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No disagreement here. Austin has really started to turn around and the drops to 3g are almost zero for me now.

Do you have any details yet for how employee discounts will apply to this new $60 plan or is that information/training tomorrow?

Because AT&T and Verizon are solid networks and T-Mobile is incredibly fast in Metro areas. Sprint, in it's current state, is not quite there yet. It is a raw deal for Sprint considering the huge potential they have but potential doesn't mean much until it is realized.

I was hoping for $50/40/30 personally. Now I don't know what I will do because there are no lower tier options. I am on Ting and using very little data for 2 lines (mostly due to data cost on Ting tbh) but I pay only $50 for 2 lines and I have a 3rd line at AT&T with unlimited. At this point a Framily seems the best option if I was going to get one or both lines back on Sprint but now they are going to stop marketing Framily so I run the risk of getting stuck on a decreasing framily in the future and watching my bills rise. Oh and I updated the pricing Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L4FXkfyfM69LNJ6-vJ0baMZxdSWJ8N8aQNS_vVd5XOM/edit?usp=sharing

Hmm, I guess I will have to see how employer discounts are applied to this.

So it is a bit more than we hoped for. Can anyone tell me why someone would do this instead of hopping on a framily plan for $45 unlimited?

You are correct so I adjusted it again. Honestly the fact that I had to make a spreadsheet says it all really.

So the difficulty there is the listed pricing makes this wonky. If you get a device on Easy Pay you get the line fee waived above 20 GB.. If you get a "Discounted Phone" you pay 40 flat. I generally buy my phones so how much easy pay phones cost is a little beyond my knowledge.

Well, it would be $100 for data, and for 4 lines with subsidy it would add $160 per line for a total of $260. Sounds right to me. Maybe I should add that option to my spreadsheet actually.

Yeah but who honestly joins a Framily plan alone? I meant in comparison to a 7+ person Framily of which there are tons to choose from on /r/sprintframily and other places.

Heh, someone shared my link with a LOT of people. I didn't realize my profile had some public information so I took it down and put it on my junkmail account. Feel free to share it with whoever https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L4FXkfyfM69LNJ6-vJ0baMZxdSWJ8N8aQNS_vVd5XOM/edit?usp=sharing A PM would have been nice though Edit: ahh found it on howardforums. At least he agreed to update the link.

I am interested if the individual plans are employee discountable I guess. If it is $50 unlimited that makes it worse than framily for an individual.

Anyways as far as the plans go... after putting all the numbers in a spreadsheet and really looking at it I currently see this plan as a good start but ultimately falling short. To be honest, I am not sure offering more data will necessarily be disruptive in the marketplace. I would personally rather have a 10 GB plan that undercuts T-Mobile than this plan. Why? Because I simply don't use that much data even over 3 possible lines. Hell, I have 2 lines at Ting and I use under 500 MB/month and the line left is an unlimited data line at AT&T. This plan just feels weird. You have different line fees for different data amounts and then adding in bonus data per line only at certain data buckets just adds to the weirdness. At least just make the stupid line fees the same at all data packages. Honestly I wish they would have just done something similar to framily pricing without all the tiered weirdness. Why can't they just make it super simple for everyone? Make it like Framily where $25/line for 1 GB.. $35/line for 3 GB and $45 for unlimited but take out the clunkyness of having to find Framily IDs online or post yours somewhere and hope people join. Add $25 bucks for a phone subsidy. Hell, even add $5 per line if that is too low. I'd pay that. I get the additional value from this promotion but it feels like a TWC/Comcast/AT&T promotion that lasts a few months and then slams fees into your various orifices. Just check out the pricing https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L4FXkfyfM69LNJ6-vJ0baMZxdSWJ8N8aQNS_vVd5XOM/edit?usp=sharing and compare new vs existing customers. I'm sure people with 4 or 5 lines will really love it when their bill goes up $60 or $75 bucks at the end of 2015. Blegh. Oh and current customers will pay ~$960 more for 4 lines between now and the end of 2015. I mean damn that is nearly 3 Nexus 5 phones!

I feel like this conversation veered away from CEO, Town Halls, or Family Share Pack Plan discussion about 10 pages ago.

Dang. I was hoping for more value out of the lower end plans. Okay, updated the spreadsheet to reflect pricing. Does this look correct to you? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L4FXkfyfM69LNJ6-vJ0baMZxdSWJ8N8aQNS_vVd5XOM/edit?usp=sharing

For clarity: For line fees are they waived at any data level? or just at 20 GB and above? Extra data is only for 20 GB and above plans for both new and existing customers?

For new users AND existing users? If so this plan is dead to me.

BTW is my math wrong or is this plan better than framily for a single line user if they are a new customer? at the 600 MB tier with no line charge you would get 2.6 GB of data for $20? or 2 lines with 4.6 GB for $20? Granted when the waived line charge ends that would go to $45 and $70 respectively Someone correct me if I am misunderstanding my own spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L4FXkfyfM69LNJ6-vJ0baMZxdSWJ8N8aQNS_vVd5XOM/edit?usp=sharing /edit I mean, geez, with my 23% discount as a new customer I could get 6 GB of data over 2 lines for only $19.25?

http://www.sprint.com/landings/datashare/index.html?INTCID=AB:HERO:081814:FamilySharePack According to the main splash page additional data is 1.5 cents per MB

Okay! I updated the spreadsheet to 1) Remove $ per GB because no one cares and it is a pain to calculate 2) Highlight the optimal pricing for existing customers 3) Added a calculation for employee pricing that I would get at Sprint (23%) 4) Turned commenting on https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L4FXkfyfM69LNJ6-vJ0baMZxdSWJ8N8aQNS_vVd5XOM/edit?usp=sharing Also, since I can't figure it out Are the line fees waived for new customers ONLY @ 20GB and above or for all tiers?

So employer discounts to the data portion? and also this: I'm a current Sprint customer. Can I get the 2GB per device bonus data being offered? The 2GB per device bonus data is available only to existing Sprint customers eligible to migrate to thenew Sprint Family Share Pack who select the 20GB monthly data allowance. makes it a pain in the dick to calculate.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XehsVIj6VeE2aL7OjXu8KXei6dKL4QxArWjX7aYJx6k/edit?usp=sharing I made a google spreadsheet for a visualization of this plan and the cost per GB differences per line and also New Vs Existing customers. Let me know if anything appears incorrect.

That comment with your avatar actually did make me laugh

Individual plans better be an improvement on this or I guess I will stay on Ting for now.

I am super excited to hear more details on this. Hopefully I can switch back to Sprint and get my family to consider it as well.