Morningside78
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I did ask, though. Also posted my frequent use location a couple of pages back when asked.
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yeah but really only needed the ability to mess around with Sprint's data network in the city. have zero intention of switching permanently from the iPhone but did need something tri-band.
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having owned Galaxy devices previously and wanting a tri-band to play around with it. I've only had it a few days and will be returning it before the end of the 14-day window. but having been using iPhones for the last several years, I realized pretty quickly I made the right choice to leave Samsung behind.
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sorry, "the midtown area between Chinatown and 59st?" that's about half of Manhattan. :-) all of my speed tests were outdoors btw. to this point I've had no band 41 connectivity in a building.
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not yet seen any proof of that, at least not from Midtown up. as I said yesterday, with my job near Columbus Circle and playing with the S5 for the last few days, I've found a fairly narrow strip with band 41 and everywhere else was 25. overall, it seems quite a bit like the initial testing period of LTE on the UWS where the service was fast but coverage minimal. based on my use, there's no access to band 41 on the West Side north of CPS. to this point, I've not seen band 26 anywhere. also, I so wish there was a tri-band iPhone. having not used a Samsung device for several years and going back to this S5 has me longing from my iPhone again. the S5 is a disaster.
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finally had my first experience with band 41 today. was able to connect to it around 55th and 6th and stayed connected until 58th and 8th roughly. here are the data speeds: (1) 17.37 down, 6.82 up, ping 80 (2) 23.24 down, 11.30 up, ping 57 (3) 6.92 down, 6.03 up, ping 62 test (2) was on 55th between 7th and 8th. by the time I got to 8th approaching 58th street, the signal was considerably weaker and test (3) was what I obtained at that point. as I work in midtown, basically everywhere north of 55th and east of broadway is solely band 25. really only found band 41 in that very narrow strip I described. will try farther downtown tomorow.
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thanks for the offer. most of the time I'm between 86th and 105th, from West End Ave. to Columbus. what I can report is a bit interesting is that if I literally sit right up against an east facing window in my apartment pointed toward Central Park from a very high floor, I can get the RSRP down -88 to -90, still on band 25. with that, however, speed tests run in Ookla render basically the same results as when I'm on my couch with a -106.
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Thank you all for the added information. I also went back and read the thread on the signal bars and LTE and saw how to enter the engineering field (and also that the signal bars do actually show LTE signal strength on tri-band devices). In my apartment on the UWS - I no longer live in Morningside Heights - I'm getting 1 bar of LTE. The RSRP ranges from about -105 to -107 and next to band is: 25. So to this point it looks as if bands 41 and 26 are either unavailable in my area. To that end, I'm getting virtually identical LTE performance with the S5 as I did with my iPhone 5s. I will see how things shake it out in other parts of the city this week.
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hey guys, for those of you who were helpful yesterday, thanks so much for your assistance and patience in explaining the situation to me. following what was recommended here, I picked up a tri-band device (Galaxy S5) and will be using it for the next few weeks to see if the LTE is noticeably better. just as an aside, a. is there a way to force the device onto band 41 and b. is there a way to check which band I am currently connected to?
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thank you again for all of your help. I'll give the S5 a whirl for a couple of weeks and see how it goes.
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wow that's amazing. and while I understand why they wouldn't advertise it, just how inadequate the bandwidth was is a pretty staggering thing. if I were able to demo a tri-band device, is there one (or more) in particular you'd recommend?
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I think these all seem to be excellent points though I'd hasten to add that "just be(ing) patient" has been the tagline for the past 3+ years. that they are evidently far better funded and supposedly better managed are major boosts for the company. I may do as another user suggested and jump ship until Sprint actually makes any of these claims a reality.
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is there a way to force my 5S onto this band? it seems I'm only ever on 25. hehe sorry...don't really know what any of that means.
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is this accessible to those of us who don't own tri-band phones?
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all of the above. and that I've been stupid enough to continue paying Sprint is a major source of my frustration. a couple of things that have made things more difficult for me in the past few years was that I basically had no choice but to bring some family members on board with me, and that's virtually embedded me in the Sprint camp. trust me, I was completely gone in early 2012 and then some life situations intervened. beyond that,in terms of what Sprint offers, there's zero they are doing other than the threat of damaging my credit rating and possible litigation that keeps me as a paying customer - but please just accept that those situations I alluded to were/are way beyond my control.
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again, the exact same things were said 3 years ago, just using the names of different devices. at no point was there any indication given to me that Sprint's LTE would be wholly unable to deal with the customer demand in New York City. that the issue has morphed into being one that results solely from Sprint's mismanagement of either its infrastructure, its public relations or both is why I think anyone should meet any of these claims with skepticism. nobody disputes the rapid progression of technology. what rings a bit hollow is how it seems that whatever Sprint does consistently leaves the bulk of its customers a generation (or more) behind the means to benefit from it.
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ok, thank you for your help. I also appreciate your courtesy and civility.
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look, I really don't want to continue being argumentative here but I must say the following. since LTE started being discussed in earnest or even addressed by Sprint in my conversations with them back in July 2011, I've heard the following: we've improved everything wait another year buy a different phone it's now nearly August 2014 and I'm hearing almost exactly the same thing. I hope you can appreciate my frustration.
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fair enough. I read an article that quoted the Sprint CEO a number of months back saying that one of the big challenges for Sprint is that although they have more bandwidth than their competitors, Sprint's bandwidth lacks the contiguousness of its competitors and this has made delivering a faster product slower and more challenging. I would be fine with all of that except for Sprint's utter ineptitude over the previous 12 years I've been a customer. hopefully they're able to manage all of the bandwidth they now have and can also deal with what will likely be some pesky FCC investigations.
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thanks for the reply. basically still would have to see some proof to support any of it as just saying there will be a lot of bandwidth is something I've already heard umpteen times from Sprint. the "just wait until next year" line is also one I've heard from Sprint since about 2011. just feels like a lot of the same spin with different dates and numbers. I do hope I am wrong about all of this.
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do you have any proof of this? I'm not quite sure why you're being hostile, but try to understand that not everyone can justify throwing away $250/month every month for several years on service that's failed to deliver on any of its promises. to just say "Sprint has so much bandwidth" without anything to back it up just sounds like marketing to me. I heard virtually the exact same pitch over 2 years ago and yet here we are with LTE slower than competitor 3G.
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oh and I definitely get what the upgrade is intended to do, but what proof is there that band 41 won't be completely super-saturated once enough Sprint customers start owning devices capable of connecting to it? will they be running many bands simultaneously to deal with the demand? I have to say, I recall nothing 2+ years ago that said band 25 was going to crash and burn as miserably as it has. And indeed, as I said in my previous message, when I was one of about 5 people using LTE in my neighborhood (provided I didn't wander off Broadway for about a 10-block strip) it was pretty quick, and that was when LTE in the area was purely in the testing stage. Then many more people got LTE-capable devices and you get what I'm getting right now sitting by a window on the UWS facing a tower about 2 blocks away: ~2.5 Mbps down and ~ 0.5 Mbps up.
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appreciate the information. my primary problem with what you've said here is that it's unfortunately similar to what I've heard from Sprint for the last several years and others here: you just don't have the right equipment. what has me skeptical is that it's just coincidentally never the right equipment. and according to Sprint and the people I've seen on this forum who sing the praises of the supposed improvements in Sprint's quality of service (and to be completely honest, I've never spoken with a Sprint customer anywhere but the internet who's had anything positive to say about Sprint), I'm just always in need of something else to buy. my concern is that Sprint's infrasturcture lacks the capacity needed to handle all of the customers in a city as densely populated (by structures and people) as New York City and so that periods where the service seems good are really the result of a very small customer base who possess the devices capable of using the service. once more and more people get those devices, Sprint runs into the same old capacity issues as they had previously. WiMax seemed blazing fast until many more people had WiMax devices, then WiMax was too slow to use. LTE, when first available here, seemed very very quick, until everybody had LTE devices. Now it's slower than Sprint's competitors 3G service. again, this is just a theory, but Sprint's track record has been staggeringly poor in my 12 years as a customer. virtually every speed improvement is fine until the lion's share of their customers are also using it. then you're back in the toilet bowl. I'm happy with my iPhone (as is my wife) and will be buying the iPhone 6 later this year. But in order to be a Sprint customer must one only use a handful of devices or suffer with dial-up modem speeds and dropped calls? is there truly something different this time around other than a customer lag time? like I said, I'm willing to listen but I am very skeptical.
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gotta say, guys, I'm seeing zero indication of Sprint being able of delivering any of what's been promised. my wife and I (iPhone 5 and 5s repectively) and our closest friends (husband and wife who both own Galasy S4s) are encountering nothing but horrible service, both in terms of phone and data. we frequently have to shut off LTE entirely to force ourselves onto the mediocre 3G that's still faster than LTE. I've been itching to bail on Sprint for the past 3 years and after having to add my parents to my account, decided to hang on a bit longer and give Sprint the benefit of the doubt. now I've paid them 3 more years worth of exhorbitant fees for terrible phone and data service and I don't know why I'm supposed to believe that Sprint even possess the technical know-how to adequately implement and manage the kind of infrastructure needed to serve New York City. is there anything tangible (and not Sprint marketing) that someone can point to say I'm wrong about this and should just keep waiting?
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thank you gentlemen for this information. it definitely works as described and next to the entry for Freq. Band Indicator is "25."
