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I have been a longtime Sprint subscriber and ever since they announced LTE last year I was giddy about staying with Sprint as some of you may know Sprint 3g sucks. I wasn't only giddy because of the speed of the incoming LTE, it was also because I pay a relatively very cheap rate with Sprint (I have a family plan with four lines with a 25% corporate discount $210 after tax!). However in the recent months I have been totally frustrated by the absolutely inexcusably slow progress, now to be fair the have activated LTE for the cell sites in and around my area however indoors it's a complete crapshoot not to mention the speeds aren't all that amazing usually around 8 mbps. I decided I was going to try T-Mobile with the HTC One and was blown away by even the hspa+ (speeds around 10mbps!). It's a little more money with the $20 a month for the phone financing but at least I can launch google maps when I'm in Manhattan without waiting an inordinate amount of time for the maps to load.I still have my Sprint plan as well and an willing to stay with Sprint if they get full NYC LTE coverage in the very near future (my contract is up in October). My question is when do you guys think it will happen? Will T-MOBILE be able to launch LTE this year? Or is it the same pipe dream I had with Sprint this post year?

wait out this summer. i think we all will have good idea how LTE would be like by the end of the summer. until then, we patiently wait.

do you guys think that since there are not that many towers has LTE currently, each tower is being overburdened? I see my phone try to be on the 4g network even though the signal is very weak and from far away. Since all the phones are searching for LTE, does that crowd the current LTE tower that is up and live? well, there are many has to be factored in like how many sprint users switched to LTE phones and other stuff.....

The tower by my home was turned off, but the one by my school is on. I am so mad right now!

 

5 towers are up in flushing. i think they turned off one of them two weeks ago and it has not been turned on yet.

Anyone have an idea what will happen when a LTE site gets overloaded? Besides speeds decreasing? Does sprint have more bandwidth if a cell site is clogged?

 

is that the whole thing with different frequency thing? 800mhz/1900mhz and 2500mhz will be used so that it will prevent putting too much overloading on one frequency? I am not sure but someone explained me as such.

Really.....I just wish impatient people like you would just leave!

 

patients is a virtue but in terms of business aspect, there is no such thing as patient. if they think there is something better out there, they will move to a different company. there is no need for loyalty in terms of business. profit and good service is all that matters and that is what sprint is lacking now. we all know that it is going to get better, but that is long term dividends for us. all depends on how much people weigh short term vs long term dividends.

question, on the deployment running list, NYC is 48% complete, but I honestly do not think 48% of the towers went live with LTE just yet. does it mean their panels and backhaul has been upgraded?

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/

 

I don't blame you. When NV is finished and done, that's when anyone should decide to come back. The upgrades are killing me. Having spotty and poor coverage due to upgrades are normal these days and you would be lucky to be in the parts of the city where there is LTE. Sensorly is accurate up to a certain point. There are spots that had LTE and was mapped but are no longer getting that signal due to adjustments.

using sprint for 7 train ride from queensboro plaza to Flushing is a joke now. half of the time the phone has 4g signal but the signal is coming from very far away with worse than -120dbm. turning off the 4g doesn't really help because 3g signal is very poor due to tower being down because of NV. at least in Flushing, the 4g is very good since there are five towers live with 4g and I have pretty good speed at home. the quarterly report from sprint showed 643 million dollar loss with loss of 560,000 contracts, but with significant improvements on net loss from previously quarterly report. the loss of contracts are due to Nextel sites going down. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323789704578442454292712928.html

Sprint said they plan on announcing 120 cities this summer alone, so I wouldn't be surprised if more sites tart popping up throughout the city. There will probably be a summer launch of LTE in NYC and so many other markets are going to pop up soon. I see LTE is finally going into Lower Manhattan. This is great because the tower near my school is 3G upgraded but it is about a 15 minute walk south to Canal or a 10 minute walk East to SoHo before I get any LTE signal.

 

do you go to stuyvesant? I myself is an alumnus of class 2003. sorry unrelated to network deployment. will use PM next time.

Question , don't misunderstand me im not trying to be disrespectful . Whats wrong with going off topic every once in a while , just talking about LTE all the time is boring , going off topic sometimes can be a good thing .

I understand you have rules & what not but Sprint LTE is deployed but so fast , so we don't always have something to report , so why not talk about something else that is relevant like , Competitors , Phones & Software (without arguement of course).

I would agree you on this one.

feels like my 4 month old note 2 is outdated. smartphones developments is outrageous. the market for smartphone is getting very large and it seems to be very lucrative market. Iphone is being produced at a cost of $150 for apple and they sell it for $600 from one of the article that I read after iphone 5 release. that is crazy profit.

 

 

no... I just see the signal strength change multiple times from -67 to -106 to having 3G to not having 3G and so on. It's my assumption I guess. Since this area has so many towers.

I had exact same issue but after nv upgrades near by, I have stable 75-80

 

 

The warmer it gets, the more will get done faster.

Hopefully thats true. What is the reason for warm weather being a big factor in deployment speed?

Finally Friday people. Lets not fight. Haven't sighted any new lte this week. Hope we see more action next week.

 

 

AJ,

Would this be the reason signal in my residence has gone from full to half or none in my residence? I'm near a tower that has been upgraded at least on the 3g side about a block away.

Dial *99 if you are connected through airave, you will hear computer telling you that you are connected to an airave. Other easy way of telling is also by three beeps when you dial out or accepting calls.

Now I am unsure of what to do with the airave. Should I just use the device to get 55dbm 1x service compared to 70dbm to 80dbm without airave? I actually did get the device for free without any charge monthly.

Wow I am shocked. At my apartment we were always getting horrible 1x and 3g signal and we have a airave. Today I was working on on wires and had to take the airave off. I was surprised to find out I have 4-6 bars and awesome 1.5mbps 3g speed with 70ms ping without airave. NV will make sprint very competitive. Awesome job sprint.

 

 

It looks like you live on the sector border, so your phone switches between sectors of the site. At least, that's what I'm thinking. I saw something similar to that happen this morning while waiting for the bus.

 

My phone was connected to the site about 2 blocks from the bus stop, but was switching between the two sectors.

 

I get best 4g with cell#415 with around 103dbm but I do not know why the phone kept on changing the cell to 466 and 291, which has considerably weaker signal. I know that I am closest to cell 466 but thats not where I get the best reception from.

At home, the lte cell site constantly changes between 466, 297, 291 and 415. It constantly changes with dbm ranges from 103 to 110. Maybe this explains my 1x signal fluctuation for the past twp years before airave?

I think this will help.

 

http://s4gru.com/ind...trength-primer/

Wow. I really should donate to this website but not sure of the appropriate amount. Advice?

By what unit of measurement? RSSI or RSRP?

 

AJ

Rssi?

 

HONESTLY dont know the difference

If you were getting -100dbm indoor with 1900 mhz lte, how much the penetration it will improve with 800mhz lte?

I always wanted to ask this question. How do you guys know these information? Unless you work from the inside, you cannot get these information. Any sprint employees here?

 

 

Agreed, why people come to this board to bash Sprint and revere other carriers is beyond me. That seems pointless.

Not bashing sprint. Just giving big credit to tmobile with their data coverage and deployment. I love sprint and thats why my family has been with sprint and I have good faith that Sprint will get competitive again with 800/1900/2500 lte.

 

 

You have the iPhone ?

Two note 2 and two gs3 for my family.

So then go to T-Mobile , Sprint is working hard on there LTE as well , if you can't wait then go to T-Mobile , I hear they have unlimited service too .

 

too late. already upgraded. thanks for your recommendation.