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Reviving this thread for some clarification, I might be flying out to San Francisco later this week and was wondering about the LTE coverage B41 specifically in the city?

 

I tried checking Sprints coverage maps and they really need to change their colors from the one shade of yellow to another where you can't tell the difference?! Whoever made that map needs to be fired and they need to use different colors to clearly differentiate the coverage that sprint provides between bands so they're easily seen.

 

Thanks guys for the responses!

LTE is pretty ubiquitous at this point. However B25 and B26 are often very overloaded. Downtown in the financial district the B41 is mostly from Clearwire sites. Most of the other sites have B41, but increased density is needed to prevent dropping to B25/26. You shouldn't really have a problem using your phone as long as you don't mind it being slow at times, but if you rely on Hangouts for voice calls for example non-B41 is usually too congested for it to work.

 

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Anyone have a copy of the new Sprint Zone apk?

 

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I root for Titanium Backup, and now for earfcn functionality in SCP. I'd never consider not being rooted, I like the flexibility. I don't do custom ROMs though, just stock rooted.

 

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My phone (S7) is able to handle the carriers and as of today, it's a lot more stable while connecting.

Oh really? Can you send a screenshot of the engineering screen showing 39858 as the PCC, SCC or TCC (is that what is shown for the third carrier?)? I think it would be the first evidence of CA being active on the third carrier anywhere.

 

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Is there any other :-)

 

 

 

I noticed that I bounce between 2CA and 3CA and I'm not sure why. At times there is just 1 carrier and it bounces to 2CA. I guess it's still a work in progress.

By 2CA and 3CA I assume you mean the 2nd and 3rd carrier, not carrier aggregation. CA means carrier aggregation. Only the S7 supports 3 carriers aggregated. And currently, the third carrier does not support CA at all. It hasn't been enabled yet.

 

That's likely one reason they haven't rolled it out everywhere in the bay area, though it's live on many sites in San Jose and Sacramento.

 

I'm also assuming you don't have a device that's capable of carrier aggregation, since its very difficult for those devices to connect to the third carrier. They almost immediately get kicked off to the first or second carrier when they try to initiate carrier aggregation. If you do have one that supports CA, then that is news that they fixed the issue.

 

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Assuming you mean B41 3rd carrier?

Yeah, there is one known site in Hayward running the third carrier. Another in Palo Alto. We haven't picked up anything else in the market yet though. They're running 20 MHz below our first carrier (40056), at 39858. Our second carrier is 40254.

 

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Since March 31st I've noticed the WiMax sites here in Pittsburgh (ones that I drive past daily at least) are running 2 carrier B41. It can progress quickly if they want it to.

Really? I didn't know the equipment in Pittsburgh could do a second carrier. Do you have a carrier aggregation capable phone? Just curious if that second carrier is accessible to those devices (third carrier on Sprint gear currently isn't since CA isn't enabled on it yet for some reason, so the device gets kicked off)

 

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It crashes for me when I have the background service disabled and either exit the app (via home, back, or task switcher, but not the in app exit command) or when I try to open preferences. It seems the broadcast receiver for the background service may be getting terminated prematurely.

 

I wiped data and tried again, but the problem persists. If I then manually edit the preferences file to enable the persistent background service (since I can't change it in the app), then it doesn't crash on exit since the service stays running. If I select "exit" from the menu it works correctly. If I then go into preferences and disable the background service, it crashes on app exit again using any method other than "exit" from the overflow menu in the app.

 

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It's under settings.

 

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Under which category? I've looked several times and don't see it. Or maybe it's on and my device just doesn't support it...

 

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Stopped in Bozeman for lunch. Did some mapping on Sensorly and Cellmapper.

 

 

 

I then got excited because SCP said I had B41 after having B25 for about 30 minutes.

 

 

But after checking LTE Engineering, running speed test and realizing the PCI number was the same, it's not B41 after all. But why the different GCI? Strange.

 

 

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How do you get SCP to show the possible CDMA BID line?

 

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Would like to point out that my Nexus 6p has never failed on the upload, sometimes slow but not failed. Another thing I notice is that even though it reports slow upload on speedtest things that require duplex data like voice and video chat perform well, so there's that.

 

Can't only just rely on speed test to judge performance.

I've had the upload issue on B41 with my 6P. Signal of around -110. It's not just a speed test issue because text messages actually fail to send until it hands off to B25/26. I'll have to walk away from a window to force the handoff.

 

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Roaming works great in South Africa. My phone (Nexus 6P) and my partner's S5 both connected right away and we got the text confirming it. Roaming is on Telkom.

 

 

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I bet they replaced this with the listening tour. Marcelo seems to be really taking action in learning the pain points for customers. I would say they're doing a good job so far, considering 3xCA is now active on some sites.

Is it? I haven't seen any evidence of more than 2 carriers on a site yet.

 

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I noticed since the March update there is an LTE Roaming setting in EPST; it may have been there previously but I didn't notice it then. Alas no potential LTE roaming to test around these parts.

 

More generally, so far it does seem to have improved lag and stability.

Same on the 6P regarding performance and stability.

 

I think LTE roaming showed up there on a previous build for the 5X actually. The 6P still doesn't have it for what it's worth.

 

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Nutella?

 

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Another question (and it may be stupid but I think it belongs here), are Pico cells the same as a Small cell?

I think of a pico cell as being something like an airave, which covers a smaller area. But I suppose it could be considered a type of small cell.

 

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I wound up not doing the nTelos research I was supposed to be doing this weekend because, instead, I was digging through a new set of Fairfax County records I discovered by accident on Friday. I found at least four different installations that appear to be small cells, one of which was filed for way back in 2005. All four are designed for AT&T it seems, but at least one of them was shared with Nextel (no clue if it's been converted for Sprint).

 

My question is that in the filings, the four are all referred to as "DAS", but when I looked at them on Google Street View, they looked like what I've seen described with pictures as small cells. I know what a DAS is, but in my head, imagined it as something used indoors as opposed to outdoors. What is the difference between the two; is it strictly logical, is there a physical difference, or are they the same thing by two different names?

 

(I'm also impressed with the size of the deployments. One of them has at least 27 antennas.)

 

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Outdoor DAS installations look a lot like small cells. Here are pictures of a Crown Castle ODAS install in SF that Sprint is on https://goo.gl/photos/T7pV37px7DpmWpFg6. The pictures at the end of the poles with RRUs are not broadcasting a Sprint signal, but the ones without RRUs are. I think the latter are just Verizon "small cells", which were also built by Crown Castle in SF.

 

From Street View images it appears to have been installed in 2011 or 2012 (if memory serves).

 

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Wimax was shut down around 9am this morning. It seems like the network was shutdown in clusters because I wasn't able to connect to WiMax in San Jose since midnight but in Hayward, the network was on air until 9am.

 

RIP

Appears to also be down in Oakland.

 

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Don't really need wifi calling or LTE roaming. Shoot my voice roaming on Verizon doesn't work anymore for some reason on my Nexus 6

 

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Really? Try a profile update and PRL update. Does it just not connect? Or does it connect but calls don't work?

 

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I have seen some changes along I-880 in Union City and Hayward

So you know which sites? I'd love to mark them on the NV 2.0 map. And if you have any SCP logs I'd check those for you as well.

 

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Hangouts video call OR are you talking voice call via Google voice? Reason I ask is "wi-fi calling" was in question, so we were talking about a solution to "wi-fi calling" which only happens on wifi. If you have LTE, wouldn't you just use your phone to make the call?

 

To add, while I can carry on video with voice over all LTE bands here, without issue, as always, our experiences are subject to our local.

Just voice, no video. It was someone who called me on my Google voice number.

 

If you just want Hangouts over wifi but not LTE, you need to use two separate numbers, correct?

 

And yeah, the network may be better where you are. In San Francisco and Oakland if you're not on B41, you're looking at speeds of around 0.2 mbps.

 

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Wi-Fi calling = Gvoice and roaming, whats that?

Eh, Hangouts/Gvoice really struggles on B26 (and in SF Sprint seems to prioritize B26 over B25 for some reason...). Last night for example I had a good signal, but on overloaded B26, which is the norm. The call was garbage, all broken up. I couldn't understand a thing. If it had been a regular call over 1x it would have been fine.

 

Basically, I don't trust Hangouts/Gvoice to work reliably on LTE unless you're on B41.

 

It also makes me wonder how well VoLTE will work whenever it's rolled out... I guess they would do some sort of QoS to try to prevent that from happening on overloaded sectors. But still...

 

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12:12 PM March 1st, WiMAX appears to be dead in HI

 

 

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WiMax still alive in SF. Although it wasn't explicitly listed as being shutdown in this round (or any round), it seemed likely.

 

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I'd assume the majority of the metro and tmo stores are 3rd party. Rather than T-Mobile owned.

 

 

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In SF there is literally a T-Mobile store across the street from a Metro store, in what's now a high rent area, unless they're locked into a long term lease.

 

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Hmm, looks like stock Android added Passpoint support in Marshmallow. http://www.boingo.com/press-releases/boingo-extends-passpoint-access-android-6-0-devices/

 

Has anyone with a Nexus device connected?

 

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