Jump to content

Dish moves closer to gaining control of LightSquared assets


Recommended Posts

Posted

I know that most of you could not care less about Dish, but they have been in the news lately so here it goes. The first piece of news is that the fixed broadband trials with Sprint in Corpus Christi and with Ntelos are going very well and could turn into a real business. I think Sprint needs to exploit the wealth of EBS/BRS spectrum they have in the rural and exurban areas that are not served by the wired incumbents.

 

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/dish-execs-sprint-ntelos-fixed-td-lte-trials-could-turn-real-business/2014-11-05

 

The second piece of news is that Ergen is about to get control of Lightsquared, securing about 60% of the new company with J.P. Morgan getting 31.9%. Now, a lot of you have written Lightsquared off but I bet Charlie Ergen will do something about it. He just might sue the FCC and force them to give him compensatory spectrum or force them to force the GPS community to start putting steep filters on their receivers so that the spectrum that Lightsquared owns can be usable. I would not put it past him. He is very wily and persistent. I bet he goes after the unpaired blocks in the AWS-3 auction for the minimum. Between all of his spectrum holdings he will control quite a bit of spectrum.

 

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/dishs-ergen-would-get-control-lightsquared-latest-restructuring-deal/2014-11-04

 

Now granted, he does not have a network yet, but I am thinking Sprint will be happy to host some of his spectrum.

 

 

Posted

I bet he goes after the unpaired blocks in the AWS-3 auction for the minimum. Between all of his spectrum holdings he will control quite a bit of spectrum.

 

Well, that would leave Dish with a lot of unpaired, uncertainly paired, or unusable spectrum:  Lower 700 MHz E block, L-band 1500 MHz, L-band 1600 MHz, AWS-3 1700 MHz, S-band 2000 MHz, and S-band 2200 MHz.  Plus, you can basically forget about the S-band spectrum being AWS-4 and band 23 and the L-band spectrum being band 24 -- as both of those are pretty much off the table now.

 

AJ

Posted

Well, that would leave Dish with a lot of unpaired, uncertainly paired, or unusable spectrum:  Lower 700 MHz E block, L-band 1500 MHz, L-band 1600 MHz, AWS-3 1700 MHz, S-band 2000 MHz, and S-band 2200 MHz.  Plus, you can basically forget about the S-band spectrum being AWS-4 and band 23 and the L-band spectrum being band 24 -- as both of those are pretty much off the table now.

 

AJ

 

So what does all that spectrum do for old boy Charlie? I have to believe there is some plan for it.

Posted

Well, that would leave Dish with a lot of unpaired, uncertainly paired, or unusable spectrum:  Lower 700 MHz E block, L-band 1500 MHz, L-band 1600 MHz, AWS-3 1700 MHz, S-band 2000 MHz, and S-band 2200 MHz.  Plus, you can basically forget about the S-band spectrum being AWS-4 and band 23 and the L-band spectrum being band 24 -- as both of those are pretty much off the table now.

 

AJ

 Well one thing they can do is to turn both the 2000-2020MHz and 2180-2200 into downlinks and use both Lightsquared's 1626.5-1660.5MHz uplink and whatever other uplink they get from the AWS-3 auction to have a 40x40+ spectrum block.

Posted

At what point does the government step in and take back that spectrum? Seems like he's spectrum squatting.

There are deployment deadlines. I think 2016 is one of them.

  • Like 1
Posted

 Well one thing they can do is to turn both the 2000-2020MHz and 2180-2200 into downlinks and use both Lightsquared's 1626.5-1660.5MHz uplink and whatever other uplink they get from the AWS-3 auction to have a 40x40+ spectrum block.

OK technically 2 20x20 blocks.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • large.unreadcontent.png.6ef00db54e758d06

  • gallery_1_23_9202.png

  • Posts

    • It took a couple of months but this site is finally back online.  I was certain that a decommission permit would come through one day since it was offline for over 3 months but I passed by it today and it was working again. — — — — — This site is also finally live. This was probably the longest I had ever seen a site take to go live once all hardware was installed, about 3 months. Hopefully the site in Long Island City doesn't take as long.
    • So while we wait for @RAvirani to fix the website, I was able to connect one of my phones to Verizon n77 on a site with an NCI that appears to be adjacent to an NCI that was already in my database. Specifically, the site I call Taylor Run has been observed with these NCIs on n77: 44EEE469A 44EEE46AA 44EEE46AB 44EEE46BA 44EEE46BB I separately connected to the site I call Fairlington on its beta sector on n77: 44EEE46DA 44EEE46DB I'm assuming alpha sector is 44EE46CA/B.  With this data, I learned two things: 1) They're clearly not tracking the LTE GCIs with the NR NCIs.  Taylor Run is 1B61Fxx, while Fairlington is 1B680xx, not sequential. 2) It's clear that they're not using three byte sectors.  They're not even using two byte sectors like LTE does.  It looks to be done in an oddball fashion like how Dish is doing things.  Best I can come up with is a site ID that's something like: (NCI-0x20)/(0x30) It's possible it's actually (NCI+0x10)/(0x30) but I'm not really sure.  I also haven't connected to anything outside my immediate area here to know if this is consistent with other regions.  Not entirely sure how to persuade a device to do so, my Dish phone just connects to n77 at random in lieu of going to no signal.  (No data passes.) My take is to "break" the site notes for Verizon NR the way it was done with Dish NR, so at least the notes don't get copied to inconsistent sites, as has happened when I connected to Fairlington (came up as "Taylor Run").  It seems that Verizon, AT&T, and Dish all need work on the NR side to make sure site notes work properly.  Frustrating that they didn't standardize that for NR the way they did for LTE.  T-Mobile and US Cellular (while it lasts) seem to have done it the way I would have done it.  The others, not so much. - Trip
    • I tried to access that forum but it says I need a password. Is it limit to certain contributors?    I was going to report that the website is broken. For days it's been saying unable to retrieve signal data then going to a 404 error.
    • Sorry, I forgot about it when I posted previously.  And then I was talking to chamb by e-mail and away from my computer and suggested posting here.  Moved the posts to the proper spot. - Trip
    • It is probably better to post topics related to the map in the dedicated thread to help keep things organized and secure. This thread is big enough as it is, just want to try help keep things on track!
  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...