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I am smack Dab is North Richland Hills. Trying to make out this map seems as if im am in the right place. Unfortuanlly haven't seen a LTE signal to save my life.

Not all sites that are active can be connected to at the moment. http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-167-sprint-intentionally-blocking-new-lte-devices-from-accessing-live-lte-sites/

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...Kindle Fire' date=' huh? Nice! Haven't seen you with that one before. How is that? Can you root and run straight Android on it?[/quote']

 

I just bought it on Wednesday when they were on sale (see separate thread). My wife has had one for a month or so now and I've been coveting it. Its much better than my cheap Chinese tablet.

 

I'm going to play with KF ROM for a week or so to check it out. Probably start messing with it next weekend. I'm thinking ICS.

 

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I just saw your that someone ported touchwiz over to the Kindle fire. Only one question comes to mind' date=' "why?"

 

Sent from my Kindle Fire running CM9.[/quote']

 

I would call it retarded, but even folks with limited capacities would not make such a bonehead move. KF ROM is better than TouchWiz.

 

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Poor samsung. I bet it is long days for the guy managing the samsung deployment in Chicago.

 

Have you heard any updates on Chicago? Seems like they are still facing major headwinds...?

Haven't heard any updates since my last article on it. http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-166-sprint-battling-network-vision-deployment-woes-in-the-windy-city/

Robert

If Sprint's NV Schedule holds for May, the maps below show 627 LTE sites that should come live in May 2012. These maps does not include 3G only sites that will go live in the same period. It's possible that sites will go also live in Boston, Chicago and DC too dependent on backhaul and 4G data center connections.

S4GRU Sponsors can view interactive versions of these maps by following this link. Also, Sponsors can follow along as we show progress throughout the month in our NV Complete Sites thread.

Two Thirds

Animal House

Quick notes:

 

20% of all new activations = iPhone

51% of all new iPhones in our service area were sold in Shentel-controlled channels.

 

6.8% of the postpaid base have an iphone

 

40% own iphone 4, 60% iphone 4s

 

total network vision spend in 2012 = 60 million

 

"Work has progressed nicely over the past few months. we still plan to complete 274 of our 510 sites this year. The upgrades of our wireless switch will be completed in the next few weeks. We've plans to install our first Network Vision base station later this month. We have approximately 100 sites scheduled to be completed by the end of July or early August. We still expect to launch initial 4G LTE service in the third quarter although we will be starting to sell LTE phones as soon as they are available."

Great info. Thanks for the update!

Robert

Unless you bought a Touchpad for $99

And I live with that regret every day. That's why I won't let the Kindle Fire escape me when it goes on sale. I've learned that lesson!!!

Robert

You built a hotel o_0

In my previous life I worked in hotel development. Up until October 2009.

Robert

Clearwire branded devices seem to throttle with heavy usage, but Sprint branded devices don't.

It's my understanding that the contract Sprint has with Clearwire prohibits Clearwire from throttling Sprint customers. However, Sprint can have their customers throttled. It's just that Clearwire cannot make that determination themselves of a Sprint customer.

However, Clearwire can do whatever they want with their own customers. And often does.

Robert

I guess mandatory bother me to a certain extent but I was floating the idea because I was under the impression that the upcoming WiMAX devices on Boost were going to operate under some sort of mandatory on "4G if available" restriction.

 

I was also thinking in terms that I would readily support whatever measures allowed Sprint to retain "truly unlimited" data the longest and that this sort of thing would probably be another weapon that Sprint could use to alleviate network strain in metro areas and improve the user experience for everyone overall.

With a solid LTE network, Sprint should have no problems maintaining truly unlimited smartphone data for a long time...even with partners, MVNO's and prepaid divisions. Especially considering the deep spectrum resources that Sprint can exploit in Clearwire.

However, unauthorized tethering will likely start being cracked down on. AT&T now sends messages to users devices when they are doing unauthorized tethering. I expect Sprint to first crack down on heavy unauthorized tetherers, and will likely then move on to crack down on all unauthorized tetherers if they have to. Using LTE as an unlimited home ISP is not going to be allowed by any network. We don't have enough spectrum to do that except in probably rural and remote tertiary markets.

The people who have enjoyed that in the past just need to be happy for the years they were able to do that. It's just a luxury that will not be sustainable in the future.

Robert

I have a feeling that LTE is mostly hype, as when everyone gets an LTE phone the speeds will most likley go to what we get on EVDO today, especially if Sprint is feeding the towers with T1s and not fibre.

What part of LTE do you think is mostly hype? You seriously think LTE speeds are going to plummet to less than 100kbps like EVDO??? The reason why EVDO was not upgraded the past two years was because Network Vision was coming. Sprint tried to not upgrade EVDO only to turn around and upgrade it again in only two years. Most think that was a mistake now. But that issue is not directly transferrable to their LTE deployment and network.

Where did you hear that Sprint is feeding Network Vision/LTE sites with T1's? Not here. We have been reporting through articles and our forums that Sprint is upgrading to fiber/microwave/AAV backhaul in Network Vision. If Sprint connected LTE to T1 lines, it would be limited to 1.5Mbps speeds. Because that's what T1's max out at. However, the live LTE sites being reported about now are pushing 20Mbps+.

Sprint has a clear plan for additional LTE capacity, that is way better than AT&T has, and even better than Verizon has all things considered.

Robert

Time to have the updated lab doc to show the earlier release....which could actually make sense if they are trying to fend off the SGS3 now with that thing being in the US in June evidently...*Sgt. throws dart at wall...sees if it sticks* lol

Unfortunately I get them inconsistently. It would be nice to get them weekly. hint, hint, cough, cough

Robert

house odds

I agree that I wouldn't want the QOS to be negatively impacted and would expect the WIFI networks to be of a certain quality, and would hope that the software sceme that manages this sort of HOME/MUNI/MSO/Wholesale Wi-Fi off-loading would be relatively seamless.

 

But I also see this as a possible post-paid/pre-paid differentiator, something that could be completely user configurable on the post-paid side and an automated measure that keeps costs down on the pre-paid side.

 

I also find it interesting because most existing smartphones, including all of the non-WiMax Android phones on Boost and Virgin could be updated to take advantage of it.

I'm OK with the optimizer concept that Sprint is deploying. Because you can turn it off. However, I was addressing the mandatory part that was commented above. In the case of a pre-paid plan, I guess mandatory bothers me less. However, even Republic Wireless doesn't have mandatory WiFi usage through device control. There is just consequences for using too much data. I think I would prefer that for prepaid plans too. I think it's the Libertarian in me.

Robert

Seeing some trends here.

Robert

I would love to hear Robert's opinion on the expansion of WIFI off-loading, it seems like it could even be mandatory in some markets, especially on the pre-paid side.

 

Time Warner is apparently in the midst of a similar deployment throughout the greater Los Angeles area.

I dislike the thought of mandatory anything. I think the wireless carriers need to contract roaming deals with WiFi offloaders like Towerstream. And in a case like that, I wouldn't mind if my device WiFi roamed automatically onto a network that is equal or better than the Sprint LTE network.

Robert

AT&T is just broadcasting with a mega phone to their customers that they are raising data rates, which is plain stupid! AT&T customers won't care why prices are going up (even if they believe AT&T's lies), they just will care that they are going up. And their customers will see their competition is not going up in price.

AT&T is speaking out of both sides of their mouth, they are quietly on the side trying to tell customers through tech media that prices aren't really going up, because they are raising data allotments, so in fact, prices are going down (per GB). But with the mega phone they are blasting the FCC for causing them to raise prices.

And as irev210 points out above, that is contradictory in every way. If you are spectrum constrained and have to raise prices to curb usage to stay within your spectrum allotment, why would you raise the data caps with price increase? This has nothing to do with Tmo or the FCC or spectrum. This is a move to increase revenue...period. And AT&T is hoping with a little smoke and mirrors, customers will think that the "revenue increase" that AT&T is trying to pry out of their pockets can be blamed on the FCC. But I don't think it's going to work. AT&T is stupid. It's just going to cause customers to look at the competition again.

Robert

I noticed in this article http://s4gru.com/ind...ge-for-chicago/ that it says some sites are going up in North East Iowa. I'm curious if this includes any around the 50702, 50613, or 50651 zipcodes (Waterloo/Cedar Falls Area). The slow speeds here are killing me

 

Also, if you have any information on the schedule for tower DM03IP329 @ 42.518472330470786, -92.44050732424769, I have a clear view of it from work as my workplace is on the corner of Adams and Irving. I was thinking about setting up a time lapse camera to watch the upgrades.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I need to add an update to this article. When I originally wrote the first completed draft of this article, it did not include any info about Northeast Iowa at all. It was only about the Chicago market based on documents we seen.

However, just prior to publishing, I was contacted by a source about Network Vision equipment deliveries that were occurring in several communities in NE Iowa and St. Cloud, Minnesota. At that time, not knowing as much about NV deployment as I do now, I made the assumption that Network Vision was beginning in those markets. We have since learned that NV Equipment deliveries (especially by Samsung) are happening far, far in advance in many locations. NV Equipment deliveries have very little bearing on the actual NV schedule.

Also since the date this article was published we have seen national NV schedules and local NV schedules. We know definitively that even though equipment has landed in NE Iowa for Samsung to use in the future, NV has not begun in that market. Planning, permitting and design are not even complete in that area. There will likely not be any NV deployment in any of the Iowa markets until 2013. Minnesota will start sooner, though.

This point is one of the reasons why we no longer publish anything anymore based upon verbal communication, but only on things we see ourselves. Sorry for the confusion and disappointment this causes.

Robert

Any NV around 43023

 

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Uhhhh...no.

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