leozno1

I still have power, lucky me! To be honest, I expected a lot worse... At the moment, my phone is switching between my home tower and another one, and occasionally roaming. The other tower was down for like 5 hours last night though. I even got -119 LTE for a second, but it immediately switched away. Rain is picking up a bit, not much wind right now.

Unfortunately that means back to work today Albeit an hour later but I still would have liked to sleep in a bit more.

Update concerning the suburbs of Harrisburg to follow....

 

First, Shentel site just off of RT39, directly across from Lake Wildwood on Industrial Rd:

 

Just upgraded, antennas installed:

 

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Second, tower just across from State Police HQ on Elmterton Ave:

 

Just upgraded, still has lines attached to raise the antennas and the boxes from the antennas were laying on the outskirts of the site:

 

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Third, Shentel site located on Crooked Hill Road, directly next to I81 near the post office. This has been upgraded for a few weeks:

 

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Lastly, Shentel site on Commerce Drive, just behind the I81/Progress Ave exit. PPL was moving high tension lines on this pole. I find it hard to believe with all the otehr activity in neighboring sites, this isn't due to Shentel upgrades. No other high tension poles were being touched:

 

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Overall I have a few thoughts... #1 I'm surpirsed at their site density. These sites are all located relatively near to each other. #2, they will be launching this area with from what I can see, most sites upgraded, definitely a higher percentage than Sprint's initial markets and lastly, Shentel is making very good time considering they only appeared to start towards the end of August with a true roll out.

Great updates, and just looking at your pictures reminds me of how much the gloomy gray sky sucked today. On a bright note things looking good in Harrisburg so far. Hopefully they progress this well in York soon. I've been keeping an eye open but haven't seen anything yet aside from the Water tower across the street from Chipotle.

Norfolk is on Sprint's list to have a launchable amount of service before years end. It appears that Sprint is shifting deployment strategies. Instead of rushing through 2nd Round markets, it seems they are deploying 2nd round markets at a slower rate and starting later markets simultaneously.

 

Robert via Moto Photon Q using Forum Runner

That saying seems familiar, I think I had asked you about that on an article a couple months ago.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/18/3520500/sprint-majority-stake-clearwire

And so it begins. Bring on the 100mbps LTE

Impossible to be in culebra, aguadilla, isabela, quebradillas, hormigueros, cabo rojo, san german at same time.

At the same time yea, but all in one day is definitely possible.

But If you can't disclose your source that's all you had to say.

New sites on Air!!!

 

PR03XC032, Hormigueros, PR,Samsung,

 

PR03XC033, San German, PR,Samsung

 

PR03XC035, Cabo Rojo, PR,Samsung

 

PR03XC175, Culebra, PR,Samsung

Where do you get your info from? Do you go personally and check all these sites? Cuz it would take a lot of dedication to take that long ferry ride to Culebra to check the towers lol

Its funny you should mention that , because I was thinking the same thing. We know for a fact that there's at least one live lte tower in the Bronx yet I don't see that listed at all. It seems as though Sprint's own website is pretty useless for detailed information regarding lte updates. Its very vague, mentioning only "speed upgrades". What does that mean? Asfar as I'm concerned that simply refers to standard increases in 3g speeds as part of NV upgrades. I know they're in a tight spot and are playing catch up in lte upgrades and coverage compared to AT&T and Verizon , but I wish they were more in depth with their info.

Its been noted on other parts of these forums that the upgrades you see listed on network.sprint.com are not Network Vision related. Unless they have changed that recently, that site is only outlining bandaid fixes.

I went around the block from my house and I saw Crew workers from alcatel lucent working on it

Go talk to them!! I'm sure we would all like to hear how much they have progressed around the city.

 

I believe people really underrate Clearwire's spectrum, because of their poor tower placement. Clearwire fudged up their rollout. It is really not as bad as people make it out to be.

 

 

according to this graph I found on building propagation of the Major US spectrum frequencies. PCS is only 1.3x better than clearwire's spectrum.

 

Also I prefer more spectrum on a higher band, so the lower band can be used strictly for coverage.

30% is still a lot of difference in signal strength. The reason I say it is because I had an Evo 4G and an Evo 3D and while it was definitely fast enough to do whatever you want to with your smartphone, it was just unusable when I would be indoors, whether it be slow speeds or constantly disconnecting and reconnecting. It was more frustrating than anything. If you say it could be better than what it currently is then I'm all for it but from previous experience I'm a bit skeptical.

I wouldn't mind them doing this. Imagine LTE 800 on a 20x20mhz band.

Lol that would be pretty awesome but realistically, acquiring Metro or Leap would allow them to do a 10x10 or 15x15 1900 deployment in some of their major market. Lord knows Chicago needs the extra spectrum. And you can never have enough spectrum in NYC or CA

Clearwire got bloated after the news that SoftBank was interested in Sprint. I believe they jumped up 70% the day the story broke. I believe the price of the stock was just 1.30 a few days ago. Sprint will probably wait til the price goes back down before swallowing them up. Son mentioned horrible Speed in his presentation. I believe Clearwire will be their key to giving users ultra fast speeds. If the go with the original plan of having Clearwire on every tower, Sprint would be able to deliver 60-90Mbps with unlimited data. They would truly shake up the wireless industry with those speeds.

 

I believe the main reason sprint made this deal was to get some funding to be ready for some consolidation. I believe Sprint thought that the consolidation would start in 2013 when they would be more prepared(iDEN would be shut down), but DT bought Metro now. Sprint has to get some capital to grab a player or two. They will not want ATT or Tmobile to grab the other regional guys.

The only negative to Clearwire is their frequency that their network runs on. It's almost unusable indoors and it would also require Sprint to add yet another band of support into their devices and adds complexity. It would probably be best for Sprint to acquire one of the regional carriers like Leap or Metro PCS that have PCS spectrum and strengthen Sprint's spectrum holdings.

Sweet! That means that I will have better coverage, faster speeds and maybe even LTE the next time I go to the campo that is Cidra with my girlfriend.

I'll make sure to donate when that day comes

I'm sure if every one heard what Sprint's HD Voice sounds like they wouldn't care about VoLTE. I have heard nothing but awesome things about it so if 1x Advanced provides greater coverage and has more capacity than VoLTE while offering comparable call quality then I'll take it.

Yeah Puerto Rico is very small, it would not surprise me if it was one of the first markets to be done 100%. I'm just hoping to see the the first LTE sites start popping up in December at least!

Probably working so hard to get PR done so that some contractors can get back home to their families. Would they fly out contractors to the island or would they actually use contractors from PR?

There were two people working on the tower near my house on Friday. One installing the panels, the other down working on the cabinets. Very hard working people too, were on site by 9 am, left at around 7 pm. I could see it all from my patio.

9-7. The reason they are working so hard is because they know that got a nice fat paycheck coming in from all that overtime.

 

 

Btw.... Id love to see how can I get 2 days from it!!!!!

 

posted using my super FK'N htcEVO4gLTE

Lol turn off GPS and stop using slacker radio :-D

Sprint is moving very slow. This is very frustrating. In certain areas in the Bronx you have LTE in other area you don't. What's the hold up.? Smh

The holdup is that they are working on over 100 other cities at the same time so it's gonna take some time, especially with the number of sites there are in New York.

I disagree 100% with that. Once users start getting LTE devices in their hands and realizing the speed and how easy it is to do things, I think the mobile device usage will go up even further. The only thing that will go down is the speed test data.

 

Joe Schmoo realizes that with 8mbs down he can easily stream youtube/netflix while on the can at work. Why read fark, when I can laugh at a video. Rather than play a game on the mobile device, I'll stream hulu plus or watch espn, because I can.

 

This new, faster network is only going to encourage your average user to consume more data, hence the need for wifi offloading when its available.

I think that the instances that those situations you outlined would be few and far in between just because when I'm at work I can't sit here and watch Hulu plus or ESPN on my phone (I mean I can, but I wouldn't be very productive)

Another nail in the coffin. Down with VoLTE. Death to VoLTE. Voice and data should be kept separate but equal.

 

 

AJ

At least I'm not the only skeptic out there about VoLTE. People just hear that term and just think things will be all rainbows and unicorns but don't know what the downside of it would be, which appears to be reduced coverage.

The problem is that quality and capacity are a balancing act. Not all subs can use 13K QCELP, lest network capacity be cut by roughly 50 percent. But that quality/capacity balance may be less of a problem for T-Mobile, which requires a disproportionate amount of spectrum to service its much smaller sub base.

 

AJ

Yea it's easy to just throw spectrum away and use so much capacity on voice and HSPA+ 42 when you have substantially less customers than larger competitors.

 

 

Exactly. This is a commonly misunderstood point. VoLTE tower spacing is significantly tighter on the same frequency as 1x. VoLTE is only good to approximately -93dBm RSSI, whereas 1x voice can be used to roughly -103dBm. 10dBm is huge and represents a lot of coverage difference.

 

Sprint would have to run VoLTE on LTE 800 just to get in the ballpark of CDMA 1900 coverage. And then it would be nowhere near as good as 1x is on 800.

 

Robert via ICS Kindle Fire using Tapatalk

Do you know if the standard for LTE Advanced would improve on the technology's ability to maintain a connection when you have a weak signal or is -93dBm As good as it's gonna get for LTE?

 

 

With 28nm chips, it seems like CDMA and LTE battery life have been the same. I stay in CDMA/LTE mode on my GS3, and do not notice a difference in battery life whether I have a 3G or 4G connection. However, if I have a weak 3G connection, my battery will drain pretty fast.

 

Robert via CM9 Kindle Fire using Forum Runner

Yea but remember when we are talking about voice we are talking about CDMA not EVDO. I don't know if you have ever tried it but if you use your phone and turn off mobile data so your phone could do strictly voice and text only, battery life increases drastically as opposed to if you have 3G turned on. Qualcomm's 28nm chips are awesome and they have managed to bring LTE battery life close to EVDO ranges but Idk if they can rival the energy efficiency of 1x just yet.

An advantage is that 4G voice & data could be simultaneously on one antenna, which allows for smaller, probably more power efficient phones.

That makes sense. Although a couple posts back I stated that one of the things I'm skeptical about with VoLTE would be the potential for reduced talk times due to LTE being much more power hungry than a 1x CDMA radio. Would that still be the case?

First let me say that I wasn't trying to be proportional...so mission accomplished. My point, irregardless of semantics, was to point out that the "all you can eat buffet" example probably isnt the best analogy to use when talking about unlimited data.

 

BTW...technically there isn't a limit as to how much data can be passed through cables or through spectrum for that matter. Thats just not the case. However, I am fully aware that there may be limits as to how much data can be passed at one time before the quality of the network starts to degrade. Had to put that out there although it should go without saying.

Not being proportial would result in an unfair comparison so that may be of some importance.

You're looking at it from the wrong point of view. The amount of data that can be lined up to pass through cables in unlimited; like AJ said "it can be created at will" but if you look at it from the perspective of the cable it can only pass so much information at once. Its akin to trying to how you receive water at your home. There may be a vast amount of water available to you but the bottleneck to how much water you can use will always be your plumbing. The Pipes are the bottleneck just like backhaul is one of the bottlenecks of data. We can't refer to data as being unlimited in regards to Sprint's network because there is absolutely no means in the universe that I am aware of that can transmit ∞ mbps.

The term unlimited data means that you can use as much data as you want (within Sprints guidelines of course) and you will "NOT BE LIMITED" to the amount of speed or data that you can use at any point in your billing cycle. It does not mean that you have the power or speed to send at receive infinite amounts of data through your cell phone.