koiulpoi

I keep hearing reports about a "verizon flip-phone that's LTE only", but I have a feeling that's rather unfounded.

Wow! They may have just felt sorry for me but they shipped me 3 new batteries for my Palm Pres with no charge on my Sprint ins.

Yes, there is a limit to the amount of data that can be passed through a given bandwidth at a specific signal to noise ratio. That limit is often called the Shannon bound and can be calculated using the Shannon-Hartley theorem.

 

http://en.wikipedia....Hartley_theorem

 

As an aside, I used a PNG of the Shannon-Hartley theorem as the entry image to two of my engineering focused articles this summer.

 

http://s4gru.com/ind...trength-primer/

http://s4gru.com/ind...3g-data-speeds/

 

AJ

Wireless spectrum (frequency used to transmit) is limited but the amount of data that can be transmitted over that meduim is not...The quality of an overloaded network is another topic. Sorry...but data is not spectrum...they are two different things. Probably should have googled a bit further.

Are you... trying to talk about "Unlimited Data" in a vacuum, unrelated to how Sprint has it? The buffet analogy works because spectrum, backhaul, carrier capacity, and a whole host of other factors effectively limit the speed at which data can be delivered, thus limiting your data. You know, like, at a buffet, if too many people are eating too much too fast, the cooks can't get enough food out for everyone, and some people sit around waiting all day, and then the restaraunt runs out of food and/or goes broke.

Of course, any analogy breaks down if you take it too far...

I hope everyone realizes that the "all you can eat buffet" analogy isn't really the best example.

 

"All you can eat" does not imply unlimited food. Unlimited data on the other hand...

 

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I had to get a battery replacement on the E4GT and best buy's insurance sent me a replacement battery that had about 2/3 the capacity of the original battery. It was some off brand as well.

 

I promptly cancelled the coverage after that debacle, so that is my only experience with Best Buy's insurance.

a LTE

Just to add some fuel to the fire, was discussing LTE with a fellow today, and relaying how we'll probably be getting LTE in the future, he said:

"That's gonna be great. I can't wait for us to get it here so I can finally drop Comcast. Root my phone and tether away!"

He left almost immediately after that.

I really, really hope Sprint has some way of shutting down people who do this, as this isn't the first time I've heard this. To go off an analogy used earlier in the thread... this isn't actually like "going to the buffet and eating all the crab legs and nothing else". It's more like "going to the buffet, eating all the crab legs, stuffing a bunch in your pants, and stealing plates and silverware too". It's doing something you're not supposed to do, and the network can't handle it. Yet, I feel this attitude is more common than one might think...

The other thing I found out, which I didn't know (but should have connected the dots) is that if I want to upgrade now, I can "buy out" my contract by paying the ETF, and then paying the promo price for the phone. Because I got a smartphone before Sep 2011, and I'm at 6 months before the end of my contract, I can actually upgrade for $50. Not sure I want to do this, but maybe there will be some nice sales around Thanksgiving or Christmas.

Also note that this offer is not always available, and the price may go up or down each time you call. So, if you want to do it, I'd jump on it now.

Edit: Unless, of course, you have a non-advanced aka "feature" aka basic device... In which case, I apologize, and my condolences

I'm keeping both for now ... as these are Sprint stores we are going to have to deal with. Hell, one member is having a hard time trying to convince them that the EVO LTE is a LTE capable phone.

But at any rate, that is true; most store reps are paid only marginally above minimum wage, and don't tend to be amazingly knowledgeable. They are, however, still people. If you're friendly, they'll work with you. I recommend pointing them towards this website. They might learn a thing or two. I did.

You know, I've considered posting a thread about giving Sprint reps information about this site, so they can be more informed about NV and LTE; I know it's helped me.

After reading this thread, more and more I'm thinking it might be a good idea.

Yeah the airave seem pretty good at first but after some time you start seeing the cons, for example txt messages will get stuck sending and it will end up sending 10 to 20 of the same mesage.s It starts slowing down your internet quite a lot, to the point where I could barely play online on my PS3. Also something that usually happened is where people would call me and they couldnt hear me so I would have to call them back. Not huge problems but definetly annoying. I ended up unpluging it and havent used it in 2 months.

 

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S III

Although, if you haven't used it, obviously you don't need it

I was planning on dropping my insurance after the rate went up but with the whole EVO LTE connectivity issue going on I decided to keep it. I didn't Sprint to throw their hands up in the air when I go into the store to have the phone swapped 3 times then switch me to a working LTE phone.

 

Now, if I didn't have my phone in an otterbox that would be a different story.

Now, remember folks, Sprint's TEP is NOT insurance. No, really.

There's two parts to it: ESRP and ERP.

ERP (Equipment Replacement Program) is an insurance policy through Asurion, and costs $5/$9 (Tier 1/2 or Tier 3/4). This is what covers physical damage, water damage, as well as lost/stolen coverage. This is what went up recently.

ESRP (Equipment Service and Repair Program) is $4/month. This covers all electrical and mechanical failure to a phone that may result from normal wear and tear, or a manufacturer defect. This is the program you use when Sprint gives you a new phone when your charging port stops working, for example. Or what covers you when your touchscreen goes out and it gets replaced at a store for free. It costs $35 a pop if you don't have this and something goes wrong and you want Sprint to fix it.

TEP is a discounted combination of the two, at $8/$11. You can drop TEP at any time, but note that you can also drop just the ERP or ESRP sections and be left with the other, if you so desire. Also note that you cannot add those services back on except in a few specific cases (one being during an upgrade).

That being said, Sprint does not offer ESRP or ERP for iPhones. That is handled through Applecare+, as has been discussed here.

Do make sure, when purchasing a different insurance/service option that it covers wear and tear and defects. Your phone only has a 1-year warranty, yet you'll probably have it for the entirety of your 20-month upgrade cycle. And Apple isn't cheap when it comes to out-of-warranty defects. I believe it's $99 per incident, but don't quote me on that.

More interesting to me from that article is the fact that Sprint is gonna get the new Tab 10.1 with 4G LTE.

Mostly because we need a good tablet. The Optik is... well... it has worse hardware than the EVO View, and that's saying something, especially compared to the competition. It's not worth the money, imho.

I'm more anxious to get LTE than jelly bean. I have it on my Prime, it fixed many of the lag bugs but it's nothing special, IMO.

 

 

-Luis

For one, I can multitask. Here's hoping HTC fixes that, too.

My pop always pronounces WHY-FY as WIFF-EE which drives me crazy.

No LTE devices are supported by the RF tester in the retail locations. WiMax yes, LTE no. My assumption based on no facts whatsoever is that is because they use the same 1900MHz frequencies.

I have no idea how the RF tester works. Preferred Retailers don't get those around here.

There are other legitimate reasons for rooting/jailbreaking. Enthusiasts who want to get the maximum performance out of hteir devices by over/underclocking the CPU, apps like Titanium Backup for recovery and storage, modifying system files to remove the camera shutter sound, etc.

 

Illegitimate tethering is only one small piece of the pie. Let's not get like Comcast and start blocking/slowing down ALL bittorrent traffic because one use isn't legitimate, or AT&T who just don't care about anything but their bottom line, screw the consumer every time.

What do they do when refreshing the phone? I can't imagine them doing anything that I can't do on my end if my phone is technically working? I have tried all the normal things like updating everything, prl, profile, firmware, software, etc yet the text message issue continues? It also only happens on long text messages that almost reach the limit or characters for 1 message (160). Smaller texts seem to go through almost instantly? I've tried pressing the button to reset my Airave but I'm not sure what else to do. Can Sprint really do something on their end? Thanks.

As well, you might want to take it in to a Sprint Repair Center and have them look at it. There may or may not be an issue with the EVO LTE that would require them to completely reprogram the phone, which involves a hard reset.

The Airrave will work with any CDMA Sprint phone, so I don't think that's that big of a consideration.

If you're sticking in the Smartphone world, you have to pick between the iPhone and anything Android. I recommend Android for a multitude of reasons, and coming from Blackberry, you're gonna be blown away.

I personally have the HTC EVO 4G LTE, and it is a great phone, but it has a few quirks (as many here will tell you). If you want an amazing experience, the Samsung Galaxy S3 comes highly recommended. Haven't yet had one returned to where I work.

No ICS for Motorola Photon! Guess we are getting $100 form Motorola smh. (Or at least sell our)

 

http://www.technobuf...cream-sandwich/

Here's hoping Google starts leveraging their position and forces Moto into making nexus-style phones. Seriously. It would do the world some good.

but now it seems my Airrave needs a reset at least 2x a week

If multipath makes sense, then just know that Rayleigh fading is the result of multipath. It is the reason why signal strength can vary by 5-10 dB over just a few feet, even inches in some cases. And MIMO relies on multipath to some extent to produce a strong signal at one antenna, a weak signal at the other antenna, and vice versa.

 

AJ

Thanks for answering my question, as always.

I threw an iPod touch out the window once, It survived.

Maybe unlimited data is just marketing jargon. "Unlimited data" sounds a lot better than "Tier-less data" when trying to attract subscribers.

*pin pon*

Sprint is banking on most "unlimited" smartphone users not using more than ~2-4 GB of data a month. It is absolutely marketing-based. If everyone used their smartphones to maximum, "unlimited" capacity, the network would buckle and Sprint would be run out of business (which some would say is happening now). Similarly, they can market "no throttling" because they don't - your area simply slows down when too many people are using too much.

To some extent, MIMO relies upon Rayleigh fading. With a highly proximate, direct line of sight to the serving sector antennas, a MIMO connection may not be possible. With current 2x2 downlink MIMO devices, lack of MIMO connection halves potential data rates.

 

 

 

Nope, just the opposite -- the higher the signal to noise ratio, the higher the potential data rates.

 

AJ

1) Can you explain that, or at least give a decent link to information as to where I can start to learn?

2) Will you marry me?