PedroDaGr8

On 6/7/2019 at 1:47 PM, RAvirani said:

Found another M-MIMO site: SE03XC055. We might need to setup a map/spreadsheet to start logging these soon. 

How do these show up in Signal Check? Can you tell that a site is MMIMO? Where is this site located?

Also, I just hit over 200MBps from SE03XC157. Things are flowing very smoothly in this part of Woodinville. 

On 6/11/2019 at 11:38 AM, lilotimz said:

It's considered a macro site FWIW. Looks like heavy site design restrictions for that area! 

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Yeah, it is between two schools and adjacent to a winery district, I think that explains any restrictions. That being said, there are several B25/B26/B41 towers nearby, this tower just falls in a shadow area for these deployments.

That being said, armed with this knowledge I found out a second set of Nokia Mini-Macros at a nearby hospital (eNBs B6BD7, B6BD9, and B6BDB). Oddly enough, these were in an area I thought was covered by another local site but that site didn't have B41. Additionally, they are building a massive shopping complex right by the hospital so these should cover that area pretty well. 

Does any other provider use these Nokia Mini-Macros?

22 minutes ago, lilotimz said:

 

That is correct. Those are 3 mini macros feeding old clearwire sector antennas with the old Clearwire cabinet. 

Inside the clear cabinet it's pretty much just power and a cisco router / switch. 

Thanks, that cleared up a lot of confusion for me. This location is in a geographic shadow with respect to a major site, so it makes sense that they would use a small setup like this here.

On 2/17/2017 at 11:59 AM, lilotimz said:

Oh. If it's a regular site colocation with macro site then yeah it'll have different GCI but same EARFCN as the macro network.. Each mini macro is considered its own eNB and as such must each by identified individually.

 

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This might explain something that I have been seeing. Apologies that the images are from Google Maps but the poles are right in front of an Elementary School which is across the street from a Middle School. As a dude, definitely not stopping the car to take my own pictures in this case. Here is the base of the pole I believe to be a sprint pole:


Anyways, there are what appears to be two or three of these Nokia Mini Macro's.

There are three antenna on top of the pole and there are three eNB that I have been seeing in this area. 

There is also this tiny equipment cabinet next to the pole. 

There is a second tower (shown above) about 100 ft away, but if the original tower is responsible for all of the eNB that I have seen, then this second tower must not be a Sprint tower. Am I correct in presuming that the third eNB is likely from the same pole and not this second pole?

26 minutes ago, RAvirani said:

Which site in Woodinville? Are you referring to the one by the town center (by the AMC, Target, etc)?

Yes, all of the towers along Avondale are triband-enabled barring one Clear site. Backhaul has also been upgraded on all of those sites. 

There is a new site in planning on Avondale between NE 116th Street and NE Novelty Hill Road. Fingers crossed that site gets built!

The one over off NE N Woodinville Way right next to Metier Brewing (the CDMA location says 14125 NE 189th St, Woodinville). I believe the tower is triband based on the logs (I see B25, B26, and B41 from it) though usually I am on B41. 

800MHz LTE is really ideal for that area based on the relative low-density of the area. 

They did some upgrades to at least one of the towers in Woodinville and my d/l speed just clocked in at 186Mbps. Additionally, I am seeing a good amount of B26 LTE out off Avondale Rd. 

Wow the one on I-5 Gilman drive is having issues. Last weekend when it was running I got 23-24Mbps down and 6-8Mbps up. Went by today, had a ping of 1950ms IIRC and 178kbps down and 0 up (this is on full bars of 4G). I noticed when driving along it seems like there are two NV panels up at this point with slots for 6 more.

I love this map, being a Sensorly user who has mapped a small amount of the 3G coverage in my area I like the above map. It lets me know the rest of the areas near me that I can map. Specifically, it appears the park I was just at yesterday isn't really mapped. I will go back there and map it once they open up the ball fields again.

Those ridged antenna are likely AT&T as that's what they are installing at a new site near me.

s4gru - can you update my first post to denote my post that shows they are conclusively AT&T. So that no one is misled?

Well now that we know this is an AT&T panel. It looks like in two of these situatins the RRU's with the curved top maybe indicative of AT&T?

You can clearly see them in doug's image and they are the exact same as the ones on the lightpole in my image (though its harder to tell in mine)

Although the markers can be off a little, but it appears that it's near the baseball diamond at the SW side of the park.

 

Robert

Sure enough I found Sprints install. It's surprisingly puny. The light posts its on are so small they couldn't even fit all three antenna on one pole. Two are on B in the link below and one is on A. If Sprint plans on upgrading these to NV there is going to be a LOT of work involved. Comapared to the new installation these light posts are like tooth picks (2/3 the height and likely 1/4 the diameter).

The sprint service hut which I SWEAR looks like it used to be the public bathrooms for the park (the new ones are in the large community center and another set on the SE side of the park. There are two bricked up doors and windows on the front. You can kinda of see them but not well because I had the exposure set too high on my phone.

Compare the sizes (realizing the far ones are two softball fields away) th nearest tower is the same size as the sprint ones.

Exact locations of the sprint towers:

Link

Nice friendly image taken from below the tower.

That being said, the aforementioned install is now confirmable as AT&T. When I went to find the Sprint spot, I decided to check out the new install again. On the second time there, I noticed signs on the posts. I don't remember them being there before (workers were there so its possible the signs were just installed but its possible I'm just blind). Anyways, the signs clearly state AT&T Mobile installation. So unless sprint plans on doing a shared installation I have huge doubts the Doyle Park area is going to get renovated.

I was just checking in the site database, and Sprint already has a site at that park on the south side. It is a stealth site, probably mounted to a light pole too. It went live on August 20, 2007. It will likely be converted right where it is. The new site you have found on the north side is likely AT&T.

 

Robert

Thanks, I'll try and see if I can scout out that tower after tha rain stops. Maybe take some pics of it as well for future reference. It's odd because AT&T already is known for having great coverage in this area. According to Sensorly, both sprint and AT&T get 4-5 bars in this area.

Can you tell me if the tower is at the SE or SW side of the park? I understand if you want to keep that level of detail hidden.

Yes, but that is for legacy panels. This would be a brand new site with all NV gear. A brand new NV only site would all have panels the same height.

 

Robert

I apologize if the paralax error (and my phones annoying lens) distorts things but all of the panels at this site appear to be the same size.

I cannot say with 100% certainty. It may be. I've never seen an AT&T site with so many RRU's before. However, I never recall seeing a Sprint Alcatel Lucent NV site with panels with an indent along the sides running the length of the panel. That's new to me. Where exactly is this site?

 

Robert

Doyle Park Softball Field in the UTC district of San Diego, CA

I used google maps to plot roughly where they are located.

Link

A is the right tower and B is the left tower.

I do know that Sprint is underspeced in this area. Sometimes even with 5 bars of signal I only get d/l speeds of 0.5M/sec or less. Oddly often u/l is equal or higher than the d/l speed.

EDIT: This site was determined to be an AT&T site further down in the thread.

There is a new tower being installed near my place. Unfortunately, there are NO carrier markings on any of the equipment. The shack is still being built down in the parking lot. Can anyone tell anything from the attached photos.

You can see two separate towers for the install. Mind you this is around a softball field oddly enough and this field never had lights before these towers were installed.

This is the tower on the right. Only two wires to each of these panels (basically one side connected) but that being said this tower does not appear to be complete as the lower "rung" is not populated with RUUs.

This is the left tower, it appear that there are two RUU's per panel. Note that one antena does not appear to be hooked up yet. That the other antenna has all four wires connected.

I apologize for the suboptimal quality of the pics, these were taken with my phone. Plus I had to shrink them to fit them in this post. I have more pics of each tower if needed as well as the fullsize images that I can rehost elsewhere.