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On Easy Pay and Lease Program I understand there's no down payment and a small additional monthly fee however doesn't the consumer have to pay taxes on the retail price of the device upfront sorta like a closing cost of a transaction.

 

At least that's what I understood, is this true or not.

Easy pay you pay taxes upfront. Lease you pay taxes monthly...so if you don't finish the lease (i.e. turn in device for an upgrade), you don't pay the full tax on the item.

 

Nicki Palmer, Verizon's Chief Network Officer, takes a nice shot at T-Mobile and Legere here.

 

 

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Verizon has definitely been more vocal about being the best lately.

Yes. Most adults still make calls with their phone.

I'm 30...married with two kids. I think that makes me an adult. Some may question that though...lol

 

I average around 20 minutes a month...sometimes it'll spike to 100 or so, but I really hate talking on the phone. If you need me, email me or send a text. Otherwise, I'll let voicemail take care of it [emoji57]

 

 

 

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What's important is that your wife can still send texts and make calls, which is far more important than checking her Instagram on the street at the fastest pace possible.

 

In one year she can do that in comfort ????

People make calls with their phone still? It's all about the data now! But yeah...1Mbps is plenty fast for most tasks, even streaming music.

 

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Per Marcelo on Twitter: "@marceloclaure: @HRozewski long Term Customers can choose any way they want to buy a phone, lease,subsidy or installment billing. We believe in choice"

 

Looks like us contract folks are grandfathered!

 

All hail Marcelo!

He didn't say contracts as an option...?

 

Edit: never mind...I cant read.

Maybe they are counting cell spot routers? lol

That is true. I think the frustration some of us express is due to the T-Mobile fanboys acting like their network is the greatest thing since sliced bread. The reality is that both of the smaller networks still have a lot to improve. The duopoly still makes virtually all of the profit in this industry. I would love to have a cease fire between the Sprint and T-Mobile sides but as long as Legere leads the Magentans on their current path it cannot be. That's on him!

 

Legere sees consolidation of the two as inevitable and wants to be the one standing on top of the mountain, even if he has to share that mountain with Masa or Marcelo.

 

 

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Agree 100% on that. Marcelo is guilty of starting it on Twitter too now though. But the pink trolls are much more annoying than the yellow trolls (which are small in numbers).

 

Plus Verizon is still on another level than Sprint and T-Mobile.

 

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I don't think T-Mobile is in the dire situation some of you are putting them in. The reality is...T-Mobile is a viable and very solid option for many people on both coasts...maybe not in between...lol

 

I recently switched some of my lines over to T-Mobile, and my experience has been excellent in Maryland. Just because T-Mobile is behind Sprint, doesn't mean T-Mobile is collapsing. Competition is good for consumers.

How so? SAMOLED basically is never an accurate display.

 

AJ

The Super in "Super AMOLED" has nothing to do with the display itself, just the layering for the touch screen being part of it. My personal preference is AMOLED over IPS, but I can see how some would like IPS.

 

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So are there any in actual use? I really am curious.

 

This was a quote from Legere back in July...not sure of any other details.

 

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I wasn't aware of any small cell deployment plan for T-Mobile, is that new?

 

Fairly recent...last couple months. I haven't seen it written anywhere really, but Legere mentions it every so often.

I wasn't sure if it was enabled by default, read somewhere that not all of their calls are on VoLTE.

 

If you don't disable it, and you are connected to LTE, the call is routed over VoLTE. It is an IP based call...connect time is insanely fast, otherwise not much difference for a user.

A point to clarify for T-Mobile, B12 is LTE only, so unless they are testing VoLTE only, the call metrics will not improve significantly. 

 

Correct...but VoLTE is on by default, and I don't know why Root Metrics would want to turn it off for their tests?

But what do we make of urban focused T-Mobile when they complete their rural upgrade project to put PCS LTE on the EDGE sites out in the boonies? Where would that put them when everything is said and done?

 

That remains to be seen.

Part of me is fine with the situation if T-Mobile always lacks in obtaining low band spectrum.  If we are going to maintain four nationwide networks, we may need to have a "loser" network.  That may be just the natural, competitive order of things.  Magentans and tech press have been happy to paint or even revel in Sprint as the "loser" network.  And I think many of you have been happy to take advantage of sweetheart deals and perks as Sprint has struggled.  Personally, I would not mind if the script gets flipped -- as the RootMetrics national results seem to indicate -- and T-Mobile goes back to being the "loser" network.  It may be a necessity in the domestic wireless environment that we have created.

 

AJ

 

 

This actually may not be a bad thing. If T-Mobile can keep and maintain their strong urban presence, it will still be a viable option for millions and millions of customers, and a profitable business. It definitely won't work for everyone. Whereas with Sprint, they actually stand a good chance of competing with the big boys on a nationwide level, and for those customers that are content paying for Verizon level service.

 

I live on the east coast, but in a more rural area between dense urban areas. So my options will likely remain plentiful for years to come!

Call in the burn unit....Marcelo going full scale Legere on Twitter....LOL

The writing was on the wall over 2 years ago. It's about time.

Another thing that will help Sprint's image moving forward...they have great calling reliability now. But how many people use many voice minutes these days? Having great voice coverage is important (and expected honestly)...but once Sprint starts showing data reliability and impressive speed numbers....I think that will be the turning point for them.

 

Edit: Including this link...

 

http://newsroom.sprint.com/blogs/sprint-perspectives/blog-closing-the-gap-on-network-performance.htm

I am anxious to see the results once RootMetrics gets a device capable of 2xCA, and a band 12 device on T-Mobile. Sprint should finally show some better speed results, and T-Mobile will get a much needed boost in calling reliability (at least in band 12 markets) and data speeds will improve with CA (band 4/12) as well.

 

These numbers are pretty impressive for Sprint and T-Mobile...considering where they were 2 years ago. And it also highlights the importance of nationwide low band spectrum for T-Mobile. I'd argue that Sprint could use it too, for coverage vice capacity.

A month or so ago...Marcelo was bragging on Twitter to Legere that Sprint proudly offered many ways to buy a device...on contract, easy pay, or leasing. I guess things have changed.

 

Me personally? I'm glad to do away with contracts.

 

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iPhone's badly need some downward pressure on prices....Samsung devices sell for premium price tags for 2 months, then they drop. You will still pay the launch price for an iPhone 6 right now.

Who is offering $200 off note 5?

 

Sprint is offering $200 for any trade-in

We are definitely seeing downward pressure on the cost to use a device (leasing in this case). I think it's great to see these costs come down. I think eventually Apple will finally be forced to reduce the cost of a new iPhone. Android phones have their own force to push prices downward, with the great lower cost devices coming out (Motorola devices, OnePlus, etc).

 

I like the options though. If you want every iPhone....paying $22/month is pretty reasonable. Never having to shell out $199 for the contract price, not being locked in for 2 years, etc.

I've had my main line on T-Mobile for over a month now. Being in a Band 12 market means I have LTE pretty much everywhere. This is something T-Mobile is beating Sprint big time. They are adding Band 12 sites in places that matter, I can't say that about Sprint's band 26 deployment. And T-Mobile's band 12 seems to enhance coverage significantly, while band 26 helps building penetration, but not overall coverage (at least when not optimized). I've found one area with congested towers (0.5Mbps down, but 10Mbps uploads), otherwise my experience on T-Mobile is pretty consistent around central Maryland, with speeds above 10Mbps.

 

I imagine the experience is much worse in markets without band 12 though. So I understand the big need T-Mobile has for low band spectrum.

As a former manager of a Preferred Retailer I have to agree. Happy customers are repeat customers. I went out of my way to make it the best experience for my customers. Saying all Sprint stores suck is about as accurate as saying the Sprint network sucks. Broad statements are generally not accurate.

 

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Should have said my local stores. Closest are two resellers and a corp store. All three are awful. I'm sure there are decent ones around, but when I was recruiting family members for Framily back when it was starting...not one of them joined based on their experience in other Sprint stores around central Maryland. Literally not one out of several people.

 

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