swintec

On 3/14/2018 at 12:54 PM, though said:

think you meant "falled" or "carried"

hhhhmm dunno.  wifi connection was terminated so the equipment had to fail over to a different network to handle the traffic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failover

Was playing around with VCC on my essential last night.  Started the call on Wifi, shut wifi off and the call failed over flawlessly to VoLTE but the interesting thing is when i turned wifi back on, the call transferred BACK to wifi fairly instantly.  That part is new right?  Never used to transfer back when in wifi range.

i am beyond annoyed how essential is handling the reception problems with this phone.  it is like one big screw you.

1 hour ago, S4GRU said:

Hopefully this info will help them find a solution.

I have not been effected by this and I may be way out in left field but...why not just dump cloudflare completely, or is it built tightly into their hosted forum solutions for everybody with no option to do so?  I cant imagine we will see to much of a perf. hit, its mostly just text we are pushing around.

5 minutes ago, though said:

that is correct for my market (lincoln), yes.

dug mine out and plugged it in just now, will see what happens.

would be interested if someone, maybe Tim, could shed light on what may have changed to allow this.

6 hours ago, though said:

well holy #@)*

Magic Box working in Lincoln, NE!

is nebraska a market they never worked in before because of spectrum issues?  maine is in the same boat.  maybe i will plug mine in again and see if i have been blessed with the same luck.

25 minutes ago, Dkoellerwx said:

HD voice with WiFi Calling has been a thing for a while now.

for how long?  it doesnt appear it is supposed to work at least according to this sprint higher up:

i installed the Essential phone 8.1 beta and signal check BSL location stuff is working again.

i called another sprint user tonight, with Wifi calling enabled on my account AND connected to wifi for the call and it was done in HD voice, incon showing and everything.  both of which are not supposed to happen base don historical discussions.  big changes afoot or just another bug with the essential?

oreo 8.1 is supposed to be released this week which finally includes some radio fixes and or tweaks.  We will see although i am not holding my breath.

6 minutes ago, jamesinclair said:

 

After reading through that, I still dont have an answer.

He has wifi. He doesnt want calls to drop. Airave has solved that issue. Is there any benefit to switching?

The biggest downside to Airave is the lack of HD voice. Does Magic Box fix that?

Magic box does not do voice unless his phone is one of the few that does VoLTE.

1 hour ago, mikejeep said:

 

@swintec and @JossMan can you confirm that the BSL stopped working once you moved to Android 8.0?

 

Ive been on the Oreo 8 beta since essential came out with it..i cant remember when that was though, december?.  However, when I was on 7 for a little bit in the beginning, I want to say BSL was not working then either.  That is why i thought there was a setting ive been missing all along once i swapped to this device.  Dont attack this problem based off that though as I could be mistaken so hopefully someone in the essential post is still running version 7.

I believe 8.1 is coming out very soon though, if we can believe the essential team.

7 hours ago, mikejeep said:

 

Until now I do not think I had any reports of this not working. You do need an active data connection (it looks up the address using an unknown Google server) but otherwise it should just work. Can you try sending a diagnostic report after you are connected to a CDMA site for a bit? Maybe there's an error getting thrown in the background.

-Mike

okay i sent one over.  just for reference, what needs to be enabled in the settings for BSL to display correctly?  i could have missed a setting migrating from my nexus device.

8 hours ago, mikejeep said:

 

Yes, a reboot should fix it. The geocoding service will sometimes just stop working for no reason:

http://www.bluelinepc.com/signalcheck/known-issues/

https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/36956130

-Mike
 

 

BSL has not worked on my essential phone...ever.

3 hours ago, centermedic said:

It looks like they tried some trading off on RF reception on this phone.

Honestly I do not think they did that intentionally.  It appears they have no clue how to deal with the radio, hence why they finally posted a position for someone to come on board and do modem / radio work several months ago when complaints started piling up.  I have visions of them just throwing the radio in and calling it good without any tweaks what so ever because nobody had any idea what they were doing.

Some have theorized that the radio power levels are simply set to low and need to be adjusted.  I do not really know but i am really starting to hate this device (not as much as the bolt but close).

1 hour ago, greenbastard said:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/att-and-comcast-win-lawsuit-they-filed-to-stall-google-fiber-in-nashville/

 

But let's keep blaming local government, ja??

I do not think that is a very good case to use to try and make your argument though.  The one touch rule was ruled illegal and two, the rule was stupid to begin with.  With how advanced fiber and cable networks are these days, who is going to just roll over and allow an outside company touch their network?

No doubt, the true intention of taking this court was to slow down deployment of google fiber but they had a solid argument here and at the end of the day, it is just business as usual.  Take up your competitors time and money and hope they go away.

16 hours ago, kg4icg said:

For the life of me I can't figure out how people were thinking net neutrality was going to solve a municipality granting exclusive rights to a single isp instead of having a open market. Sorry but that's the fault of your local governments.

Can you share which municipalities grant exclusive rights to an ISP?  If you are referring to cable companies, franchise agreements have nothing to do with internet or even the cable companies digital phone product.  They strictly deal with nothing more than providing basic cable to the towns population.  These days (as has been the case for years), there is no profit on basic cable services so any cable company building out an area will offer these enhanced services (internet, phone, home alarmss, etc) in addition to basic cable so they can make a return but again, franchise agreements do not deal with this.

Also, any company is free to come into an area and overbuild if they choose.  They would be stupid to, but they are welcome.  Naturally they have to go through the same permitting process as the others currently there.  Don't confuse current ISPs suing to stop overbuilders (and make to to expensive with just legal) with municipalities not allowing them.  They are two different things.

3 hours ago, Trip said:

When on US Cellular roaming, my G5 was always on SRLTE.  I think that's how it determined whether to roam on LTE or not; if it had 1X on US Cellular, then LTE roaming was permitted.  The moment it picked up Sprint CDMA though, it dropped US Cellular LTE. 

Actually, as far as I can tell, US Cellular is SRLTE across the board.  My US Cellular phone, and my father-in-law's, both always have SRLTE running.

- Trip

While roaming on my 5X, I have seen signal check display being connected to USCC LTE (with no 1x connection) and then when a text comes in or goes to be sent, 1x pops up so it can take care of business and then it goes away.  This does not happen with the Essential.  It literally stays locked on LTE and nothing can be done with it except data (no phone calls, nothing). 

4 hours ago, latoso said:

You are correct, sent a few emails and have not heard from essential.

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I posted the below on the essential subreddit.  Wonder if others on sprint have the same issue?

"It is well noted that the essential has reception / radio problems but today, when I roamed on to US Cellular, it completely abandoned 1x and connected to LTE only. Which is fine when connected to Sprint because the phone can pass text messages over LTE.

I need some technical terms so I can raise an issue with the Essential Phone team.  It is well noted that the essential has reception problems but today, when I roamed on to US Cellular, it completely abandoned 1x and connected to LTE only.  Which is fine when connected to Sprint because the phone can pass text messages over LTE.  Howevever, while roaming, the phone would not send or receive text messages and could not make or receive calls because it was latched to USCC LTE.  My 5X, when it would stay connected to USCC LTE, would somehow get notification of a text or call and idle back over to 1x to take care of things.  Same deal when I would try to send a text as well.  Seems the essential is dead in the water under these conditions.

What may be happening here?  Anything I could mention to essential about how sprint handles this so maybe they could pin the problem down?

4 hours ago, nexgencpu said:

I think you guys should get in contact with folks at essential since they are very receptive to user feedback.

They have hosted multiple AMAs on Reddit.

They arent very receptive to the...reception issues though so I am not sure what to make of that.

1 hour ago, greenbastard said:

Is RF really bad on the essential?

Yes, it really is (maddening to say the least), at least with 1x and EVDO and i am not sure how they can fix it.  i believe its new hardware from qualcomm so no doubt it needs further tweaking but can it be done at this point with these out in the field?

given how quiet they are about it on reddit versus the other problems that they publicly discuss and later fix, maybe the writing is on the wall.

what does the toggle "enhanced 4g lte mode" do for those of us using this on sprint?

4 minutes ago, mc_gusto said:

I kept asking them what the purchasing option would be after the lease was over in 18 months and they both quoted the full price. I just wanna make sure. Maybe they've gotten hip to it. I thought theyd have a lot of calls about it. Maybe I should stop in a store.


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try checking out on the website.  somewhere towards the end it will have a copy of the lease agreement and costs associated, even if you have to do it as a new user it should at least show you the costs.

6 minutes ago, mc_gusto said:

Tried chat and calling. They both won't let me pay full amount of lease up front.

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Whats the rush?  get everything up and running, lease established, etc.  then take care of paying off.