarantee of the order in which these markets come live, because there is a lot of variability in the plan. The most significant variable being how quickly the preceding market before it wraps up. If things go quickly in the preceding market, work may start early. Things go late, these would likely start late. And to complicate start dates in each market, Sprint has said they may elect to slow down Network Vision in future quarters if cash flow becomes strained. Sprint has three different OEM vendors, with several different crews in many markets at once. There could be final permitting and design delays, some vendors and/or crews will work at different speeds, weather issues and any number of unforeseen circumstances to complicate matters even further. First round market starts are much easier to predict, but second round and third round markets starts are increasingly difficult to predict and put dates to. This is likely the reason why Sprint has elected not to announce these markets themselves at this time. But we know you don't want to wait for Sprint to tell you! With these caveats understood, we are releasing the Network Vision second round markets in the order that they are anticipating to start deployment, based on the schedules as they exist to date. We won't stop digging for you! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates will continue to scour through the data and gather deployment information for your use. It is our intent to provide at a minimum, all the Sprint markets that will likely begin Network Vision/LTE upgrades in 2012. And we intend to do so in a series of articles over the next few weeks. We will not likely announce communities slated for 2013, because the dates we hold for 2013 markets appear very tentative and subject to change. With the many variables to sort out between now and 2013. Sprint could make significant shifts in deployment plans based on dynamic need change, funding, market permitting difficulties, etc. With the release of Nashville and New Orleans markets today (and Central Jersey last night), that brings the total of Network Vision markets announced to 21. We have created a thread in our forums where we are keeping track of all the markets announced by Sprint and S4GRU.com. Click on this link here to view the Network Vision Market Running List. Stay tuned to Sprint 4G Rollout Updates. On Friday we will be announcing the next two Round Two markets for Sprint Network Vision and LTE deployment. We will be talking about it in a few hours in advance in a S4GRU Live Chat at 9:30 PM Mountain Time on Thursday evening. Come join us! Photos Courtesy of Wikimedia Commons. Information about the source: The information for all of our Network Vision information has been freely provided by several sources close to the Network Vision program who choose to remain anonymous. No source information will be released to protect anonymity. Special thanks to S4GRU Member digiblur for creating the Nashville and New Orleans Market maps! Thank you!

We are talking about two different things. I thought you were saying you wanted me to start listing all speeds in megabytes and not megabits. And I was replying that no one measures wireless speeds in megabytes...which they don't. But I believe what you are saying is that you think it would be better to use the abbreviation for megabits, over megabytes? Correct? You think using MB in place of Mb in the above article confuses our readers. Correct?

I have created this thread as a means for members to post comments and ask questions relating to the "Network Vision/LTE Deployment Running List" thread. I will be moving comments posted there over to here. Thanks!

I was expecting this to be the case.

Baltimore Status: LTE Launched/NV Upgrades Complete NV Sites Accepted = 100% LTE Sites Accepted = 98% LTE Launched = August 30, 2012 Original Scheduled Completion = December 2012 Substantial Completion = January 2015 Complete = October 2017

Power Rangers!

Please find me references where a wireless company is advertising it's speeds in megabytes. No one does. Not one! They all do in megabits. It makes them sound faster. If one of them broke rank and advertised their speeds in megabytes, they would look slower than their competitors. It is not me who determines how wireless companies advertise their speeds. The only thing I could do differently is change my posts to say Mb instead of MB. And the only people who know the difference between the two will not be confused.

hedge row (If there's a bustle in your hedge row, don't be alarmed now. It's just a Spring Clean for the May Queen!)

Switch...yes. Switch to Sprint CDMA? Not necessarily. AT&T is pushing really hard to convert many Nextel subscribers itself. I am hearing reports of lots of mid-sized companies that use Nextel being courted by AT&T, big time. And to most companies, they are most interested in coverage. AT&T beats Sprint coverage, hands down. At least Native coverage. Sprint wants to migrate as many of these customers as possible. But many companies don't want to deal with migration and will just run out the clock on Sprint. At some point, Sprint will have to write off the remaining subscribers and start shutting things down. That's what these early decommission sites will do. They will save Sprint a lot of money in operational costs quickly, plus it will strike the note with remaining Nextel subscribers that the end is nigh! Maybe it will motivate a few customers to get off their tushes and migrate.

We will be discussing PHL market details before you know it!

All speeds quoted in the wireless world is Mb, or megabits. Megabytes (MB) would be far more accurate, but not used. 8 megabits = 1 megabyte transferred. Conversion Calculator: http://www.unitconversion.org/data-storage/megabits-to-megabytes-conversion.html It would probably be best to actually denote Mb when discussing wireless speeds. But virtually everyone uses MB, so I have chosen to follow that faulty philosophy as well.

sea sick :puke:

Thanks for the info. I am enjoying watching the rise of S4GRU. You guys (and a few gals) are all making it possible. Thanks! - Robert Posted via Forum Runner

Definitely not. The band aid improvements are being handled by Ericsson under their nationwide network management contract. NV is being handled by different contracts altogether. In your case, Samsung is handling NV deployment in the Indy market. Posted via Forum Runner

Although I haven't done a complete comparison of headphones, I was super impressed with the quality of Beats headphones. Good stuff! And if I traveled as much as I used to, I'd get a pair. But thankfully, I don't. Posted via Forum Runner

I too was bummed that none of our LA regulars were in the chat for the NOLA announcement. Only digiblur was there.

Sprint pays more for their devices. WiMax devices don't sell in quantities that other units sell, especially GSM. They can't afford to lower the prices, because the OEMs aren't lowering for them as a product ages. When Sprint lowers the prices, its because they are trying to clear inventory at a loss. Hopefully, this dynamic will change with LTE devices some. Posted via Forum Runner