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In the nineties there was a lot of fiber being built to simply be dark fiber to provide to other providers. During the consolidation years afterwards, a lot of that dark fiber was removed from the market. The fire was still for the president, but the companies that purchased it or not interested in selling dark fiber. The past few years, however has seen an increase in people willing to sell dark fiber again. This is partially due to the lack of companies that are willing to provide dark fiber. Some of the uses include new us networks that are needing to be built due to the consolidation of previous US networks, international networks arriving on new submarine cables that do not have any or a significant us footprint, as well as increasing market depth for existing providers. A lot of companies build out to the major metro areas and largely skipped the areas between. Those areas have seen a lot more attention the past few years. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

There were some crap business models, but I like to attribute a lot of the .com crash on DWDM. There was no longer a need for most of the fiber that was built. xWDM, though, was good for the long term. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

A bit of information on Sprint's wireline business and it's fall. http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2016-January/083869.html http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2016-January/083879.html

I don't buy in the volumes Sprint does, but they're not going to get a ton of discounts if there are build costs rolled in. On the contrary, it is easier to absorb the build of a random circuit here and there vs. tens of thousands of them. Your random GigE of backhaul will likely go for $1500 - $4k/month, depending on build requirements. A second GigE on the same route is going to be significantly less. A 10GigE is going to be $3k - $8k. I've had 10GigEs com in under that. If they were smart, they'd go from GigE to 10GigE and use some microwave backhaul to aggregate sites. Verizon has been moving to raw dark fiber, allowing them to light it themselves, be it 10GigE, 40GigE, Nx10GigE, etc. Obviously those are all that the very high end of what is needed for cell backhaul outside of a venue, but Verizon will have more control over their network and their pricing by going dark. Dark in a 20 year IRU format will range from $800/strand mile to $10k+/strand mile, all depending on routes. Difficulty and competition play the big parts here. I thought I saw it was a $145M deal, but I can't find that now.

This didn't take off nearly how I had hoped...

There's a thread for that... Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Thanks. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Source of the cheap SIMs? Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Those companies live almost completely on government contracts. It would make total sense for them to bid. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

You can use MPLS or CE to provision cell site backhaul.

Yeah, CellMapper is what I'm concerned with. I have no one to share other carriers' SCP logs with and they don't map as nicely as CellMapper. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Is this still the lowest cost way to track all four with CellMapper? Did anyone come up with any USCC ideas? Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

I've been wanting to do something similar for a while, but haven't found the good options yet. I'd have mine in my truck running nearly 24/7. One handset for each provider so that I'm sure to map them all everywhere. I prefer multiple phones over a shared phone. I'll keep reading this thread to see what pops up. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Sooo.... Government. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

All it takes is proper engineering. Most of the long haul phone and TV traffic in the US ran over microwave for 30+ years. It can be done, just don't cut corners. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

I don't foresee the carrier that builds FirstNet (if a carrier builds FIrstNet) using their own gear for it. I believe it will be a 100% dedicated network with the private sector sharing being facilitated through something similar to Clear\Sprint LTE sharing or RRPP sharing. It'll be native and the carrier will be jockeying data around, but there will be separate RAD centers, antennas, RRUs, backhaul, cores, etc.

Verizon's enterprise fiber network hasn't changed significantly since the MCI Worldcom days, so I'm not sure there's that much opportunity to get tower backhaul. Plus there are plenty of cheaper companies to get necessary wavelength services from that have a larger footprint.

There is a lot they could do in this space. They don't seem all that interested in doing what's best for everyone except their competitors, though.

Microwave can have lower pings.

https://www.sprint.net/images/North-America-Global-IP.png Sprint doesn't have the fiber network depth to do much with it's own network. Sure, it can do some, but it is no match for Zayo, Windstream, cable, or any of dozens of other FTTT companies.

Their former MCI Worldcom network is far less important than it used to be (as is Sprint). 2008 ===== http://research.dyn.com/2008/12/winners-and-losers-for-2008/ (Screen shots of 2008 as they were Flash, Java, something not phone friendly.) https://www.dropbox.com/s/onwk7xtj6angc7e/dyn%202008%201.PNG?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/8dr8g1d9g1ligu0/dyn%202008%202.PNG?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/tb5bi5sobxwadfm/dyn%202008%203.PNG?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/8p4tiu8hg8q6fd0/dyn%202008%204.PNG?dl=0 2014 ===== http://research.dyn.com/2015/02/bakers-dozen-2014-edition/ Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

I know that there I like is not the dominant division of the company. That's what point I was trying to make. The article was saying that Sprint is paying jobs of money to AT&T and Verizon. They simply can't be paying that much money to Verizon. Also, I think you're mistaken about the cash cow. The mobile wireless network is the cash cow. Their former UUNet, WorldCom, MCA, Verizon Business, etc properties have been rumored to be up for sale. Their data center and cloud properties are also up for sale. All Verizon will have left in a couple of years will be there us wireless network and BIOS in the former Bell Atlantic region. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Sprint's biggest enemy is their historical selves. These way cheap plans don't do them any favors. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk