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Ok.. Cleveland has a lot of aqua ( 3g/800 ) .. Can aqua go green ( 3g/800/4g) ?

Does Columbus have much Ground Mount ? So you know there will be a lot of 800 in C-Bus? Does all red get LTE?

Here's hoping we get more green and yellow sites then just blue.. but blue could go green or yellow, huh? Is every single LTE site going 800 voice and data or just select ?

I know it's not an apples to apples comparison, but Cinncy has more LTE sites inside their belt.. but before someone says it - I know I could wake up in one week and that could change quickly..

Yeah my sediments exactly.. Its good to see progress in Ohio, Id like to see 800/4g somewhere closer to the 270 Belt.. inside - outside, but closer.. It seems like everyone is getting it better then Columbus, but one morning that'll change.

Looks like we're both in the same area.. Ive been hoping for the same - that we aren't last..

Yeah.. we kinda hit on this yesterday

After reading what some customer have said on Sprint forums it's very possible Columbus will go thru some 'birth pain's so-to-speak. I mean lets say by Dec - LTE is indeed pretty heavy in Columbus - but not yet near a launch. We can expect NV equipment - along with LTE - to be - yes- up and running, but it's also a lot of tuning and testing. Just because the equipment is running doesn't mean it's yet tuned up to race ready performance. And In other cities that were already launched - even those cities are improving weekly /daily ..as we speak..

------------------------ rf40928 says: My fault for being vague. ATT covers most places lacking LTE, with HPSA+ which is about as fast as Sprint LTE. I'm sticking with Sprint because I feel in another year they'll be dealing an entirely new deck of cards + Unlimited data ! Just for those reading who may want to argue that HPSA+ isn't REAL 4G ....the marketing of LTE, HPSA+, Wi-Max as 4G is nothing more then marketing ( as many of you may already know ).. In Fact, The ITU ( who set the standard for 2G, 3G, and set the standard for 4G - about three years ago ) says True 4th Generation Cellular technology must be able to hit 100 Mb/s download .. by this definition which the ITU is the authority at defining - only two technologies, “LTE-Advanced” and “WirelessMAN-Advanced" would be REAL 4G Cell tech.. The ITU later "softened" it's position saying LTE, Wi-max, HPSA+ could be considered forerunners to 4G technology.. Going on this they are more like 3.5G Many links exist, but here's one covering existing technologies being marketed as 4G http://money.cnn.com..._myth/index.htm ITU sets standard for 4G: http://www.itu.int/n...es/2010/40.aspx

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Sprint NV does cover both Athens and Zanesville.. I think Athens has 'around' 7 sites in that area.. and so far maybe 3 have gotten NV.. Sprint covers where my folks are - sort of. They are slightly outside city limits and I'll likely roam on Verizon .. I don't know much at all about if Verizon gives less 'priority' to a roamer.. but I can say my phone sure seems slow. Maybe someone can answer that. Otherwise I'm just damn glad Sprint is doing a lot where I live !

Wow.. sounds like those guys are s.o.l. ... You'd think Sprint would just buy a company as small as that, but maybe that market isn't profitable.. I wonder if some expansion for Sprint could take place in areas like that.. My parents live in SE Ohio where Sprint has a smaller presence. I don't go there often, but it would be nice if Sprint had LTE there

Ok, 400 ... now does that include Granville, Grove City and areas Sprint may consider Columbus market? I guessed 200+ from the map looking at sites 'slightly' outside of the 270 belt and everything inside 270.. but its great to have you here giving us the scoop ! I just noticed West Virginia.. what's the deal ? No NV even in Charleston, Huntington... why ??

Hey Coz.. any extra bottles of Tequila? There are over 200 sites in Columbus to be upgraded.. is 120 LTE feasible by the end of Oct guys? Sounds wonderful if this is true..

I understand. I work in healthcare with a broad variety of people. I serve an even broader variety of patients to whom some are very gracious and thankful while others are hateful.. Thanks

Thank you for the work you do and also even if we weren't fully getting each other being patient.

Yes I can pick up neighbors 200+ feet away on 2.4... I can walk 60 feet away and barely pick up my 5Ghz.. while the 2.4 is fine.. The one thing I like about this Asus.. is I can increase or decrease my broadcast signal strength in the firmware. Can have the 2.4 chip set at 120 mW.... while at the same time bump the 5Ghz broadcast up to 200 mW for a boost..

Lets say the devices stayed at 20 Mhz.. when switched to 40 Mhz - WHILE STILL at 2.4 Ghz.. Ok - yes I see there wouldn't be increase in performance.. My point was I kept 5Ghz at 20 Mhz.. and saw a doubling of speed .. 50 Mb/s down everytime.. Without widening the channel to 40

I may not understand this to the depth you do, but... I will say The iPhone 5 is 20 & 40 Mhz capable..Wouldn't it go to 40 Mhz (?) when I switched 2.4 Ghz from a 20 Wide to a 40 Wide....? When I did I saw little difference - Iit is THEN at that point I logged the iP5 off the 2.4 Ghz sid.... and on to the 5Ghz sid broadcast of my router ( which was set at 20 Mhz - not 40 Mhz ) that I saw the HUGE increased in performance.. This was my whole point - saying the overcrowded 2.4 spectrum would not give optimal results when you're shooting for just that from a hotspot or home router broadcasting with just milliwatts of power. This was in response to someone saying their NOTE 2 wouldn't do over so and so speed over 2.4 Ghz while I couldn't get my iPhone 5 to do barely half the download ( of my Time Warner 50 down 5 up connection ) until I simply went to a less crowded frequency

Ok - I got this. But when I switched to 5Ghz - I kept the bandwidth set to 20 Mhz.. I didn't increase it. Yes, I did an experiment where the PC got better speed ( on 2.4 Ghz ) when I went to 40 Mhz.. but still nowhere near peak speed. What you said it was Ive been trying to say.

So how come when I kept the bandwidth at 20 Mhz I doubled my speed by simply going to the less populated higher frequency? I'm getting a lot of traffic over 2.4 Ghz from neighbors -- when I run "netsh wlan show networks mode=bssid" in windows command prompt.. to check.. I figured less overlapping with neighbors channels..

I compared hotspot to home wfi because both are broadcasting with just a few milliwatts of power. I get the 20 Mhz versus 40Mhz which I understood.. but when Ive done 2.4 Ghz 20Mhz versus 40 Mhz it made very little difference for my peak speed on the iphone/ ipad. Right now I have my main 5Ghz sid broadcasting on the 20 Mhz channel bandwidth. This is how I came to the conclusion I did. I can be 20wide or 40wide on 2.4 Mhz.. and the iPhone would rarely hit 25 Mb/s .. yet I switch to only 20Mhz 5Ghz spectrum and I'm downloading at 50 Mb/s .. Still 20 Mhz.. only went to 5ghz.. yet while I'm remaining on 20Mhz I doubled my speed.. I only changed from 2.4 to 5 Ghz

Ok sorry to you, but I wasnt confused. I should have clarified more. I also didn't mean to offend anyone. I wasn't talking mainly about a hotspot, but I compared it to a home Wi-Fi because both broadcast with a small amount of power - jusy a few mW's ( milliwatts ) .. You more or less said you'd never heard of a tri band .. so a some point we must have been on the same page because we know there are tri band hotspots now. I was replying to those saying they couldn't hit a certain speed on their notes with wifi 2.4ghz.. and giving my experiences with channel interference on wi fi at home.. basically stating how much interference you get when broadcasting over 2.4 on any wifi that broadcast with such little power... even if you're literally 12 inches away you can be picking up signals that maybe very weak and cutting back speeds. That's when I brought in my home network and my experiments with 5Ghz. The huge difference I saw in speed by simply going to a less populated 5Ghz spectrum ( that also can't go as far - means less outside interference ) showed how optimal speeds on 2.4Ghz was a pipe dream on my own cell phone and ipad. You can't sweep away the interference problem on a overpopulated spectrum with 2.4. Any unlicensed device, any microwave oven, cordless phones, bluetooth devices, wireless video cameras, outdoor cellular microwave links, wireless game controllers, zigbee devices, fluorescent lights, WiMAX devices, and even bad electrical connections can cause broad RF spectrum emissions.

I'll add to this now and say because I can broadcast 2.4 and 5 Ghz at the same time ( with 3 customizeable sid's EACH ) I can do alot of experiements. I had my pc on 2.4 ghz 20mhz.. would never hit even 30 Mb/s download.. some channels Id get close.. but mostly once I changed to 40 Mhz I could. Ive looked at neighbors broadcast and channels over windows. And changed my routers 2.4 Ghz channel to one away from the other channels.. this would mostly increase speed obviously. While my Pc was on one of my 2.4 Ghz sids.. My wife iPad 4 is on the 5ghz.. downloading at 50 Mb/s... which neither the phone or ipad will hit 50 on 2.4 Ghz at all.. but they did show improvement with speed for channels.. I gave my son his own 2.4 ghz sid for the xbox.. my wife and I share our own 2.4 ghz sid.. and one is unused... For the three (5Ghz) sid's.. only one is used for the ipad and iphone.. I can set the router to throttle each sid as well as set priorities.. throttling does work by the way ( some think it doesn't because you can;t control how fast the data comes from the provider )... but you can still to a certain extent. Because you control the upload speed and can assign bandwidth of upload to each sid.. Also when you set priority and the cable company is waiting on the upload ( so it can then download ) the router will send it according to the prioirty you set.. I can tell this works when i do speed test..

rf40928 says: I'm at work and while I can't go into a long reply right now I have a 'true' dual band at home ( two chips inside the router which broadcast both 2.4 and 5Ghz simulataneously with 3 sids for 5ghz and another 3 sids for 2.4 ghz.. ) ASUS RT N66R router.. best one out there IMHO.. THE Asus RT 66U is the same router.. ( R stands for retail version.. The U is ordered direct from Asus ) Tri-band routers are a newer thing .. these routers have a third radio that operates on the currently unlicensed 60GHz frequency band. Using a new technique to beam the radio signal directly to the antennas of connected devices (a process called beamforming) allows some of these routers to achieve data throughput rates of 7Gbps – considerably faster than the measly 300Mbps that 802.11n routers are capable of. Some tri band info http://ces.cnet.com/8301-34439_1-57562769/qualcomm-and-wilocity-mix-wi-fi-and-wigig-demo-first-tri-band-consumer-products/