fuunkychicken

Damn it.................

 

LMAO!!!!!!!!!

 

Yeah, I ran as fast as I possibly could, head first, right into that one.

Haha I too thought it would be too big. And it is. But it's awesome nonetheless.

I paid full retail to get this thing and now I'm having second thoughts on returning it.

Compared to the other devices I own (G2, Nexus 5, Moto X), the battery life and build quality is the best. And dat screen...

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Funky,

 

What case do you have if any?

 

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I have an Otterbox commuter and a cheap blue body glove. I ordered a Poetic Invictus case and it should arrive early December. For now I'm rocking this phone naked

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How is it going RFwise with your One Max? I'm eager to hear more of your findings when you have the time.

I wrote my initial impressions post on the One Max thread which includes my thoughts on the Max.

RF seems to be ok. Not stellar like the Nexus 5

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What are initial thoughts on the phone, just played with it in a sprint corp, seems pretty snappy. I'm itching to try the triband in Columbus, Ohio.

 

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I'm enjoying using the One Max quite a bit.

There is a noticeable decrease in RF senstivity compared to the LG G2 and especially the Nexus 5. For me, it isn't a huge deal as I typically am in areas with good Sprint coverage.

The speakers are definitely louder than they are on the HTC One. As for missing Beats Audio, it didn't affect BoomSound/headset jack performance. In my car, I have to turn the volume down compared to my other devices as it provides a lot more power to my auxiliary input.

Screen is amazing. HTC has been using really high quality screens since the HTC One X/Evo LTE and they didn't do anything different with this device.

Battery life is beyond what I expected out of any phone. Yesterday after I got home from work my battery was at 79% and that's after being unplugged for 9 hrs while actually using my device moderately. Sending messages and brief calls and Facebook/Instagram. Noticeably better than the Galaxy Note 3 I had. Your mileage may vary on this one.

Call quality is actually improved compared to the HTC One as well. The audio sounds more clear compared to my G2 as well. Ironically, it is quieter than the G2. Perhaps an update will make it louder, but for now call quality sounds better but at a lower volume.

LTE performance is mediocre. It isn't bad, but it isn't the stellar performer we had come to expect from the Galaxy Note 2 and Nexus 5. When I connect, it doesn't randomly drop or disconnect too early. I think this device ignores LTE signals that are low in favor of having a more stable data connection. My device will typically fall back to eHRPD when the connection reaches around -118 dBm. This is ok with me as I would rather have a solid EV-DO connection over a weak LTE signal anyway. Again your mileage may vary.

The removable "battery cover" is a pain in the rear to put back on properly. You have to ensure that battery cover switch is exactly where it is when the cover is removed. If it isn't then the cover isn't on correctly, and if you're OCD like me you'll notice it won't sit flush with the rest of the phone. I installed my 64GB SanDisk and it is performing as expected.

During use the phone stays surprisingly cool. I watched 2 shows back to back (streaming over WiFi while plugged in) and it barely got warmer than body temperature. I do have a thin case on as well, perhaps an Otter Box would create more heat. For now, I am pleased with the way this device manages how warm it gets.

No random rebooting or freezing has been observed yet. It seems pretty stable. The little multitasking quirks of late HTC devices are still present. When going in and out of apps it will sometimes "forget" where you are and restart the app, for example. Not a biggie for me as I'm always removing recent apps from the multitasking window anyway.

In conclusion I would recommend this device to someone who either has really large hands or to someone willing to deal with the extremely large size. This is definitely a 2 handed device. Things like texting require 2 hands, Swype or not. It is very hefty as well. I appreciate its solid and dense feel, but holding the device for extended periods of time can get tiring. Size aside, it's much like the HTC One. Just tri band and a negligably different version of Sense.

Am I going to keep it? We shall see. So far I'm very satisfied with this device.

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Any charger that supports 2.1 amps or more should do the trick pretty well.

I noticed this today on my One Max...

I have a 2.1 amp Y charger I use in my car. In one USB port I have a Beats Audio branded micro USB cable. In the other is a Motorola micro USB cable.

Even with reversing where the cables plug into, the Beats cable would always show "slow charging" on my phone. As a result, while using nav, my battery would drain while plugged in.

The Motorola cable doesn't cause my phone to slow charge and it will actually provide enough juice to charge to 100% while using nav.

Food for thought.

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Were they parked on the same channels? same sectors for EVDO? I'd do a bit of spacing between the devices in your testing but of course that doesn't work out for your pictures.

I don't know to be honest. I waited for all the values in Signal Check to match, however they very well could have been on different channels. I'll try again making sure they're all the same

Btw my dad was using your ROM on the GNote2 before he upgraded to the Note3 lol

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I understand neither of these phones are the LG G2, but here's a quickie of the One Max and Moto X. The G2 isn't active and the Nexus 5 wouldn't hop on the same tower. More to come.

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I don't have the One Max but wasn't impressed with it when I got to use it in the Sprint store today. It was on par with my One holding a -100 to -105 signal but having the Nexus 5 right next to me holding a -90 signal has got my ready to pull the trigger and buy a nexus 5 online. Of course my brief couple of minutes testing connectivity doesn't really amount to much but thought it was note worthy with its comparison to my One and Nexus 5.

 

The One Max is a big phone but wasn't as heavy as I thought it would be.

Definitely a noticeable decrease in signal strength. Enough to warrant a return? That's yet to be seen.

So far, compared to the G2, the screen quality is about on par. I've noticed the colors pop more on the G2, but that's a trade off I'd be willing to make.

The LG rep came into my store today and mentioned the Kit Kat update is 10 to 14 days away. Take that as you will.

I'll continue my testing as I've only owned this device for a few hrs.

Initial impressions are good. I've always been a fan of HTC and their UI. RF performance isn't as important to me as it used to be.

To be continued...

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I would love to see your comparisons.

EVDO/1X seems to be on par with the G2 if not a few dBm worse.

Haven't had a chance to do LTE comparisons yet.

I'll keep you guys posted!

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I know this is the G2 thread, but I just picked up a One Max and will be doing RF comparisons against the G2 and Nexus 5!

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Picked up B41 at work. Let's just say I was very impressed with how fast it is.

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Thank you for your prompt reply. Now I don't feel I have a defective unit on my hands!

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Nexus 5 vs LG G2 at the same spot in my room.

 

 

Conclusion: Nexus 5 is the best RF performer of the whole Sprint line up.

I wouldn't mind seeing a comparison of your Nexus 5 and G2 while on LTE. I keep hearing reports of the G2 being only a few dBm apart, but in practice my G2 is almost always 10 dBm worse on 4G.

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1-3 dBm on 3G 1x / Evdo. ~2 dBm on LTE B25.

Interesting. My G2 is usually about 10 or so db lower than my Nexus side by side.

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Took a trip and noticed I was stuck on 3G and erratic serivice with my lg g2 in Tulsa and Wichita this POS is going back, I can't believe they neutered the g2. Places were I was able to pick up 4g with my note2 around home I'm now getting 3G. The camera is slow /laggy in low light shots practically unusable.. Now you can't do voice and data while in a conversation is just a deal breaker, what a downgrade.. Is there a list of rf performance on current sprint phones?

Nobody "neutered" the G2. And this device most certainly isn't a POS, either.

The connectivity issues you're experiencing is likely what has been discussed in this entire thread.

This is a symptom of either LG Tri Band devices or all of them and the issue is known within Sprint and a fix is in the works.

As far as slow cameras in low light, that's typically how most phones behave as the Contrast Detection auto focus mechanism in all cell phones don't work well in those situations. Low light makes the camera focus slowly so the sensor can recognize what's in focus.

On the contrary my low light shots are very usable on my G2.

Voice and Data while on a call is going to be gone on all future handsets that Sprint releases unless you stick with the Single band devices.

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Samsung, Nokia, and Alcatel-Lucent actually. NSN will probably take over Ericsson land.

I stand corrected. Reading that article that was linked a few pages back made it seem NSN was doing all the heavy lifting for Spark.

Then again it was on their own page, which explains that.

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So Nokia is building our new Sprint Spark backbone.

Rest assured that through any natural disaster and/or armageddon we will always have TD-LTE at our side.

PS

I wonder, what with the 4G LTE revolution we are living in, when will we make the transition from backhaul to fronthaul... or the cheaper alternative... U-haul

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The Lakewood/Tacoma area is getting lots of love.

I noticed my Nexus 5 and LG G2 is on 4G LTE in more and more places. Especially near the Lakewood Town Center and along much of So. Tacoma Way

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Wow big leap in 3G accepted sites in my market (West Washington) since the last time I checked the maps.

My personal experience coincides with what the internal document I posted in the Nexus 5 forum states.

On both my Nexus 5 and LG G2, LTE disappears once I am north of where the 3G/4G sites end and the 4G only sites begin.

This isn't scientific, but is hard to ignore.

I feel confident that the issue is related to non-incumbent markets with spotty 3G acceptance sites.

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I wasn't hoping to start a Sprint flame war.

I'm sure there's reasons for everything. As a multi billion dollar company, they wouldn't purposefully do something like this because they didn't see it coming. The benefits has to outweigh the short term cons.

I understand some of you feel let down, but at least we somewhat got this issue figured out while we are all still well within our 14 day return policy.

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If the NV upgrades are to blame then why do some users report LTE spontaneously flipping on after 2-3 days of owning the phone? Mine was one that did it. All towers in my area use Samsung equipment. LTE spontaneously started working for me after 3days. LTE has been live in my area for weeks and I had no issues with the GN3. I still think we're missing something. The towers in my area didn't magically get an NV upgrade over night.

Its possible that 3G was accepted in a matter of days on the tower that you typically connect to. As unlikely as that sounds, anything really is possible

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... Just in time for me to likely return my triband N5, lol.It will be helpful to have a separate thread, and I'm glad you all pinpointed the issue at least. Hopefully at least you guys can do a blog post and bring some light on the subject for others, maybe even issue a notice to all Sprint front line employees, lol! Sent from my Nexus 5

As a Sprint front line employee I will do my best to spread the word.

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Sorry for the long post. Upon further research into the 4GLTE connection problems I stumbled upon this article in the internal device support forums:

eCSFB Gap Talking Points

Sprint’s Network Vision Plan (Spectrum)

 Sprint’s Network Vision plan includes access to three spectrum bands, (1.9, 800 and 2.5), and LTE handsets with a single radio.

 Access to diverse spectrum assets allows Sprint to maximize capacity and coverage.

Current Sprint LTE Devices (2 Radios)

 Current Sprint LTE devices are Simultaneous Voice and LTE (SVLTE)—using two radios, one for voice and one for LTE data. This allows CDMA calls and LTE to operate at the same time.

 Dual Radio SVLTE devices can degrade the user’s quality of experience – two antennas may slow throughput at the cell edge and reduce battery life.

Future Sprint LTE Devices (1 Radio)

 CSFB and eCSFB (Circuit Switch Fall Back and enhanced Circuit Switch Fall Back) are features that enable single radio functionality in the handset.

o eCSFB Benefits:

§ With eCSFB implementation, Sprint will be able to offer fast LTE data speeds and 3G voice supported on single radio devices. This provides a more cost effective option for Sprint’s long-term business plans to support additional spectrum bands.

§ eCSFB is expected to improve handset battery life compared to SVLTE.

eCSFB Gap Issue – What you Need to know:

 Smart devices require eCSFB to “fall back” to 3G to accept a voice call if the user is connected to the LTE network.

 All markets need to be upgraded with eCSFB capability.

 eCSFB Gaps are only in non-incumbent markets where a site has 4G LTE and no 3G upgrade.

4G LTE integration with 3G is different by OEM type:

 Incumbent markets – LTE 4G only sites can communicate with either legacy 3G or NV 3G sites.

 Non-Incumbent – LTE 4G can only communicate with NV 3G sites; so individual sites need both NV upgrades.

LTE devices – Customer Experience

 When 4G LTE is deployed in a non-incumbent market on sites without upgrade to 3G service, there is a gap.

o Existing Devices – No Impact

o eCSFB Devices – Phone becomes 3G only device

Non-Launched Markets

 No coverage visible on Sprint.com maps but different experience for users with existing devices versus new eCSFB devices.

Launched Markets

 Sprint coverage tools will display LTE coverage. For new LTE smart device users this could be confusing since they would expect LTE and 3G coverage with the device they purchased, but would not experience LTE until the 3G network is upgraded.

Mitigation plan:

New LTE Markets

 When locking new LTE markets for announcement/ launch, eCSFB deployment status will be a factor in the analysis. New LTE markets will not be announced unless the eCSFB gap risk is low.

 Complete the build quickly in eCSFB gap impacted markets.

Acronyms

 CSFB – Circuit Switch Fall Back. It allows for single radio devices. (ERC)

 eCSFB – Enhanced Circuit Switch Fall Back Next generation CSFB. (ALU, STA)

 SVLTE – Simultaneous Voice & LTE. Allows CDMA calls and LTE to operate simultaneously

 Incumbent – An incumbent market is one in which the OEM stays the same as before Network Vision

 Non-incumbent – A market in which the OEM changes as well as all of the equipment.

 ERC - Ericsson

 ALU – Alcatel Lucent

 STA - Samsung

 NV – Network Vision

 OEM – Original Equipment Manufacturer (ERC, ALU, STA)

 Gap – 4G LTE on sites without appropriate upgrades to 3G service

 1.9 GHz Spectrum - Provides initial capacity and coverage for voice and data services.

 800 MHz Spectrum - Improves coverage and in-building penetration for all services.

 2.5 GHz Spectrum - Increases data capacity to support higher data demands and more users

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Few things I've noticed with the G2 and Nexus 5

The screen on the G2 is gorgeous.

The LTE performance on the Nexus seems better.

G2 is really slippery to hold. The Nexus 5 is really grippy.

Battery life is better on the G2 as expected.

The Nexus 5 still has the best value and I can't wait until these LTE woes are solved.

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Interesting. I'd like to see a few more reports, but it seems to narrow it to either a LG issue or Tri Band. I'm inclined to lean towards the latter until proven otherwise.

I almost want to say it's Tri Band. The Samsung Galaxy Mega on display at work wasn't connected while the Note 3 next to it was. Could just be coincidental but definitely isn't a scientific conclusion. I'll do more testing at work.

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